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MrPops
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Posted - 2003.08.19 07:03:00 -
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Why not have it so that when you rent an office spot at a station you get a deed for it?
This deed can be the contract of ownership between you and the corporation that owns the station.
This deed could be used to sell or trade office spaces with other people. A simple trade of the deed using the current system will allow to pass ownership to another person or corporation and assume the cost of rent.
Right now there are many spots in the universe that are prime property. This can become a hot realestate market and people can buy their way into a good location or owners of extra offices in those "hot" areas could make a beefy profit.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expand our perspective so we can see what our true reality is."
Deep toughts by Mr.Pops, while consuming large quantities of Blue Pill and staring at the EVE gate in Genesis.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2003.08.19 07:23:00 -
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You can already buy and sell offices now that corps can unrent them. There's no actual item to trade, but corp A pays for an office that corp B has, corp B unrents it and A rents it right away.
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MrPops
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Posted - 2003.08.19 07:33:00 -
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You can do that but it's open for scams. There is no way to securely trade for ownership.
Corp A pays B to unrent spot for them, corp B takes your money and doesn't unrent spot followed by multiple "lol".
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Corp B unrents spot for corp A, corp A rents his spot and doesn't pay corp B, corp A keeps your money followed by multiple "lol" and celebrations of their new office spot.
A secure way to trade for office spots would be a great feature and it could open up a brand new market.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expand our perspective so we can see what our true reality is."
Deep toughts by Mr.Pops, while consuming large quantities of Blue Pill and staring at the EVE gate in Genesis.
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.08.19 09:00:00 -
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Here is an even better one:
A sells office to B. A unrents office and C (A's buddy) rents it before B manages to. This is what I like to call the Pythagorean Scam.
There is also a Quadratic scam involving X and all the usual players, but we wont get into that.
-Othnark
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MrPops
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:39:00 -
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That's another possibility. This is the reason it would be nice to have a secure way to trade office ownership.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expand our perspective so we can see what our true reality is."
Deep toughts by Mr.Pops, while consuming large quantities of Blue Pill and staring at the EVE gate in Genesis.
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:48:00 -
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I disagree completely. The office isnt yours to trade. Its just like the whole mess of people selling factory slots way back when. It was horrible....
-Othnark
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Prof Shminky
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:49:00 -
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Actually, it makes NO sense at all that a station that is kilometers in size has only 16 offices...
Solution is to just do the same thing with offices as factories and research slots. Add more and if you don't use it, you lose it. (And all the stuff in the corp hangers gets impounded)
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Giblette Riddell
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:54:00 -
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I disagree completely. The office isnt yours to trade. Its just like the whole mess of people selling factory slots way back when. It was horrible....
With you there. Office space is a fundamental requirement for the growth of the game. The current shortage means new corps are scuppered right from the start.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:56:00 -
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What shortage? We currently hold 70 offices and find more on a daily basis. We even unrent some when we've got doubles, that office display sure could use a workover...
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:57:00 -
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Pardon the ignorance, but what do Office's do?
I've never ran or been part of a Corporation, nor do I have any aspirations to do so, therefore I have little idea as to the workings of one.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:58:00 -
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They allow you to store things together with the rest of the corporation, you needn't be there in person to hand it over.
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Prof Shminky
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:00:00 -
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Offices allow a shared storage area accessible by member of the corporation.
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MrPops
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: MrPops on 19/08/2003 19:41:12
My idea is not meant so a corp can go out there, buyout all the offices all over then sell them for a profit. If CCP were to implement a secure office ownership trade system, CCP would also have to limit the ammount of offices a corporation would be able to own. I think it would be nice to get rid of some of my extra offices via a "realstate" market and be able to make such transaction in a secure way.
This system can also be implemented for when player owned bases come out. A base owner can sell deeds for rent contracts. This allows the owner to choose who he wants to sell a spot to and trade the deed to the buyer.
"The human species suffers from a dimensional limitation. They are not able to understand that matter and mind are just one aspect of something more fundamental. We must strive to expand our perspective so we can see what our true reality is."
Deep toughts by Mr.Pops, while consuming large quantities of Blue Pill and staring at the EVE gate in Genesis.
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Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:39:00 -
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Danton, thats why there is a shortage of offices, corps like your with 70 offices, wtf do you need 70 OFFICES FOR? thats right you dont. At most you will need 10 offices, even for a really large corp spread out, id accept 20 for a mega corp like TTI but you have no need for 70 thats just griefing. Thats right, I called it griefing, because you are taking all those offices YOU DONT NEED, you are preventing new corps from renting them out at all, you may not have a problem as you have your 70, it took me 3 days to find 1 free office, I had to check a totyal of 32 systems, every station in each system, and I found only 1 free office in that whole area. There were 1 or 2 man corps with about 2 dozen offices FFS, they have no need for that many, just like your dosent need 70.
I belive that they should be tied to your skills, you can only have 2x the lvl of your corp management skills in offices, that in addition to the origional suggestion would at least make it easier for new corps to find offices, and to change offices over to another corp when you do a merger would be easier then too.
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Prof Shminky
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Posted - 2003.08.19 19:47:00 -
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Good suggestion there, tie max offices to skill of CEO.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/08/2003 20:32:32
What do your corporation need 40 battleships for? That's right you don't, it's one of our end goals to be represented in every system, if we pay 700+k a month why shouldn't we?
It's not like we're out there hunting them down like dogs, just casually renting a few every other day, you not getting any must just be you being lazy or damn picky, stop blaming me for your shortcomings.
We've recently unrented offices in Vaere, Villore, Hevrice, Ekuenbiron and Raneilles if you needed any pointers.
I'm all for rent being dependant on location and services provided here, we're not picky and will make due with some limited service station just to be represented but think that should be reflected in the rent we pay, this working both ways of course.
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