Originally by: Adamus TorK

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Originally by: thoth foc

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150+ loses for 27 odd kills?

what a victory!!

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I wonder if we had 150+ in gang LOL... well you always know better :P

Anyway, it was fun... I was albe to shoot a Relevation for about 2 min... after that the lag was terrible... Many of us's ships, weapons and densors didnt respond and some of us was crashed and stucked :P

btw, thanks for the "fight" :P

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Originally by: Mortus Harbinger

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Edited by: Mortus Harbinger on 22/12/2005 06:14:30
Has ATUK *ever* admitted to losing a battle? That's not a flame .. it's a serious question. I see a lot of ego and excuses from most of the ATUK members who post here, but can't remember anyone saying 'good fight, we lost' ... (in this or any other threads)

Mort

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Originally by: Robotek Hybrid

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Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 06:40:48

Originally by: Carth Jared

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No im just straight and plain proving you wrong. Damage and success isnt just measured in lost ships and modules.

A few things thing you fail to consider in the equation:
1.ratio.
Looking at our losses and then the amount of ships we killed we were more then satisfied at the outcome (I believe its almost 7:1).
2. Morale.
It seems that f-e is just happy they held the system so perhaps its not the big factor here but i'd still say 150+ losses in 1 night leaves a scar.
3. Goal
We achived what we were there to get. A fight.

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wtf does that have to do with anything I wrote. read it understand it then comment. God my own nations school systems are letting me down in the form of this guy ( assuming he's American).

edit forgot to add i think your a ******* moron.

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Originally by: pershphanie

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Originally by: Carth Jared

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Originally by: pershphanie

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Must be nice to live in such a simplistic world where wars are won and lost strickly from kill vs loss ratio.

You guys knew the d7-zac area has been already lagged to hell. So you saw an opertunity to capitalize on that. You brought down dreads and tried to take out our pos's. We fought you off forcing your dreads to retreat back to their npc station. We did take heavy losses, but we stopped you from achieving your goal. But you had a better kill to loss ratio so you 'win'. What ever makes you feel better I guess.

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Thats just it.. You didnt..

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oh thats right. you guys jumped your dreads down for a leasurly stroll. I forgot.

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Originally by: Robotek Hybrid

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Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 06:50:05

Originally by: ZedLey

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wow you got nothing else to respond with than a personal attack. Must suck to be you.

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your in atuk Id say it doesnt suck as much to be me than you then. cry me a river ya bunch of chavs.


edit. love how you always fall back on the " your not allowed to do that " rules

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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Originally by: Kcel Chim

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one last point about taking down the posses to take sovereignity in d7.

Would it make sense to start such an assault on:
-a weekday
-3h before everyone has to log due to work etc on the next day
-with just 40-50 ppl when local is all the time at 70
-without any own posses in the backpack
-with atleast 4 hostile pos in the system

evaluate that compared to noobscriptors reasons given for our attack and draw your own conclusion.

As for all the RL analogies and "claiming the battlefield" dont forget that
a) eve is not rl warfare (if i destroy i.e. a dread and leave the place after it you can have "the field" for all i care)
b) FE didnt hold the "battlefields, everyone in the fight will admit that FE pulled out to regroup after each engagement (apart maybe from the final one which i personally didnt follow anymore due to my ships death).
c) Atuk had enough time to destroy a good amount of cans but to check huge canfields after a fight is just impractical, especially if the enemy has the chance to regroup quickly due to close by ship and equipment supplies.
d) Atuk finally left the field when it was time to log for most of our guys anyways, our dreads tugged away and our core fleet still at 50% strenght.

All in all i guess even the FE pilots who were in the fight will agree that without a close by supply depot and ship depot the fight would have prolly ended after the first or 2nd engagement with FE leaving the field as their first 2 fleets took insane losses. Kudos tho for your staying abilitiy and the actual will to come back. Like some dude with a W from FE stated many of us had excessive fun with acceptable lack (atleast it was no nodecrash and not 90% of all kills are down to game actups but solid combat).

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Aah another classic.

a) some of your members have said your aim was 'the field' which is it ? The system, the POS, the killing, the laughing on the forums ? Aim for many things you bound to hit something.

b) apart from maybe the final one.... which is of course the one that actually matters since the victor has time to get the cans.

c)

d) we could have stayed but it was past out bed time.
d) we were winning but decided to let F-E have it becuase we are good like that.
d) we were winning but really it was such a drag to stay
d) had we stayed another 10 mins you would have had no ships left
d) we didn't want the loot anyways like we didn't want Curse.
d) we couldn't be bothered fighting anyway a bit like when MC were on us in Empire

the conclusions I drew from the battle are the same conclusions I get from every story of fighting ATUK.

No matter the outcome of the battle you would say you had won on all counts.

Had we wiped out your entire fleet they would have been ships you didn't want anyway and the insurance was about to run out on them as well.

Morale in F-E is at an all time high.

Please call again, what kills us only makes us stronger.

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Originally by: Jaqs

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atuk the 5 think posting in forums smack talking is actual fighting and winning pwning whatever gl on that lmao.

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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...random bollox...

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Originally by: Bone Collector44

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Edited by: Bone Collector44 on 22/12/2005 20:59:49

Originally by: BuRnEr

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Edited by: BuRnEr on 22/12/2005 20:40:10

Originally by: Bone Collector44

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My take:

Fighting atuk = BORING
Reading atuk posts = BORING

All in all you guys are simply boring. Watching paint dry is more fun than trying to engage you guys.

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See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring.

Good, that¦s the point, it will make you quit the game quicker

If you think it cant get anymore boring Just wait and see, We are somewere close to 10 old Oc members in Atuk and being boring was what we were best at...Trust me.

And since we killed your fleet 3 times over last night it could¦t have been to hard to get a fight... that is if you undocked ofc.

edit - spelling

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See the paint drying comment above. You are even boring when talking about being boring. You guys are a long ways from BORING me out of the game. You spend a total of maybe an hour a day in tribute and are safespotted for 55 of those minutes. B O R I N G.

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Originally by: shakaZ XV

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FE: Parking is prohibited in H-PA, your ships have been forcibly removed. Thanks for coming though!



(logging with aggro timer... oh dear )

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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle

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For an alliance that so far has lost almost 50% of its members in this war, they sure like to brag and pretend to be tough and uber.

Keep it up ATUK, the work you have done so far in this war has done nothing but help us

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Originally by: Jherek Cornelian

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...Trying to be something...

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