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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:08:00 -
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Sorry but the smart people in TEST started being worried well over a year ago when leadership decided to backstab old friends and cuddle up to old enemies. Then you morons started calling them toxic. TEST has both a leadership problem, and a cultural problem. I don't think there will be a recovery unless there are drastic changes. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1945
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Posted - 2013.08.10 06:46:00 -
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metalravenous wrote:The question is less about state of test and more to learn from other ppls experiences.
It goes back to your situation perfectly. Make solid friends and fire the current leadership. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1998
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:57:00 -
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Leonidas Webb wrote:Here are a few tips for TEST to aid in thier recovery.
1). Most importantly you must have goals. Not the "we shall rule the universe and get revenge on those that did this to us" sort, but honest, realistic, achievable goals for short, intermediate, and long term.
2). You need trustworthy, accountable leadership willing to do what is necessary to achieve those goals.
3). "Trim the fat" - in essence, first boot anyone that is severely inactive, then boot anyone whose agenda is not in line with the completion of your goals.
4). Learn who your friends are and treat them with gratitude and respect.
5). Learn and grow from every encounter as both victory and defeat are useful and informative and an excellent resource for strengthening your alliance if viewed objectively.
I could keep going but that should be more than enough to point you in the right direction.
These are some good points:
1) Defining an alliance objective by who you hate really doesn't work. Especially not when the group you dislike is the size of say... the CFC. In order to fight something that large you have to draw together all the people that hate us, and frankly most of them don't much like eachother either.
2) This is a major problem in TEST right now. TEST is leadership by the masses, which means rather than having a unifying organization and direction, instead you are firing off in all different directions.
3) This will be an issue for TEST as they have attempted to build upon the Goonwaffe "I do whatever I want whenever I want" mentality but they never much bothered to do the necessary things that would enable that to happen and still succeed. Look we don't have SMA blue because we love them. We have them blue because they will fight while I rat in my Ishtar, or focus on small gang ****.
4) This has been a major stumbling block for TEST. You can try to spin the narrative of the evil CFC wickedly handing you two regions on a silver platter while keeping you under their jackbooted heels however you want, but it's simply not true. If you do try to spin that narrative you'll be forced to answer questions like: Why was TEST allowed to keep Tech moons in CFC space despite not being members of that entity anymore? TEST absolutely must learn to not **** on their allies, they must learn diplomacy. And most importantly they must start actually living up to the promises they make.
5) Is really just a clever way of restating points 1-4. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2006
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:54:00 -
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Callduron wrote: That said there were good reasons why TEST took the steps it did - we needed to grow and develop and become independent rather than, say, be the game's largest alliance still crashing in the Testagram and messing up goon comms.
This is exceptionally revisionist, by the time you guys really started outnumbering Goonswarm Federation proper on a regular basis you had already been installed as the lords of fountain. The whole PET status is silly as well. You need look no further than Xdeath to find someone who is generally friendly to us, not a member of our coalition yet has managed to generally avoid pissing in our cornflakes on a regular basis... and if their space were invaded we'd be down there in an instant defending them.
Good diplomacy does not necessarily mean submission to authority. The fact that you guys continue to attempt to rewrite history is one of the major sticking points of our relations today and why the general consensus amongst Joe Goon is "They deserve this." |
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