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Pheonix Grey
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Posted - 2005.12.21 14:00:00 -
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Why is it haulers, namely the bestower, cannot fit a 10mn MWD but this is the class mwd it requires. It makes me sad going at 200m/s =(
i am almost certain i used to able to go considerably faster but admittadly i have not used a hauler in some time and could quite possibly be mistaken. In which case i am sorry for wasting your time =P
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.21 14:01:00 -
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because they're supposed to be slow.
if you want to go faster than put nanofibers on a sigil or train for T2 haulers.
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Kamikazi Atlas
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Posted - 2005.12.21 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kamikazi Atlas on 21/12/2005 14:04:24
Iteron MkV with 3x RCUII and 2x Nanofibers.....Nice and fast |
Binary Mind
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Posted - 2005.12.21 14:48:00 -
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I don't know.. I like my fat'n'slow 25km¦ Iteron V
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.12.21 14:58:00 -
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Make Instas
Fit Cargo Expanders
Win
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Arngorf
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Posted - 2005.12.21 15:43:00 -
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i got a wreath for 0.0 running... i have only been caught when they used mobile warp disruptors...
the setup is
med: 1MN MWD, 1 Shield Extender (cant remember size tho)
Low: 2 x beta hull mod nanofiber structure
it is fast as hell.. only if a inty is within range of you it can get to scramble you and with instants u got no prob... it also got a very nice cap (calculated to be able to jump 250 AU on full cap)......
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.12.21 15:58:00 -
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Get a Sigil:
MWD 10 MN
RCU II in low slots (and hopefully also an expander).
Low cargo capacity, but hight speed (around 1500 m/s) 
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Pheonix Grey
Why is it haulers, namely the bestower, cannot fit a 10mn MWD but this is the class mwd it requires. It makes me sad going at 200m/s =(
i am almost certain i used to able to go considerably faster but admittadly i have not used a hauler in some time and could quite possibly be mistaken. In which case i am sorry for wasting your time =P
Phe0nix
Fill the lower slots with Nanofiber Is. In that configuration my Bestower does over 600m/s. Of course I have less carrying capacity that way.
Hmmm. I wonder if there's a lesson to be learnt here?
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sybylle
Get a Sigil:
MWD 10 MN
RCU II in low slots (and hopefully also an expander).
Low cargo capacity, but hight speed (around 1500 m/s)
I use an Auguror for fast, small cargos. 1k m3 and 2km/s. Admittedly the combination of long warps and MWD seriously hits the capacitor but with excellent skills it's not too bad.
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Nevyn Jax
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:52:00 -
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Maybe I'm confused as to how nano's work. The best Tech I nano I saw only adds 24m/s to your speed. Even with 4 of them, that's only adding 96 m/s and has a 52% reduction in your structural strength.
Even with high Navigation skill I don't see how this gets the base Bestower's speed from 125 m/s to 600 m/s. Where's the other math coming from? What am I missing?
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:55:00 -
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Don't worry about structure. You don't need to worry about gate rates because you'll hit the gate fast enough to avoid a lock. You don't need to worry about players because if they get you, they'll kill you whether you fit nanos or not.
On my Iteron V I fit 5 x Nanos, a 10MN AB II and some shield tanking stuff. High slot I always put a cloak - it's saved me and my cargo on more than one occassion when aligning for warp on the other side of a gate.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.12.21 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sybylle
Get a Sigil:
MWD 10 MN
RCU II in low slots (and hopefully also an expander).
Low cargo capacity, but hight speed (around 1500 m/s)
only 1500? I get 929m/s with T2 ab, T1 nanos and various implants, 1111m/s if I replace nanos with overdrive
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Nevyn Jax
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:51:00 -
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Sorry to reiterate, but I still need a touch of clarification on how nanos work. Am I right in that having 5 of the 'best' Tech 1 nano's only boosts your base speed by 96m/s? Or is there a point to the math that I'm missing?
I see people posting about nano use a lot, so I'm just trying to get a feel for why they are seemingly considered so good.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nevyn Jax
Sorry to reiterate, but I still need a touch of clarification on how nanos work. Am I right in that having 5 of the 'best' Tech 1 nano's only boosts your base speed by 96m/s? Or is there a point to the math that I'm missing?
I see people posting about nano use a lot, so I'm just trying to get a feel for why they are seemingly considered so good.
Dont they add up...ie...+25%...+24%...etc...etc...?
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Angus Tadj
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Posted - 2005.12.21 18:51:00 -
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Try out the T2 haulers, the Transport Ship class. They can easily fit 10MN MWDs. The Blockade Runner in particular is a super ship. My Viator (Gallente) bounces off the gates at over 1600 m/s and it is still accelerating, oh yes  It has fairly good cargo capacity too. Absolutely super hauler where huge capacity isn't necessary.
10MN MWD, RCU, Cap Recharger and a pair of nano's sort me out, and I regularly rip the paint off the hulls of other ships on the run in to the gate, woo hoo!
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chillz
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Posted - 2005.12.21 19:45:00 -
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hehe the race to the gate, not heard that for a while. Fun before everyone had instas for everywhere.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jennai
Originally by: Sybylle
Get a Sigil:
MWD 10 MN
RCU II in low slots (and hopefully also an expander).
Low cargo capacity, but hight speed (around 1500 m/s)
only 1500? I get 929m/s with T2 ab, T1 nanos and various implants, 1111m/s if I replace nanos with overdrive
I can go faster, but when warping @15km, you don't have time to get over that speed.
IIRC I've reached 1800 m/s, but haven't used it recently...I have to test :D
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot
Originally by: Nevyn Jax
Sorry to reiterate, but I still need a touch of clarification on how nanos work. Am I right in that having 5 of the 'best' Tech 1 nano's only boosts your base speed by 96m/s? Or is there a point to the math that I'm missing?
I see people posting about nano use a lot, so I'm just trying to get a feel for why they are seemingly considered so good.
Dont they add up...ie...+25%...+24%...etc...etc...?
Nano's main purpose is not the speed, but the inertia bonus you get from them.
For instance, this is my favorite nano :). With 3 of them on a Sigil, you align very fast for warp, have a nice acceleration, plus have a very nice +72 m/s to speed.
Add a 10MN AB on the indy and enjoy 
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.12.22 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nevyn Jax
Sorry to reiterate, but I still need a touch of clarification on how nanos work. Am I right in that having 5 of the 'best' Tech 1 nano's only boosts your base speed by 96m/s? Or is there a point to the math that I'm missing?
I see people posting about nano use a lot, so I'm just trying to get a feel for why they are seemingly considered so good.
Firstly I should point out in case it wasn't obvious that this is using an afterburner as well. I'm not sure of the math but I do have very good navigation skills. Everything is at lvl 4.
Also don't overlook the agility pay off. Not only will you travel in a straight line faster but you get into warp quicker. With the nanos installed I usually warp away from gates within a couple of seconds of jumping through.
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Theonlystd
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:14:00 -
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t2 indy's pretty safe in teh 0.0?
I just flew a mammoth 12jumps threw 0.0. Got chased for half of em. It was a bit close ill say
But made it with nanos in the botom and instants
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Draig Coch
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:45:00 -
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My Occator either fits 6 nanos with a t2 10mn AB for high-sec space running (hits over 800 m/s),or maxed out with expanders and cans. I have a shield expander always fitted as well (medium I think).
Maxed out gives over 27k cargo space. Ideal for mining ops, also fine for cargo runs if your using instas. Without instas it is incredibly slow, so you need to balance off the cargo space gained with the speed hit (like 90 m/s)
For low sec, I try not to use any more than 2 expanders. 10mn MWD and 4 warp stabs. If no expanders, in low sec then I add in 2 nanos or more stabs. Warp stabs are a must have item for me in low sec. Four o them means the ebil people who want to kill me have a hard time holding me. On average it will take 3-4 people to stop me warping. The Occator has enough shield/armour to last long enough to hit warp.With that many people on you, if they get you your dead anyway, no matter what you fit. However single or duo hunters have little chance of holding me. If I am feeling particularly paranoid I will fit 6 stabs.
The reason for using nanos as opposed to overdrives is that nanos give a small speed boost which combined with the MWD/AB take you to decent speeds. Also just as important is the extra agility given to the ship, so you get into warp much faster. An often overlooked detail but important to trader types is that the nanos don't reduce your cargo space, overdrives do. Overall, nanos win out as they get you into warp faster, give you more straight line speed, and don't reduce cargo space. Overdrives give you much faster straightline speed, but don't help you get into warp any faster, and also reduce your cargo hold capacity.
Combined with instas, I'm happy enough with it. Tough ship to kill.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.12.22 13:40:00 -
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Good post Draig Coch ^^
But anyway, being ganked in 0.0 while driving an indy leads to certain death, unless you are docking to a station or something like that.
I prefer (but that's a personal choice) put no expanders but nanos and warp core stabs.
Additionnally, I always have a cloacking device fitted.
This is a personal choice, leading to a lesser cargo space that can be somewhat compensated through the use of containers in the cargohold.
The reason is quite simple : with loads of nanos, you can warp faster than hell.
If you get ganked while you pass a get, you can be sure to get ganked on the other side (by the same guy or one of his corpm8s), and if you take some more hits, be sure that they will destroy your ship along with your pod.
However, with nanos you are able to warp to any object (moon, planet, belt) before every other ennemy gets in and start shooting/scrambling... Once you reach destination, cloack while moving upward/downward. You can for instance set a direction once out of warp, hit once your AB/MWD and cloack... You should be safe from any danger, even if they come after you...
I've done this a lot of times and still have to loose my ship ^^
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.22 13:45:00 -
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Ships and Modules forum is  way
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2005.12.22 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Ships and Modules forum is way
Yup...Should be moved there indeed ^^
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