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Cro Ramel	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:15:00 - [1] Edited by: Cro Ramel on 18/08/2003 17:36:54 Drones aren't really useful in PvP a smartbomb on the target or a missile from your ally makes short work of them. Perhaps "support" drones should be implemented heres a few ideas I had. Expendable 1: Decoy class drone. This drone orbits your ship until someone fires on you. It attempts to "take the bullet" for you and nullify a valid hit. DuckDuckGoose 1: Missile lure drone. This drone snags the target of a missile and tries to make a run for it in the opposite direction of your ship at a modest 500 m/s. It lures the missile away from your ship and may even make it out in one piece. Toasted 1: Suicidal Missile defense drone. This drone automatically charges a missile destined for your hull. Blaster 1: Reliable missile defense. This drone is equipped with a smart bomb and rushes hostile missiles like the Toasted 1 but only takes minimal splash damage from missile so it usually survives. (Should be heavy drones and use your cap for their smart bombs) Only problem with those 4 drones is that it will take some serious coding so that not all of your drones attempt to deal with one missile/shot. And blasters working in range of your ship could hurt. Engineering drones: Solar collectors 1: These drones are equipped with solar panels and energy transfer equipment. They improve your cap recharge rate while they orbit your ship. Shield integrity: These drones either give your shield more HP or increased recharge rate. Repair drones: Armor / Structure repair. Uses your energy to repair your ship. EW drones: Leech 1: These drones orbit targeted ship and work as energy neutralizers. Tin Foil 1: These drones are equipped with lead shields and tin foil hats to block incoming targeting attempts on your ship. I've got some more and i'll post them if these seem to be well liked, Cro out! PS:(can you guess what ship i fly?) "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Cro Ramel TOUAREGS	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Cro Ramel on 18/08/2003 17:36:54 Drones aren't really useful in PvP a smartbomb on the target or a missile from your ally makes short work of them. Perhaps "support" drones should be implemented heres a few ideas I had. Expendable 1: Decoy class drone. This drone orbits your ship until someone fires on you. It attempts to "take the bullet" for you and nullify a valid hit. DuckDuckGoose 1: Missile lure drone. This drone snags the target of a missile and tries to make a run for it in the opposite direction of your ship at a modest 500 m/s. It lures the missile away from your ship and may even make it out in one piece. Toasted 1: Suicidal Missile defense drone. This drone automatically charges a missile destined for your hull. Blaster 1: Reliable missile defense. This drone is equipped with a smart bomb and rushes hostile missiles like the Toasted 1 but only takes minimal splash damage from missile so it usually survives. (Should be heavy drones and use your cap for their smart bombs) Only problem with those 4 drones is that it will take some serious coding so that not all of your drones attempt to deal with one missile/shot. And blasters working in range of your ship could hurt. Engineering drones: Solar collectors 1: These drones are equipped with solar panels and energy transfer equipment. They improve your cap recharge rate while they orbit your ship. Shield integrity: These drones either give your shield more HP or increased recharge rate. Repair drones: Armor / Structure repair. Uses your energy to repair your ship. EW drones: Leech 1: These drones orbit targeted ship and work as energy neutralizers. Tin Foil 1: These drones are equipped with lead shields and tin foil hats to block incoming targeting attempts on your ship. I've got some more and i'll post them if these seem to be well liked, Cro out! PS:(can you guess what ship i fly?) "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Braken	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:19:00 - [3] hey these are pretty good ideas for new drones like the suicide drone only thing is it would also be great if they went on a suicide run into another ship as well as missiles Born To Be Wild!!!!
Braken Caldari	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:19:00 - [4] hey these are pretty good ideas for new drones like the suicide drone only thing is it would also be great if they went on a suicide run into another ship as well as missiles Born To Be Wild!!!!
Miso	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:30:00 - [5] Hmm, imagine a thorax full of kamikaze drones. I like it... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Miso Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.18 14:30:00 - [6] Hmm, imagine a thorax full of kamikaze drones. I like it... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Ruffles	Posted - 2003.08.18 15:07:00 - [7] Edited by: Ruffles on 18/08/2003 15:09:56 Cro, dude. Not only do I like your corp name, and the title of the post. These ideas are corking! Love em :D Some really inventive thoughts :D You are probably quite right, some of those I could see being a bit of a pig to code, but still. *****ing ideas! :D Love those ones about Repair drones, EW ones, hell they are all great :D We had an old thread a while back saying Amarr and Gallante really needed some anti-missile defenses other then just smartbombs, and someone mentioned an anti-missile drone, but these ideas are great :D /Speachless :D I do hope the devs find this thread in amongst the many, this one is great :D I think you are right about the attack drones. Perhaps there should be differing ranges on their attacks, or resistances to certain types of damage, etc. Smartbombing a 4-5k area might also be a little over the top. I mean if you consider frigates trying to attack a battleship and their weapon optimal range is 1km, then they have to get close to do any form of damage, and when orbit options are what? 1km, then 10km? There really isn't much use for them if the target has a smartbomb.
Ruffles	Posted - 2003.08.18 15:07:00 - [8] Edited by: Ruffles on 18/08/2003 15:09:56 Cro, dude. Not only do I like your corp name, and the title of the post. These ideas are corking! Love em :D Some really inventive thoughts :D You are probably quite right, some of those I could see being a bit of a pig to code, but still. *****ing ideas! :D Love those ones about Repair drones, EW ones, hell they are all great :D We had an old thread a while back saying Amarr and Gallante really needed some anti-missile defenses other then just smartbombs, and someone mentioned an anti-missile drone, but these ideas are great :D /Speachless :D I do hope the devs find this thread in amongst the many, this one is great :D I think you are right about the attack drones. Perhaps there should be differing ranges on their attacks, or resistances to certain types of damage, etc. Smartbombing a 4-5k area might also be a little over the top. I mean if you consider frigates trying to attack a battleship and their weapon optimal range is 1km, then they have to get close to do any form of damage, and when orbit options are what? 1km, then 10km? There really isn't much use for them if the target has a smartbomb.
Varia	Posted - 2003.08.18 15:41:00 - [9] Being a big time drone user myself I think Your drone ideas are great. Heres a quick idea to add to yours. I would love an extra command to the ones we currently have. "Guard Target" Var Women that strive to equal men lack ambition.
Varia Gallente	Posted - 2003.08.18 15:41:00 - [10] Being a big time drone user myself I think Your drone ideas are great. Heres a quick idea to add to yours. I would love an extra command to the ones we currently have. "Guard Target" Var Women that strive to equal men lack ambition.
Eilora Wingshy	Posted - 2003.08.18 16:46:00 - [11] While more drones (and other types of drones) would be real sweet, do we really need any more missile defense? Until the missiles get some lovin' I don't really think we need more defense against them.. now those other ones.. -------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions are my own and not those of my corp I don't suffer from insanity, I revel in it. If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research.
Eilora Wingshy Minmatar Solar Wind	Posted - 2003.08.18 16:46:00 - [12] While more drones (and other types of drones) would be real sweet, do we really need any more missile defense? Until the missiles get some lovin' I don't really think we need more defense against them.. now those other ones.. -------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions are my own and not those of my corp I don't suffer from insanity, I revel in it. If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be research.
Cro Ramel	Posted - 2003.08.18 17:36:00 - [13] Yeah I suppose that much missile defense isnt really necessary but its just a thought. As for kamikaze drones, it sounds cool but they'd be the same things as missiles... but seeing as how gallente ships generally dont have launcher hardpoints they might be fitting. "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Cro Ramel TOUAREGS	Posted - 2003.08.18 17:36:00 - [14] Yeah I suppose that much missile defense isnt really necessary but its just a thought. As for kamikaze drones, it sounds cool but they'd be the same things as missiles... but seeing as how gallente ships generally dont have launcher hardpoints they might be fitting. "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Karash Amerius	Posted - 2003.08.18 19:01:00 - [15] This is actually a very interesting post. I urge the devs to be referred to this post by the moderators. Thanks.
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2003.08.18 19:01:00 - [16] This is actually a very interesting post. I urge the devs to be referred to this post by the moderators. Thanks. Merc Blog
Lady Jaxx	Posted - 2003.08.18 19:21:00 - [17] Yes, thought provoking ideas, esp. engineering/jamming drones. I agree misile defence drones would be a bit redundant - (why expend a drone when you can just soak a missile up?). Mind you a dominix pumping out 100s of 50m3 drones and intercepting all missiles would be sweet. As a logical step on cap boosting drones you could have cap draining drones which swarm and diasble opponents (I believe they're mentioned in one of the background stories). Accuracy enhancing drones - camera drones which help you triangulate your fire - they would get the best effect if really far from your ship. "University of Caille 0wnz 4ll j00 l4m3rz"
Lady Jaxx Minmatar	Posted - 2003.08.18 19:21:00 - [18] Yes, thought provoking ideas, esp. engineering/jamming drones. I agree misile defence drones would be a bit redundant - (why expend a drone when you can just soak a missile up?). Mind you a dominix pumping out 100s of 50m3 drones and intercepting all missiles would be sweet. As a logical step on cap boosting drones you could have cap draining drones which swarm and diasble opponents (I believe they're mentioned in one of the background stories). Accuracy enhancing drones - camera drones which help you triangulate your fire - they would get the best effect if really far from your ship. "University of Caille 0wnz 4ll j00 l4m3rz"
Ruffles	Posted - 2003.08.19 15:58:00 - [19] Edited by: Ruffles on 19/08/2003 15:59:28 Well, yeah, I think we do need different missile defenses. Why? Ok, call me daft, but I think smartbombs are a little over-the-top with their radius blast at present. Again, why? Well, frigates already have a very hard time getting near to a target, and now that they do they generally have to be very close range to avoid getting hit, which then puts them slap-bang in the range of smartbombs. Already the chosen means to destroy missiles and hurt everything near them. To bring a little more potential into frigates for long-term wars (as they are the cheapest ships to build/maintain) then I think personally that the smart bomb ranges should be reduced, which then makes them less of a useful missile defense system, still a nasty shock for a frigate if it gets too close, but with a short enough range to still allow them a little flexibility about proximity. Comments please, and hence back to missile defenses.
Ruffles	Posted - 2003.08.19 15:58:00 - [20] Edited by: Ruffles on 19/08/2003 15:59:28 Well, yeah, I think we do need different missile defenses. Why? Ok, call me daft, but I think smartbombs are a little over-the-top with their radius blast at present. Again, why? Well, frigates already have a very hard time getting near to a target, and now that they do they generally have to be very close range to avoid getting hit, which then puts them slap-bang in the range of smartbombs. Already the chosen means to destroy missiles and hurt everything near them. To bring a little more potential into frigates for long-term wars (as they are the cheapest ships to build/maintain) then I think personally that the smart bomb ranges should be reduced, which then makes them less of a useful missile defense system, still a nasty shock for a frigate if it gets too close, but with a short enough range to still allow them a little flexibility about proximity. Comments please, and hence back to missile defenses.
Cro Ramel	Posted - 2003.08.22 18:14:00 - [21] bump "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Cro Ramel TOUAREGS	Posted - 2003.08.22 18:14:00 - [22] bump "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Mrissa Easeah	Posted - 2003.08.25 18:44:00 - [23] Some other ideas off the top of my head - Courier Drones. A heavy (250m) drone with a small cargo bay (10m3 perhaps) that can autopilot itself toward another player's location (Destination becomes 'fixed' after launch). Becomes 'abandoned' though not disabled, after it warps away from its parent ship. Lifespan of about an hour, so don't send it cross Eve and expect it to make it. Plus pirates might decide to take target practice Jamming Drones - (Come in all flavors, 1-3 power levels perhaps) that orbit the target ship and attempt to jam it. Sentry/Patroller Drones- (Patroller Jones?), aka, like the 'guard target' above, but can be left up to an hour unattended orbitting and guarding an object. Then time out (self-destruct) unless picked up before the counter runs out. Message/Advertizing Drones (Mobile beacons) Not the best idea, but an obvious technological progression. Timed to 'advertize' on the local channel once every x seconds with a preprogrammed message (20 characters max). Can be abandoned for up to an hour before timing out (battery for transmission on local freqency runs out of juice). Can also be used to post events or -player- travel advisory info, ewarning that a system is watched. (Love to see pirates have to track these little turkeys down to silence them). Or to declare a system is temporarily under the control of xyz, have your isk-books handy at gates abc. Pied Piper Drone - A specialized jamming drone that 'calls' other drones in the vicinity toward it. Each sensor class has a different Pied Piper model, so what draws an Ogre away might not work on a Wasp (Use similar mechanics to Jamming for this) Target Practice Drones - Big -slow- armored drones with shields that can soak lots of damage, but don't have any weapons mounted. Make them the size of heavy drones, and test your new weapons loadouts on them without risking sec status.
Mrissa Easeah Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2003.08.25 18:44:00 - [24] Some other ideas off the top of my head - Courier Drones. A heavy (250m) drone with a small cargo bay (10m3 perhaps) that can autopilot itself toward another player's location (Destination becomes 'fixed' after launch). Becomes 'abandoned' though not disabled, after it warps away from its parent ship. Lifespan of about an hour, so don't send it cross Eve and expect it to make it. Plus pirates might decide to take target practice Jamming Drones - (Come in all flavors, 1-3 power levels perhaps) that orbit the target ship and attempt to jam it. Sentry/Patroller Drones- (Patroller Jones?), aka, like the 'guard target' above, but can be left up to an hour unattended orbitting and guarding an object. Then time out (self-destruct) unless picked up before the counter runs out. Message/Advertizing Drones (Mobile beacons) Not the best idea, but an obvious technological progression. Timed to 'advertize' on the local channel once every x seconds with a preprogrammed message (20 characters max). Can be abandoned for up to an hour before timing out (battery for transmission on local freqency runs out of juice). Can also be used to post events or -player- travel advisory info, ewarning that a system is watched. (Love to see pirates have to track these little turkeys down to silence them). Or to declare a system is temporarily under the control of xyz, have your isk-books handy at gates abc. Pied Piper Drone - A specialized jamming drone that 'calls' other drones in the vicinity toward it. Each sensor class has a different Pied Piper model, so what draws an Ogre away might not work on a Wasp (Use similar mechanics to Jamming for this) Target Practice Drones - Big -slow- armored drones with shields that can soak lots of damage, but don't have any weapons mounted. Make them the size of heavy drones, and test your new weapons loadouts on them without risking sec status.
Cro Ramel	Posted - 2003.08.27 03:50:00 - [25] Good stuff! Especially the courier drones. I think the jamming drones are a little over the top, unless they had some restrictions. Maybe have them be heavy drones and only be -1 to a given type of targetting system and it'd be fair. I totally disagree with warp disruption drones though, that would be too powerful. Cro out! "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Cro Ramel TOUAREGS	Posted - 2003.08.27 03:50:00 - [26] Good stuff! Especially the courier drones. I think the jamming drones are a little over the top, unless they had some restrictions. Maybe have them be heavy drones and only be -1 to a given type of targetting system and it'd be fair. I totally disagree with warp disruption drones though, that would be too powerful. Cro out! "If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
Lybra	Posted - 2003.08.27 06:36:00 - [27] Great ideas for all of us drone lovers... I think the most interesting of the ones mentioned would be EW / Leech drones, Advertising Drones (one reason traders would look to train those drone skills) and the Pied Piper Drone (my favourite so far). Generally everything that takes drones off their current "blunt" use makes for good material. <waves> CCP, over here! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't"
Lybra Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.08.27 06:36:00 - [28] Great ideas for all of us drone lovers... I think the most interesting of the ones mentioned would be EW / Leech drones, Advertising Drones (one reason traders would look to train those drone skills) and the Pied Piper Drone (my favourite so far). Generally everything that takes drones off their current "blunt" use makes for good material. <waves> CCP, over here! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't"
Serge	Posted - 2003.08.27 10:05:00 - [29] Great ideas! Drones are that cool and usefull its a waste of these great tools to not implement advanced types of them Repair, anti-missile, cap-recharge - great! ok, I can think of 2 more types: Intelligence-drones: Imagine u are surrounded by a swarm of drones that add to your sensor strength? Maybe add to the probability to hit! Missile drones Drones that carry their own load of missiles --> EW drones? not sure if i¦d call this a good one, esp when its target-jam: whats this BS ... Dominix? carries how many drones? enough to EW-take out 5 other BS¦es? hehe, nope!! Cons: All drone-carriers get overpowered this way! Will have to be tweaked down .... *********************************************** ... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha
Serge Amarr Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2003.08.27 10:05:00 - [30] Great ideas! Drones are that cool and usefull its a waste of these great tools to not implement advanced types of them Repair, anti-missile, cap-recharge - great! ok, I can think of 2 more types: Intelligence-drones: Imagine u are surrounded by a swarm of drones that add to your sensor strength? Maybe add to the probability to hit! Missile drones Drones that carry their own load of missiles --> EW drones? not sure if i¦d call this a good one, esp when its target-jam: whats this BS ... Dominix? carries how many drones? enough to EW-take out 5 other BS¦es? hehe, nope!! Cons: All drone-carriers get overpowered this way! Will have to be tweaked down .... --- Don¦t panic

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