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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.12 11:45:00 -
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well it also makes a mockery of the science skill tree i mean what 1000s of accounts doing advanced science skills and maybe 10% at best can use em
Bring in Blueprint copies limited run from agents and other sources - put more science skills to use from more players that bother to train them. Add soem competition ot the t2 pricing market (not much extra supply but adding more suppliers)
Also fro those that dont have skills but have some luck in getting the t2 BPcs they then create a viable price competitive escrow market as well as making more outlets esp in low sec for the new RAM - D.Db BPO production industry
Common CCP give us some balance through youre pathetic decisions beforehand time to right the wrongs. Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |

Zolofine
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Posted - 2006.01.12 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn Some statistics like
1.) average number of RP people had when they got a BPO for each field 2.) a graph that shows how many people got 1, 2, 3, 4... BPOs
would probably do to show whether or not it's random :P
you need stats for that?!
10 guys with 20 rp in total won 30 starship bpo's in total 2guys with 2 trillion rp between the two of them won 2 starship bpo's 100 guys with 50-354373787 RP got various bpo's 40000 guys ranging from 1 rp to anything respectable got nihl 
you dont need any stats, it would just confirm you worst nightmare about the majority of the big ticket bpo's going to people who didn't earn them and loads of people who earned them got didly... |

sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.12 11:53:00 -
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for that last poster like the rest of the programming of late its rushed bugged and totally unbalanced - goes against CCPs approach but with 60-70% of the programming efforts going inot the china server chasing the big bucks at the end of the rainbow this type of shafting is to be expected Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.12 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/01/2006 11:57:19 Look, noone "earned" a 40 billion isk bpo. Unless he did research missions for over a year straight and little else.
What this is about is a goldrush, and those jealous of people that turned out to have staked the right piece of land are crying that they went to more trouble (=trained more skills at an earlier date), and got a big piece of land that only holds veldspar, no gold.
People question wether god put the gold into the ground evenly or not.
Well duh, he did not, that is the effect of randomness you know. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Ebil Genius
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Posted - 2006.01.12 12:57:00 -
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Since this post has well and truly been derailed and rather than continue the argument which has been raging 2 years now when research agents were brought into the game, we should just conclude that this whole research system is utter bollox (apart from the lucky ones who got the good BPOs). Either that or my agent is a thick git who couldn't research his way out of a nut sack. |

Black Sabbath
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Posted - 2006.01.24 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rantor Edited by: Rantor on 24/12/2005 17:24:02 Edited by: Rantor on 24/12/2005 17:13:21 Edited by: Rantor on 24/12/2005 16:14:00 NOTE: please, please, please!!! don't discuss the problem here (there are a plenty of other threads already - here, for example) - either agree and sign or leave it as is.
I've just read a number of current and old posts about RP lottery and have found a number of facts that really make me feel uneasy. I would like to say the following:
1. We are all members of the EVE community. 2. And this community has a fair rule for T2 BPO handout. 3. The results of this lottery have a tremendous effect on EVE community - therefore everyone is an 'interested party'. 4. But we have no way to control/check the fairness and objectivity of the lottery...
I think this is just not right, we need some kind of information disclosure about the results of the lottery.
For example, every public company in RL has strict obligations to publish important information about it's financial condition. We could have a similar control mechanism in EVE too.
Let's demand from CPP to publish the results of each RP BPO lottery they make.
I think this is the only way we can protect our interests. Please sign if you agree.
PS. Results publishing could be either in 'announcements'/'news' or in some forum channel - the mechanics of publishing doesn't really matter.
Whiners 4TL !
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2006.01.24 03:55:00 -
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Thread Necromancy FTL!!! ------------------------------------------------------------
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Doc Brown
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Posted - 2006.01.24 04:06:00 -
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Thread necromancy or not...
I'd still love to see the statistical numbers of T2 BPO's relased and who got them (sanitized by replacing names w/numbers or other random ID's of course).
To be effective this would have to strech back to the first release and be continous as the game progresses. Only then can we see if it's truly random or if there is a pattern.
Doc Brown _________________________________________________
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.24 04:36:00 -
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hmmm would be interesting but isnt going to happen
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Ebil Fred
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Posted - 2006.01.24 08:18:00 -
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unfortunately you have no "right" to demand such information
When are people going to get it into their heads that CCP are perfectly entitled to run the game anyway they choose.
It would pointless without the names and you cannot give out the names as that would stuff up their games for ever more. (\ _ (O /) o) . <) (> I cut up teh bunneh too. |

Doc Brown
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Posted - 2006.01.24 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Doc Brown on 24/01/2006 17:04:04
Originally by: Ebil Fred unfortunately you have no "right" to demand such information
When are people going to get it into their heads that CCP are perfectly entitled to run the game anyway they choose.
It would pointless without the names and you cannot give out the names as that would stuff up their games for ever more.
I'm not demand, just asking... as for if I have a right or not, well I do contribute to their paycheck ;) Yes CCP can run the game how they want, but what's wrong with comparing the virtual economy in Eve to our real one?
It's very common these days to do analysis on data to determine if it's random or not. Take Enron for example, if their auditors actually did their job they would have noticed that some (most) of Enron's numbers were random (i.e: no patteren at all) which means they were artifical.
And no, it would be far from pointless with the names missing because the names don't serve any purpose in an anlysis. Randomized ID numbers would work just as well.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.24 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: sonofollo Here goes my fun logic post that CCP dont seem to listen to
AGENTS RP LP AND STORYLINE AS WELL AS LP BONUSES AND MANUFACTURING AGENTS ONE IN 30 MISSIONS AS WELL AS COMMANDER NPC DROPS VERY RARLEY
TECH 2 1-5 RUN BLUEPRINT COPIES TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS TECH 2 BPCS
HAVE I SAID IT ENOUGH TECH 2 BPCS WHERE ARE THEY PROMISED FOR A LONG TIME TECH 2 BPCS GET THEM INTO TQ NOW NOW NOW NOW HA
/me Steals sonfollo's "Capslock"+"Shift key" and starts smashing them with a baseball bat.
*pheeww*
/me hands back the remaining pieces
Thx..
-Mav
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