Is there any change with respect to the problem where trying to drag locked targets into rows would often open the radial menu on them instead? Trying to press and hold long enough to be able to move the target without opening the radial menu is quite difficult.

Moving the targets around has been changed. Before, you had to hold the mouse down on the target for a while, it would pop out and you could move it. Now you just drag it right away, you will get a "ghost" target and the target itself is not actually moved until you drop it. This is more in line with how drag/drop works everywhere else in the game.
I hope that solves your issue

Is there any possibility that the radial menu will work for the drone bay menu? That would be awesome.

I think the drag/drop may be just as good though, will have to try it.

Sorry, I did edit it to be more clear.


I will have to try the drag drop from drones in space to the drone bay.

My original question was whether the radial menu would work when clicking on a drone from the drone bay menu.

I find myself pulling one drone in to the drone bay which usually means right click menu hell. It would be quite lovely if we could use the radial menu for such things as returning a drone to the drone bay or to tell a specific drone to engage target.

Is that more clear?

karkur I love you and this is awesome to play with on SiSi.

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that one day this could be iterated to simply dragging the group out of the window and 'into space' as it were, instead of having to drop directly on the 'Drones in Local Space' tab?

I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent?

am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

This simple change would be cool.

While it's nice that you're improving the drone UI, what the drone UI needs isn't improving. It's re-doing. And, before that, re-thinking.

And I fear that adding polish to the current (fundamentally flawed / limited) drone UI will make CCP less likely to consider a full overhaul in the near future ("What, and waste all the time we spent polishing the old system?").

[...a lot of stuff....]

I know this is unlikely to happen any time soon, I just urge you to not think of current UI "polish" as a long-term solution. The drone UI needs more fundamental changes to stop feeling like something out of the 1990s.

Is there any chance that drone groups could someday be assigned to module hotkeys?

By that I mean:

• Drone group would show up in the active modules display next to the HUD
• The hotkey to activate would launch that group
• Activating them again would cause them to attack the currently selected targeted
• The hotkey that would overheat a conventional module would cause the drones to return and orbit
• "Overheating" the drones again would cause them to return to the bay.

Or is the current system, on some level, working as intended? I always figured that, because drones can engage targets semi-autonomously, that the reason there is no hotkey to launch them was that it makes it harder for bots to use them.

When you say "change anything about that", do you mean about the fact that we all agree it needs to be changed, or do you mean there are actually some plans / commitment on CCP's part to re-do the whole drone UI at some point?

Basically what I'm asking is:

Do you have a "proper" drone UI / drone command structure up your sleeve (designed and waiting to be implemented, perhaps on the next major expansion) ? Or is that still at the stage were "we agree it needs to be changed, but we don't really know how or when (or if) we're actually going to change it" ?

Yay finally :) But why is setting the delay to zero (still) not recommended?

I haven't read all of the feedback, only OP first post, and I was hoping to find the radial menu added to "Drones" menu element of UI in the space. I was surprised there was no proposal of it in post.

"Jump through" as in the Blops BS jumping or the bridge option for Blops ships on the pig?

I would marry you if you did this one thing.

if i warp away drones will automatically go into distant space.

Yes that means i no longer loose my drones every time i have to bail or warp out!

right now the only way to achieve this is by selecting the drones to 'return to bay' and then warp off before then return home.

example i warp to pin drop my sentries and then burn to optimal and start orbiting... i realize i forgot antimater and have to warp back to pos to pick some up.

so now i have two options either burn back to the sentries to pick them up and then warp to the pos. (lame and slow way)

or i select the drones to return to bay and just warp off... they appear in distant space and when i warp back i still maintain control.

just please make it so i dont have to select them to return home first for them to go to distant space...

its not that easy.. you have to fly really close to drone and scoop them in the drone bay to get them back... but for some reason when they appear in distant space (only way to do this with non fighters is to select recall to drone bay and while they are flying back to you you warp away) and then warp back to grid they then appear in local space and you have full controll over it.

its not like with probes where you can just select reconnect to them anytime you like...

edit.. sry wrong button, will edit for feedback... -.-

It's possible on Sisi now \o/ Haven't tested much drone stuff so good to see it added. Not currently available on TQ.