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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:37:00 -
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ban them in NPC corps?
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Serpensis
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Serpensis on 19/12/2005 22:44:33
That would be clever to do, but, I have to agree that the NPC has its advantages too. A lot of kiddies/morons/pirates wardecs random corps for fun, and for pro miners, that is no fun.
Its wrong to use barges to macromine, but not everyone in a NPC is a macrominer. Its to protect themselves, but it seems that players in NPC are now all legitimate targets regardless.
EDIT: Besides, I think that would ruin a part of the experience for a lot of players, not everyone is into this "corp culture", and like to soloplay. And taking away barges from them, just because they dont like any of the corps out there, is just plain wrong imho.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:44:00 -
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That, and if you left a corp while flying a barge, you'd get around it.
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:45:00 -
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I may not mine but I know plenty of people who do...so no.
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Nysile Verazi
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:45:00 -
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Why not ban them unless you're in a certain list of confirmed corps that are legit?
Where does it end? See the point?
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Yllse
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:55:00 -
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How about this: You can't use assault ships while in an NPC corp. OK with you?
Now you're in a player corp and happy as pie with your HAC then management of the corp changes, the corp rules somehow become untenable for you and you leave the corp and get popped into an NPC corp. Now you can't use your HAC (or whatever other ship you might equate to a barge). Still OK with you?
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Arhab
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:05:00 -
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We could start by no allowing barges to the people with the following names:
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: dantes inferno on 19/12/2005 23:06:29
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How about this: You can't use assault ships while in an NPC corp. OK with you?
Now you're in a player corp and happy as pie with your HAC then management of the corp changes, the corp rules somehow become untenable for you and you leave the corp and get popped into an NPC corp. Now you can't use your HAC (or whatever other ship you might equate to a barge). Still OK with you?
perfectly fine with me, ill join a new corp or start my own. I personaly think no one over a month should be allowed in a noob corp. their abusing game mechanics to avoid part of EVE, the point of War decs is that no part of space should be 100% safe....noob corps allows u to doge part of that and allows scammer/corp theives/macro miners etc to operate with impunity.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:37:00 -
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Just to annoy them.....
Put on one of those macro blocker HTML bits when you make a new character.
"Please type the following letters in the weird distorted picture that looks like some odd eye test."
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Yllse
How about this: You can't use assault ships while in an NPC corp. OK with you?
Now you're in a player corp and happy as pie with your HAC then management of the corp changes, the corp rules somehow become untenable for you and you leave the corp and get popped into an NPC corp. Now you can't use your HAC (or whatever other ship you might equate to a barge). Still OK with you?
make a one man corp. all you need is level 1 of a rank 1 skill and some amount of isk that should be trivial to anyone with a barge or T2 ship. no one will wardec you unless you've done something like macro mining or massive amounts of griefing.
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:56:00 -
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perfectly fine with me, ill join a new corp or start my own. I personaly think no one over a month should be allowed in a noob corp. their abusing game mechanics to avoid part of EVE, the point of War decs is that no part of space should be 100% safe....noob corps allows u to doge part of that and allows scammer/corp theives/macro miners etc to operate with impunity.
The implication that all the good folks in my noobcorp are Scammers, Corp Theives and macro miners is really insulting.
PTS is a great starter corp. Some folks just want to tiddle around in EVE trying to do this and that, giving advice to new players as they pass through, helping them figure things out...and trying a few things without having to worry about some random stranger nuking me.
Yes, being in a noob or npc corp is one way of avoiding corp wars. It's the only shred of consent people have available to give or not give to the PVP aspect of the game and in my opinion, it should remain an option.
Taking barges, escrow and things away from trial accounts was to keep people from basically playing EVE for long periods for free. I however, pay the same as anyone else to play EVE, and if I decide not to ever leave PTS, then that should be no nevermind to you.
Noobcorp/npc corp can't built POS, can't step into 0.0 without instapod (since of course we are all spy alts) there are a number of parts of the game we give up in exchange for a little peace and quiet in a low-pressure congenial atmosphere.
Until your money is greener than mine, I'll play my way, thanks. 
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Waldo Barnstormer
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:01:00 -
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the only way to stop macro-miners that I can think of now is have some kind of interaction required to mine. set a random timer between 1-10 mins and have an 'enter 3 digits displayed' if you dont, then the lasers switch themselves off.
REALLY annoying for real miners though :\
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Fashion Bug
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:03:00 -
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Gretchen Dawntreader I will add you to my hit list...free of charge!
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:18:00 -
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Fashion Bug...not in the face! Not in the face!!
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halic
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:46:00 -
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Gretchen Dawntreader: i agree with you. it should be like that in every starter school, i know i and a few ppl use to do similar things in our starter it does help alot of new players out and helps the whole community.
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Aargh
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:03:00 -
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Just up NPC Corp tax to %50.
Job done.
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Kim Chee
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:04:00 -
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Sorry, no.
I'm in an NPC corp, because I haven't yet felt the need to find a player corp that I'd like to work with. If you're telling me I can't own my own mining barge, you'd better refund all the time I've put into the prerequisite skills!
Limiting the trial accounts is fine, limiting what paying customers can do when is not.
Right now, I like the idea of being a solo miner. At some point, I'll want to be part of something bigger... but unless you start paying my subscription fee, *I* would like to decide when that happens.
Thanks.
Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion.
Kerr Avon: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
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Alias11
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:07:00 -
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why ban them from npc corps all the macro miners have to do is make a corp, or join 1 blaa blaa
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Skelum
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:13:00 -
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How bout you just get taxed heavily when mining in an NPC corp.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11
why ban them from npc corps all the macro miners have to do is make a corp, or join 1 blaa blaa
if macro miners are forced to join player corps then we can wardec them and not have to **** around with can flags and cloaking devices
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Gaius Sejanus
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:28:00 -
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How about leaving the newbie corps alone instead of looking for new and ever-more-jerkish ways to PK people who don't like to play the way you do.
How's this for a rule: Anyone who is in a T2 ship and a security rating of less than 0.0 is insta-CONCORDOKKEN'd and podded upon entering .5 space or higher. I mean, I don't care for the way you play, so I should be able to apply arbitrary penalties to you, right?
There are plenty of ways to deal with macro miners. FNA chat is frequently abuzz with the location of a macroer, and everyone flocks there to loot his ore cans empty and set out trap cans to flag the miners for death.
Plus, as mentioned, all the macroers would need to do is to make some tiny obscure corporation to get around a barge restriction. Get an EVEMail that you've been wardec'd? Disband the corporation and start a new one. A million ISK is pocket change.
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 01:54:00 -
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Why not simple ban isk trading And Trading ore possible selling on the market in general while you are in a NPC corp.
If you are in a NPC corp you should be working for yourself.
This will force more people into Corps and stop the marco mining becuase it is not pro*****ble
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Kim Chee
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Posted - 2005.12.20 02:19:00 -
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"A million ISK is pocket change"
Can I have what's in your sofa cushions? :)
Seriously though... why do you all feel the need to control how other people play the game?
Macro miners are scum, yes. I think almost everyone who isn't one will agree to that. CCP has handed us a nice new tool to nail them with, namely bait cans. Use them!
Don't try to force everyone to join a Happy Fun Corp(TM) just because YOU can't imagine anyone choosing to play solo unless they're a hax0r. It's people like you that keep me from trying to join a corp in the first place.
Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion.
Kerr Avon: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.20 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Sejanus
Plus, as mentioned, all the macroers would need to do is to make some tiny obscure corporation to get around a barge restriction. Get an EVEMail that you've been wardec'd? Disband the corporation and start a new one. A million ISK is pocket change.
isn't disbanding corp to evade wardecs bannable?
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2005.12.20 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
ban them in NPC corps?
Are those your undies on that Hippos head?
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.12.20 06:53:00 -
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So, you want to lose that as a game resource, then yeah, squelch the noobcorps. But we're the ones encouraging them to finish the tutorials and start on the right foot and make sound choices...
nice try...but
1)i and many i know had no help in noob corps...didnt do us any harm
2) join eve university..a corp which speicilises in helping new players.
3) create a similar corp of your own
4) log in to the help channel and do it that way
5) many corp will aid new players (as i have been a new player myself 3 times ove and recived help and tuition 3 times in different corps)
PVP is emphisised in eve..its not the be all and end all true..but you are still abusing game emchanics to avoid a part of the game taking out any risk factor involved...ive had to train up inustrial skill for 6 weeks as mining and industry is a essential part of the game..i hate it but have to do it..why should players be able to abuse the game mechanics to avoid another part of the game they find tedious..specialy when it is abuse by eve's scum to be safe
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How about leaving the newbie corps alone instead of looking for new and ever-more-jerkish ways to PK people who don't like to play the way you do.
ridiculous steryotyping and assumptions 4tw!
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Pihls
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kim Chee
"A million ISK is pocket change"
Can I have what's in your sofa cushions? :)
Seriously though... why do you all feel the need to control how other people play the game?
Macro miners are scum, yes. I think almost everyone who isn't one will agree to that. CCP has handed us a nice new tool to nail them with, namely bait cans. Use them!
Don't try to force everyone to join a Happy Fun Corp(TM) just because YOU can't imagine anyone choosing to play solo unless they're a hax0r. It's people like you that keep me from trying to join a corp in the first place.
I gotta agree "dont" try push people into your own way of playing
Im no newbie it's a glith in code
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:05:00 -
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/sign.
Make Noobcorps frigs, cruisers, haulers only. Anything bigger and you can't undock in that ship. (Same as having too many drones in your bay post-RMR)
Sure, These corps provide a service that's free of greifers, etc. But even in that is a flaw (that's been said before): Game Mechanics and Principles abuse. Don't want to join a corp? Roger that, make your own. 1.5mil isk and Corp Management 1.
I also consider that abuse of the system, and I also never received help in a noobcorp. I promptly found a corp that was helpful.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: HippoKing
ban them in NPC corps?
Are those your undies on that Hippos head?
 it took me 2mins in paint. someone should be making me a better version soon
Where is my I-win button, CCP? |
VeniVidiVici
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: HippoKing
ban them in NPC corps?
Are those your undies on that Hippos head?
it took me 2mins in paint. someone should be making me a better version soon
Dont listen to him - he has a strenge hippo-panties fetish...
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