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Commandante Chongo WE FIGHT 0	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:16:00 - [1] - Quote Got a math problem for someone smarter than myself: Character at sec status -9.9997 Current pod sec hit is about -6.5% how many pods would it take to get from -9.9997 to -10.0000 20m isk for a worked out solution
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 3211	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:17:00 - [2] - Quote Over 9000!!? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Lindsey Stirling Dragonfire Industries Madz Republic 0	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:21:00 - [3] - Quote Isn't this like approaching the speed of light? Can never actually reach it? LS
Diesel47 Bad Men Ltd. 873	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote You have to kill babies to get -10 flat.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15928	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote GêP GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Arkenai Wyrnspire Amatin Navy 1844	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:39:00 - [6] - Quote I think there's a minimum sec status hit that lets you get to -10. I'd guess 2 or 3 more pods. Could be wrong though, I've never gone -10. Sig'd.-áGallente FW best FW.
EvilweaselSA GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation 927	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:42:00 - [7] - Quote are you asking what it takes to get to 10 flat or merely to get a specific number of nines (eve stores a lot more than five decimal points for your sec status)
Pitrolo Orti Caldari Provisions Caldari State 81	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:42:00 - [8] - Quote La contestacion es infinito Waiting for the ISK Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.
MacKael Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda 498	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:43:00 - [9] - Quote 1 in high sec
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 1090	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:44:00 - [10] - Quote Tippia wrote: GêP This removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Obunagawe 207	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:45:00 - [11] - Quote 27 pods until it rounds to -10.0000 (aka, >9.99995) Openoffice crashed and I can't copy paste because it is ****. my life. 1 should really be 0. 19.9997 29.9997195 39.9997377325 49.9997547799 59.9997707192 69.9997856224 79.999799557 89.9998125858 99.9998247677 109.9998361578 119.9998468075 129.9998567651 139.9998660753 149.9998747804 159.9998829197 169.9998905299 179.9998976455 189.9999042985 199.9999105191 209.9999163354 219.9999217736 229.9999268583 239.9999316125 249.9999360577 259.9999402139 269.9999441 279.9999477335 289.9999511309** 299.9999543073 309.9999572774 319.9999600543 329.9999626508 339.9999650785 349.9999673484 359.9999694708 369.9999714552 379.9999733106 389.9999750454 399.9999766674 409.9999781841 419.9999796021 429.999980928 439.9999821676 449.9999833267 459.9999844105 469.9999854238 479.9999863713
Alberik Eusebius Corporation 23	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:59:00 - [12] - Quote Look at this
Private Pineapple Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition 418	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:08:00 - [13] - Quote Mathematically, using %'s you can never get to 0. But for all intents and purposes as well as practicality, the standard is to wait until a certain point that allows you to go "Yep, it's pretty much -10." The math twist on the "man walks into a bar..." joke explains this to the common layman (the OP), it goes like this: "Infinitely many mathematicians walk into a bar. The first says, "I'll have a beer." The second says, "I'll have half a beer." The third says, "I'll have a quarter of a beer." The barman pulls out just two beers. The mathematicians are all like, "That's all you're giving us? How drunk do you expect us to get on that?" The bartender says, "Come on guys. Know your limits."" "Know your limits." is a reference to a mathematical procedure in situations like this. So, literally, you will never hit true -10 sec status. Practically, it's whatever arbitrary number CCP decided on to avoid the following: -9.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999....forever I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8555	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:09:00 - [14] - Quote You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst. Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Commandante Chongo WE FIGHT 0	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:10:00 - [15] - Quote Obunagawe wrote: 27 pods until it rounds to -10.0000 (aka, >9.99995) Openoffice crashed and I can't copy paste because it is ****. my life. 1 should really be 0. 19.9997 29.9997195 39.9997377325 49.9997547799 59.9997707192 69.9997856224 79.999799557 89.9998125858 99.9998247677 109.9998361578 119.9998468075 129.9998567651 139.9998660753 149.9998747804 159.9998829197 169.9998905299 179.9998976455 189.9999042985 199.9999105191 209.9999163354 219.9999217736 229.9999268583 239.9999316125 249.9999360577 259.9999402139 269.9999441 279.9999477335 289.9999511309** 299.9999543073 309.9999572774 319.9999600543 329.9999626508 339.9999650785 349.9999673484 359.9999694708 369.9999714552 379.9999733106 389.9999750454 399.9999766674 409.9999781841 419.9999796021 429.999980928 439.9999821676 449.9999833267 459.9999844105 469.9999854238 479.9999863713 However, you'll never really get to a true -10, as the size of the increment will exceed the limit of a floating point variable before the number of decimal places in the sec status exceeds the limit of a floating point variable. This is the best worked out but it cant be right.. i have podded 9 pods and not even a 0.0001 that's a third of your total amount and it should get progressively harder
Commandante Chongo WE FIGHT 0	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:11:00 - [16] - Quote oh and yeas i dont want true -10.00000000000000000000 i just want the 4 decimals -10.0000
EvilweaselSA GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation 929	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:12:00 - [17] - Quote Andski wrote: You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst. wheres the fun in that
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8555	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:15:00 - [18] - Quote EvilweaselSA wrote: Andski wrote: You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst. wheres the fun in that or smartbombs Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Luis Graca 197	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:19:00 - [19] - Quote Have you try to smartbomb jita 4-4 undock ?
Obunagawe 208	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:26:00 - [20] - Quote Commandante Chongo wrote: This is the best worked out but it cant be right.. i have podded 9 pods and not even a 0.0001 that's a third of your total amount and it should get progressively harder Keep at it. There's no mathematical reason that you should be sticking at 9.9997 that I can see. Keep going, it's for Science!!! How many pods did it take for 9.9996 to 9.9997?
Lazy Eagle FUITA Eternal Syndicate 2	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:30:00 - [21] - Quote Clearly the answer is "Sproing"...., damn plebeians
Tikera Tissant 48	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:35:00 - [22] - Quote Doesn't that all depends on how many numbers after the dot CCP are saving in the database, or what type of numeric it is? If its up to 5, all you need is 5 more kills to get is 30 pods to get to a -9.999995 and the rounded number will end up being -10.00000. If its a floating number, it might be almost infinite. Large enough that you you will never reach it.
Wingmate Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda 115	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:38:00 - [23] - Quote Luis Graca wrote: Have you try to smartbomb jita 4-4 undock ? this is pretty much the best idea. make sure you get next to a pod when you do it first, never know what km you might get. making a corp while in jita (or moving your corp headquarters there) means you can set your pod for 4-4 as well. just keep undocking in an ibis with a micro bomb on it and you'll hit it in ten minutes.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 617	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:38:00 - [24] - Quote Andski wrote: EvilweaselSA wrote: Andski wrote: You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst. wheres the fun in that or smartbombs Does it work if you agress ships instead of pods? If yes, the Jita-Perimeter gate at prime time is a good place to "hunt" I guess.
Solstice Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 3455	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:41:00 - [25] - Quote Took me three to five pods in a 0.5 to get from -9.99 to -10. Can't recall exactly anymore. :(
Solstice Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 3455	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:43:00 - [26] - Quote Wingmate wrote: Luis Graca wrote: Have you try to smartbomb jita 4-4 undock ? this is pretty much the best idea. make sure you get next to a pod when you do it first, never know what km you might get. making a corp while in jita (or moving your corp headquarters there) means you can set your pod for 4-4 as well. just keep undocking in an ibis with a micro bomb on it and you'll hit it in ten minutes. Good luck finding targets actual 30km away from the undock ... ... otoh, of course, some people actually do undock and cruise for a while.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 5567	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:59:00 - [27] - Quote I read this thread wrong. I came looking for a 20mil ISK meth problem. Leaving disappointed. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
MacKael Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda 502	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:06:00 - [28] - Quote Eve is dying.
Commandante Chongo WE FIGHT 0	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:38:00 - [29] - Quote Obunagawe wrote: Commandante Chongo wrote: This is the best worked out but it cant be right.. i have podded 9 pods and not even a 0.0001 that's a third of your total amount and it should get progressively harder Keep at it. There's no mathematical reason that you should be sticking at 9.9997 that I can see. Keep going, it's for Science!!! How many pods did it take for 9.9996 to 9.9997? dont remember but im keeping a tally from 9997 to 9998. il let u know no one yet to be able to give me a number so no payout as of yet
stoicfaux 3046	Posted - 2013.08.07 01:07:00 - [30] - Quote Serious effort has been made to document how floating point numbers should behave. IEEE floating point. Try reading up on the formats and the rounding rules. IEEE = Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers You would need a dev to tell you what standard the EVE servers are using. Even then, there could be some arbitrary rounding in the code somewhere.

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