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Silver Getsuga
Quantum Studies Institute
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:56:00 -
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Are Eagles supposed to tank with signatures? |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:14:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Malcanis wrote:Remember that MJDs exist. Go go gadget get the **** outa there!
Or in some cases more importantly, get the **** in there. |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:29:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Darling Hassasin wrote:Additionally an Eagle fleet (as an example) is a lot harder to hit, better tanked and has a lot better tracking than a Tornado fleet (a lot less alpha of course)... so ... lets just say I dont think that TQ has made the most of the relevant meta yet... I expect we will be seeing more...
Hek they might even start using Cruise missile snipers more ... Burn Eden was doing it even back in 2006 lol... Eagles have two advantages over the Nado fleet: triple EHP before fleet boosters and guns cycling way faster, ok rails alpha is ridiculous but the time you get a second shot on the same Eagle this one as already put 4 on you, multiply 4 by the number of them and you get enough alpha/dps to shred to pieces one by one Nados fleets and faster the Nados should be able to kill the Eagles. Nice counter to eagles is still rails Nagas, they get tank and gank, but this is of course purely theoretical and should not be theoretically interesting if numbers start climbing after 50 dudes fleet. Edit: I'm quite surprised after the Cruise missiles buff what a CNR can push as tank and alpha/dps not being restricted to dmg type, which is huge advantage, however targeting range is a problem and requires slots to increase it reducing tank/dmg mods by a huge percentage. But yep, would like to see this happen, with over 6K alpha strike no matter the dmg type looks quite interesting on paper vs other BS types, but only on paper.
No, the counter to eagles aren't nagas, its the other way round (due to t2 caldari resistances). The counter to eagles is it's isk cost. |
BOHC Lotteries
BOHC Lotteries Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:49:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Darling Hassasin wrote:Additionally an Eagle fleet (as an example) is a lot harder to hit, better tanked and has a lot better tracking than a Tornado fleet (a lot less alpha of course)... so ... lets just say I dont think that TQ has made the most of the relevant meta yet... I expect we will be seeing more...
Hek they might even start using Cruise missile snipers more ... Burn Eden was doing it even back in 2006 lol... Eagles have two advantages over the Nado fleet: triple EHP before fleet boosters and guns cycling way faster, ok rails alpha is ridiculous but the time you get a second shot on the same Eagle this one as already put 4 on you, multiply 4 by the number of them and you get enough alpha/dps to shred to pieces one by one Nados fleets and faster the Nados should be able to kill the Eagles. Nice counter to eagles is still rails Nagas, they get tank and gank, but this is of course purely theoretical and should not be theoretically interesting if numbers start climbing after 50 dudes fleet. Edit: I'm quite surprised after the Cruise missiles buff what a CNR can push as tank and alpha/dps not being restricted to dmg type, which is huge advantage, however targeting range is a problem and requires slots to increase it reducing tank/dmg mods by a huge percentage. But yep, would like to see this happen, with over 6K alpha strike no matter the dmg type looks quite interesting on paper vs other BS types, but only on paper. No, the counter to eagles aren't nagas, its the other way round (due to t2 caldari resistances). The counter to eagles is it's isk cost.
No the counter to eagles is the fact they suck donkey **** until the next patch. Then again you my see a Rail tengu fleet at that point with even more ehp then the eagles. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.15 13:18:00 -
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BOHC Lotteries wrote:
No the counter to eagles is the fact they suck donkey **** until the next patch. Then again you my see a Rail tengu fleet at that point with even more ehp then the eagles.
There are going to be some interesting rail proteus builds available as well. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:25:00 -
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Onictus wrote:BOHC Lotteries wrote:
No the counter to eagles is the fact they suck donkey **** until the next patch. Then again you my see a Rail tengu fleet at that point with even more ehp then the eagles.
There are going to be some interesting rail proteus builds available as well.
Eagles? Proteuseses? No. I think it will rather be Cerbs.  |
Ryuce
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:45:00 -
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Regarding your NM it is a very good mission boat in Blood Raider space (Sansha's TD's can be cripling).
The issue with the NM in regard to missions is, that that you are only capable of dealing a limited to dealing EM/thermal damage, which tends to make the NM suboptimal outside of especially Blood Raider missions/space.
As other have mentioned, if you provide it with the correct scenario, it is a very good ship. |
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