I am trying to understand the game mechaninc behind this. I was LFF in an incurion and got invited to a fleet. First hint is that it was another Basi that invited me. We warp out to planet and lock each the up. The second i begin repping him a ship warps in and them suddenly turns red. I did not reveive a warning that the Basi was at war. I suspcted this was a trick but was counting on the warning that the Basi was in a War to clue me in. I just dont understand what happened here.

I did fail to mention that about 20 minutes before this event I was invited to another fleet and again the BAsi and I started locking and repping. I did revieve a War Dec warning on this basi and accepted it. I then got nervous and left the fleet and hid where the aggression timer could time out. What happend after that is in the previosu paragrahp except i did let the agression timer runout before I engaged.

This has become a hting and lots of basi's are going down.


This was all in High Sec

*cough* bullshit.
Just admit it, armor is "safer" than shield only because armor is so paranoid that they'll ban you if you just sneeze the wrong way.

But yeah ... join the safer and moderated channels, BTL PUB, BTL armor, The Ditanian Fleet.
They've blocked most known griefers/gankers and similar accumulated over 10 months.

It won't block out alts and various NPC corps, so when you get fleeted. Check the fleet member's corporation.
If they are all members of the same corp or same alliance, you have a hint there. If they are members of some known griefer corp or merc, you have a hint there.
Last thing, check some of their killboards. Usually most of them have ton of logi ganks on killboards from other various incursions from the previous days

Just use your logic, just like griefers are.
It's the cat and mouse game here, only thing is. The mouse is earning sooo much more isk <3

How exactly was this made possible and why would someone war dec for a logi kill?

Sad really, i though this kinda **** ended decades ago.

Not to mention the questionable personalities of some of the higher ups in TDF, especially carmelos53, the "witch hunt" bannings that frequently get the wrong party, and general state of paranoia make being in TDF a rather negative experience.

Alt? This is Slimy's corp. We could have stayed in NPC corps, but this one was funnier :)

The funny thing is people think those bans are effective at all. Good luck rooting out my deep-cover alts with those witch-hunts.

I've been watching TDF for days. The bans are worthless feel-good measures to keep our mains off the list so people feel safer.

We'll get to TDF when the time comes. We haven't been *kept* out, we've simply stayed out.

tbh if you wanna gank anything, gank an incursion fleet because they can fight back

and if they don't give a **** about learning agression mechanics so be it

Rep/Transfer mechanics are just the beginning. We have something in the works that will make our previous 45b in kills pale in comparison. No matter how much you complain, no matter how many game mechanics CCP "fixes", we will find a way to kill you. We don't have to be good at pressing f1, but we WILL be good at all the things leading up to it.

My advice to anyone we've ganked or anyone we will gank in the future is to learn the game mechanics. Learn the game mechanics and fight back. You have more than enough firepower and logistic support... not to mention off-grid boosters etc. Stop leaving your incursion-mates to die at the hands of horrible people like me. Stop being stuck up about how "shiny" you are and how crappy the raven pilot next to you is. The real difference between us is that we shoot squares on our overview and never leave our buddies hanging, while you shoot pluses and trash your own fleetmates. Flame all you want but you know I'm right.



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But...we're shooting the gunboats, too.

Forget game mechanics, literacy should be your priority.

Ok, let me lay this out for you because you clearly do not have the brainpower to assemble a proper counterattack to our well known strategy.

1. Post an incursion fit but actually fly a PVP fit ship.. and then join our fleet. It doesn't have to be shiny. We'll shoot anything.
2. Have a bunch of logi buddies on stand-by to swoop in and save you.
3. I'd go with an armor ship.. you may be able to free up a couple mid slots for multiple points.. I.e. 2 warp disruptors
4. Tie 2 of us down and kill us
5. Run to the forums
6. ?????
7. Profit?

What I've done here is give you a valid tactic to use against us. I realize I have done this (Not an edit). I also freely give out info on which comms we use and IPs etc.... I've done everything for you but shoot myself.... lets see what you do with this information.... "Tard"

Oh and BTW, I've come up with about 10 more ideas on how to go about killing us if I were you. I will not post these for you to use but instead I would hope that you can come up with an original idea. I'll be looking out for traps... but that doesn't mean I won't spring them on purpose. Make sure any attempt to kill us is well executed and you'll have my respect.. until then, l2p

I just think its funny that you guys are so lazy in game that rather then find a ship to fight against you scam a logi that can't fight back. I get things like hulkagedon are fun but that even still takes work to track targets down. Your seriously just being sad and lazy. Get off your butts and go scam or gank someone properly. People in eve these days might as well just go play wow if your going to continue phoning in your efforts at space chaos like this....PICK IT UP PEOPLE!!!

(Rolls eyes) Just go to 0.0/low sec? i run incursions to do something different and make some isk when things go a bit quiet/ changing corp, even if you ganked 3 or 4 of my logi id still be in profit.

Il make this reason...12.... no 11.... why everyone except gankers feel sorry for gankers. join a real PvP corp and go toe to toe, not playing through game mechanics

The most hilarious part of this is all the innocent people who have been added to the blacklist due to social engineering. Even if you are an innocent incursion bear you too will eventually be banned.

send us a billion isk or we dec you