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Anjerrai Meloanis	Posted - 2005.12.25 16:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Anjerrai Meloanis on 25/12/2005 16:38:59 Please define, i cant actually figure out what one is. It seems that if a player just for one second starts to make isk in Eve he/she is a carebear, even if theyre making isk to most likely pvp. I spend alot of time making isk, but half the time i have to stop half way through and go get blown up/blow something up when ebil's come along. Am i a Carebear for making isk to pvp? It seems the pvp'ers who have sold tech II bpo's and have billions of isk in their wallets are the ones who flame anyone who has to make isk, heh. uh.
Drayco	Posted - 2005.12.25 16:50:00 - [2] Edited by: Drayco on 25/12/2005 16:51:00 well i always thought a carebear was someone that hated pvp and cried about griefers. since someone is flaming on someone for making money too fund pvp isnt that like the Pot calling the Kettle black???... Anjerrai no worries on your part if you blast people and have fun at it thats your account play how you like. dont let someone else tell you what your doing is wrong... i make my isk by taking stuff off other ships player and npc alike and sell them off or grind the junk into mins.
Jogyn	Posted - 2005.12.25 16:51:00 - [3] A carebear to me is a guy who is in a bs after 1 month and thinks he is better then everyone else.
sesanti	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:03:00 - [4] I believe a carebear is someone who whines a lot to have the game mechanics change to his own liking, be it a pirate or a miner. Miners are specially noisy because many of them believe that eve should be a consentual pvp game where u can mine 24/7 even in low sec. and not get attacked by anyone. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Drayco	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:19:00 - [5] Originally by: sesanti I believe a carebear is someone who whines a lot to have the game mechanics change to his own liking, be it a pirate or a miner. Miners are specially noisy because many of them believe that eve should be a consentual pvp game where u can mine 24/7 even in low sec. and not get attacked by anyone. thank god for CCP on that.... i like the fact i can drill a ship in a astroid belt rather then drill a rock.
Irashi	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Jogyn A carebear to me is a guy who is in a bs after 1 month and thinks he is better then everyone else. You're confusing 'carebear' with 'noob', There's no way you can fly a battleship properly after a month, you're asking for a swift death. Anyway, I think people generally define a carebear as someone who only ever stays in high sec and makes reasonable money without any risk whatsoever then complains when they do step into low sec or get war decced and subsequently blown away. Others will call anyone who has a sec status above -2.0 and makes money though any means other than piracy and pvp as a carebear. It's really personal preference... It's still overused no matter which way you define it __________________________________________________
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:30:00 - [7] Edited by: Ras Blumin on 25/12/2005 17:31:30 I've got/read a lot of "definitions" for the term carebear; A person who avoids pvp at all costs. A person who whines instead of adapting. Someone who is making cash outside of pvp ( ie. when I'm ratting in 0.0, I'm "carebearing", nothing wrong with this, you need isk to pvp =) ). A person with waay too much cash who suck at pvp. p - l - u - r
Mantar Mattox	Posted - 2005.12.25 18:22:00 - [8] And I quote: "The Care Bears' ultimate "weapon" is the Care Bear Stare, in which the collected bears stand together and radiate light from their respective chest symbols, combining to form a ray of love and good cheer which could bring care and joy into the target's heart." Carebear is now a derogatory term the refers to someone who stands for hugging instead of fighting. (Aka anyone who wants to get rid of PvP in one way or another) _________________________________ --Even samurai have teddy bears and even teddybears get drunk--
slapp	Posted - 2005.12.25 18:32:00 - [9] check my sig ------------------------------------------------------ CAREBEAR, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in CCP affairs has always been dominant and controling.
Mantar Mattox	Posted - 2005.12.25 18:37:00 - [10] Originally by: slapp check my sig What DOES CCP stand for anyways? Carebear Corporative Power? _________________________________ --Even samurai have teddy bears and even teddybears get drunk--
Alex Kynes	Posted - 2005.12.25 19:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Mantar Mattox Originally by: slapp check my sig What DOES CCP stand for anyways? Carebear Corporative Power? Crowd Control Production. -AK
Drasked	Posted - 2005.12.25 19:56:00 - [12] someone that cares about losing stuff in a video game
Alex Kynes	Posted - 2005.12.25 20:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Drasked someone that cares about losing stuff in a video game Oh please! Don't you care about losing your ships, your precious little weapons of chaos and destruction? I know I care about my ships. No ships, no loot, no fun. -AK
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Anjerrai Meloanis Edited by: Anjerrai Meloanis on 25/12/2005 16:38:59 Please define, i cant actually figure out what one is. Ikvar. Perfect Example.... Hides --------------------------------- Insert Rant about Forum Mods and Sig Nerfing Here
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Mantar Mattox Originally by: slapp check my sig What DOES CCP stand for anyways? Carebear Corporative Power? Crowd Control Productions. --------------------------------- Insert Rant about Forum Mods and Sig Nerfing Here
Norach	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:19:00 - [16] I see "carebear" used alot in the forums. I think this thread sums up that this word is used so much its meaning isnt clear. A good example - "lol" this means NOTHING anymore... Nothing to say? then lol
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:29:00 - [17] I think a carebear is a person that thinks others have no right to interfere with his gameplay. Should someone try, they will lobby to get the game mechanics changed.
Zarithas	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:31:00 - [18] Edited by: Zarithas on 25/12/2005 22:31:32 A carebear is someone who despises PvP, whines about certain griefing/PvP features, and basically only does PvE or other boring things (aka mining, trade routes, etc.) as a living. If you mine or do trade routes from time to time, but PvP, then you're almost definitely not a carebear. A carebear is someone who just plain skips every PvP aspect of a game, and whines when they get attacked/killed in some sort of PvP-related way.
Corsarul	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:42:00 - [19] My first opinion about Carebear was : a good ppl ,a right player surounding by holy light
Norach	Posted - 2005.12.25 22:46:00 - [20] lol, but seriously. I basicly see : Carebear : Miner, trader, etc, perhaps some PVE. Basicly, the opposite to a pirate, and just as a note "Carebear" call pirates "griefers". Hmm there seems to be a divide in eve, just me?
The Clash	Posted - 2005.12.25 23:25:00 - [21] Most of those "die-hard" pvp'rs have a "carebear account" .... that term is euhm well .... _________________ You can suck my battleship.
terrifiedkiller	Posted - 2005.12.26 00:52:00 - [22] carebears are all the whiney babies that hate pvp and cry so bad they think about suicide when they get thier ship blown to bits (maybe podded as well) yet hang out in low sec systems when all thier troubles could be prevented by staying in a newb corp in .5+ (cant get invovled in wars while in a noob corp)

Abdalion	Posted - 2005.12.26 01:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Deja Thoris I think a carebear is a person that thinks others have no right to interfere with his gameplay. I think that this statement sums up "carebear" perfectly. --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

HUGO DRAX	Posted - 2005.12.26 03:39:00 - [24] And want to turn this game into guildwars but in space. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.12.26 03:43:00 - [25] Hmmm, are there any forum carebear? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Zavernus Hamarabi	Posted - 2005.12.26 04:52:00 - [26] I think a carebear is just like the noun. Happy fuzzy player that doesnt want anything to do with being ebil, just wants to mine and trade. I blame society for making carebear some different weird meaning :/
Tony Fats	Posted - 2005.12.26 05:54:00 - [27] A carebear is one who does not accept that in the game there should be risk, and seeks to have the game mechanics changes so that they can mine/trade/whatever with no risk of non-consentual interaction with other players. A miner who accepts that he can be stolen from and uses every measure to prevent it, is not a carebear. A trader who accepts that he can be caught, destroyed, robbed, ransomed, etc and uses every measure to protect himself from that fate is not a carebear. A "fighter" who categorically refuses to enter .4 to avoid any player interaction is a carebear, even if he drives a Raven and does level 4 missions.
Saerid	Posted - 2005.12.26 08:57:00 - [28] Comes down to risk tolerance and how people react to risk. - Low risk tolerance. Specifically risk created by other players - Lobbying to have the said risks removed Would sum it up in my book. ISK and making it has nothing to do with it.
Revan Bloodmoon	Posted - 2005.12.26 11:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Alex Kynes Originally by: Drasked someone that cares about losing stuff in a video game Oh please! Don't you care about losing your ships, your precious little weapons of chaos and destruction? I know I care about my ships. No ships, no loot, no fun. -AK talking bad about the precious little weapons of mass destruction will make the explosive gods mad
Drunken Santa	Posted - 2005.12.26 13:35:00 - [30] What's a carebear in the real world? A cuddly, fluffy little bear thing. Often with a heart on its chest. In Eve? The same thing, really. Minus the fluff.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.12.26 15:35:00 - [31] My 5 ISKs on Carebears. Carebears are ppl who wants to play solo in a MMO environment. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Hadrian kadath	Posted - 2005.12.26 20:42:00 - [32] Ok, so I learned a new term. But what exactly is wrong with avoiding pvp? People pay for the service, not to mention the amount of real world time it takes to make isk in this game. If someone doesn't want to engage another player it's their right. I'm thinking that people who do a lot of pvp have been playing the game for quite a long time and have loads of dough, or have mommy and daddy pay for their account.
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.12.27 00:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Tony Fats A carebear is one who does not accept that in the game there should be risk, and seeks to have the game mechanics changes so that they can mine/trade/whatever with no risk of non-consentual interaction with other players. A miner who accepts that he can be stolen from and uses every measure to prevent it, is not a carebear. A trader who accepts that he can be caught, destroyed, robbed, ransomed, etc and uses every measure to protect himself from that fate is not a carebear. A "fighter" who categorically refuses to enter .4 to avoid any player interaction is a carebear, even if he drives a Raven and does level 4 missions. What he said. Basically somebody who would like CCP to soften the consequences of, or altogether eliminate, the interaction with other players (usually the consequences of non-consentual combat) If a player stays in high-sec and is happy about it, he is not a carebear; the 'whining' component is an essential part of carebearism. A -5.0 pirates whining they cannot enter high-sec space is a carebear; he is whining about the consequences of interacting with other players. To the original question: making money has nothing to do with being a carebear, although a lot of the time 'carebear' is used as an insult to 'high-sec space industrialists, miners and agent runners' (in the same way 'griefer' is used as an insult to pirates; incorrect use of both 'carebear' and 'griefer') Barriers - an EVE novel
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2005.12.27 01:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Mantar Mattox And I quote: "The Care Bears' ultimate "weapon" is the Care Bear Stare, in which the collected bears stand together and radiate light from their respective chest symbols, combining to form a ray of love and good cheer which could bring care and joy into the target's heart." Carebear is now a derogatory term the refers to someone who stands for hugging instead of fighting. (Aka anyone who wants to get rid of PvP in one way or another) lol actually in the game carebear is the BEAR(older players with huge skills) that CCP is protecting in terms that new players can kill them its mechanics of the game is designed to give huge benefits to olger players.that is a carebear.my opinion tho.
Agricola Augusta	Posted - 2005.12.27 03:11:00 - [35] Carebear = someone who hates PvP and believes all PvP is griefing and want's the game mechanics changed to suit thier "carebear" style (non-PvP). Know a Carebear by the fact they believe most PvPers are griefers or bad people, in game and real life.
Mira deVorsha	Posted - 2005.12.27 05:31:00 - [36] Here is the defination I believe Carebear means. It initially started in Ultima Online. It was a group of players who were sick to death of being PK'ed. So they created a guild called the carebear guild. It was all newbie staight off the rack characters. They would then swarm a PK'er who would slaughter them. Each kill would penalise the player so they would drop more if they died and due to the large numbers, even though they could kill a load fast eventually they would run out of ammo/regents and would be swarmed by newbie characters. So they would take the actual combat out of the game for the other players. It got dirty later on because they would use any trick to stop PK'ing. One trick in UO was to get 30 or so people to log a GM call against a PK'er because if that many logged a call the GM would remove and sometimes ban the player (1 account is better then 30 accounts leaving). The most common (across all games) is whining and whining about the same thing over and over to get some aspect removed that removes any danger of them getting attacked by another player. But it generally refers to anti-pk type players that use/exploit game mechanics to stop PK'ers.
Vaedian GER	Posted - 2005.12.27 10:05:00 - [37] Edited by: Vaedian GER on 27/12/2005 10:05:31 A carebear is someone who likes the World of Warcraft PvP Style. Loose nothing, instant respawn, re-attack 30sec later. Additional what Tony said.
Ashraaf	Posted - 2005.12.27 11:22:00 - [38] Mixing with Deja and Tony definition A carebear, is someone who avoid difficulty everytime "at all cost" He could be a pirate, but only if the victim could not fight back.... He goes for mission, but only on high sec, level 2 mission with a raven and an alt in scorpion... I dont't "carebear" has a way to PvP or not. A carebear could go for PvP, but only in the best PvP corp/Alliance and only in 3 to 1 fight. Other time he has to go swimming, teach grammar to his little sister... I know lot of producer/trader who were far from carebear attitude, and some who are "the carebear"
Mahara	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:32:00 - [39] As I understand it from reading these forums, "carebear" is a term used by vicious murdering scum to describe anyone who is not.
Efulefu	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:43:00 - [40] In other MMORPGs I was familiar with carebear being used to describe anyone who went out of his way to help out noobs, but this is definitely not the definition used by most of the people in EVE. Etymologically though, it makes more sense...
Sykosys	Posted - 2005.12.27 22:49:00 - [41] A carebear is someone who will whine about dieing instead of learning about why he died and adapt. Having no intrest in PVP does not make someone a carebear. Its when they whine about being killed instead of figuring out why, and try to change the entire game just so that they will never have to change the way they play. And Complaining about dieing to lag is another story however, that just sucks. PVP (space combat) is a way of eve. My hauler gets attacked I A. Target back and activate multiple ECM jammers to try and warp out B. Try to run and hope he doesn't have a warp scram, otherwise back to A C. Activate web and warp scram of my own because I was baiting him since I know he can't resist a mammoth.....Mmmmm smartbombs 4tw, of course the 2 BS in the adjacent system on standby helps as well SYKOSYS _______________________ "She'll fly apart sir," "FLY HER APART THEN!!!"

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