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MissBee
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:53:00 -
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I think most welcome changes to 0.0 space and/or sovereignty. What does concern me is too much being done in one go. The last changes to anoms proved to be counter-productive so hopefully the lesson should have been learnt; touch base with and liston to the playerbase prior to making such changes.
NPC space is fine 'as is' for the moment (apart from adding a few stations to some regions), the priority is SOV mechanics & space. Get that right, then make changes to NPC space.
Oh, and sort out Drone Space properly. Enough of it held back within CCP by one person ideal *cough* and get it more in line with other 0.0 sov regions as bang per buck and enjoyability is concerned.
Whatever you do, DON'T try and change SOV & NPC space at the same time. You WILL f*ck it up!! |
Caulk H0lster
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:56:00 -
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What changes exactly are you talking about?
There have been lots of SUGGESTIONS for what should be done to balance 0.0, but as far as I know, CCP hasn't stated what exactly, if anything, they are doing yet.
Ninja edit: Also, the anom nerf was pretty necessary, as literally any system with the right upgrades installed was a literal isk fountain. It was easy to pull in multiple billions every day running sanctums non-stop. Titans running sanctums could easily make 200-300m per hour running them half (or completely) afk. Now they can still do that in systems with low enough trusec, but alliances have to balance letting titans blap it up all day vs. letting other guys get some isk making time. |
Amro One
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:56:00 -
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MissBee wrote:The last changes to anoms proved to be counter-productive
Did your Bots get nerf'd
U mad Bro?
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Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.10.28 15:59:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with drone space.............. you just need more bots.
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MissBee
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:02:00 -
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Amro One wrote:MissBee wrote:The last changes to anoms proved to be counter-productive Did your Bots get nerf'd U mad Bro?
Are you an imbecile? Honestly, I get more sense from my 6 month old puppy.
Adding enjoyability to the Drone regions is hardly a necessity for bots is it? |
MissBee
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:06:00 -
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Caulk H0lster wrote: Ninja edit: Also, the anom nerf was pretty necessary, as literally any system with the right upgrades installed was a literal isk fountain. It was easy to pull in multiple billions every day running sanctums non-stop. Titans running sanctums could easily make 200-300m per hour running them half (or completely) afk. Now they can still do that in systems with low enough trusec, but alliances have to balance letting titans blap it up all day vs. letting other guys get some isk making time.
Making such drastic changes to the way anoms spawned in upgraded systems based on sec level withouth touching on the playerbased wasn't 'pretty necessary'. Fair enough it should be looked at, but the changes have reduced nullsec to wastelands in <-0.5 systems.
If you think the way to sort out Titans completing sanctums amazingly quickly is by reducing the number of anomolies in systems then you should think again. Maybe sorting out Titans and their gun tracking (ability to have tracking enhancement) should be the answer....... |
MissBee
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:10:00 -
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Satav wrote:There's nothing wrong with drone space.............. you just need more bots.
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"Your Erebus is docked? How the hell did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing..."
Actually, it's harder to bot in Drone Regions than any other.
The majority of anti-DRF comes from xenophobic idiots that assume anyone in the drone regions is Russian. Gotta love the yanks for being xenophobic! |
Caulk H0lster
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:16:00 -
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IIRC, when CCP made the sov changes in Tyranis or whatever expansion it was, they specifically stated that they were going to make the anoms based on upgrades so that smaller corps/alliances would be able to upgrade systems and have a fighting chance against bigger alliances.
What happened?
Bigger alliances still just came and evicted the smaller alliances and corps, so they could control the territory and not even bother to upgrade it. CCPs idea to give the little guys a chance backfired big time because of the new sov mechanics giving an insurmountable edge to superpower alliances.
Then the superpower alliances just exploited the game mechanics to upgrade a few systems and run anoms with supers and titans.
So CCP nerfed anoms, because re-working the entire sov mechanics were not realistic at the time because 1. CCP was obsessed with Incarna, and 2. The sov mechanics are still relatively new, and I think some people at CCP were having a hard time admitting just how flawed they are.
I welcome some changes to sov mechanics, but I still think the anomoly nerf was justified and necessary. Besides that, truesec had become a non-important stat for most people (unless you were belt ratting), and they once again made it important. |
Caulk H0lster
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:18:00 -
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:we were ganked:
lol CCP, your new forums are TERRIBLE. |
MissBee
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Posted - 2011.10.28 16:51:00 -
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These were the expected consequences of the anom nerf:
"Expected consequences GÇóSome alliances will immediately start wanting to look for better space GÇóIn the longer run, there'll be more conflicts going on, with more localized goals GÇóNewer alliances will have an easier time getting a foothold in nullsec GÇóCoalitions will be marginally less stable GÇóAlliances will have to choose more carefully what space they develop, where their staging systems are, and so on (low truesec systems generally tend to be in strategically inconvenient places) "
1. Not really. 2. No conflicts to do with anom nerf. 3. LOL - Nope. 4. If it's strategic, it's strategic and the system will be used. The ISK investment whether it's a good or bad system for anoms doesn't matter.
The reasoning behind the changes were fine (i.e. the expected consequences), but the changes implemented didn't do the job.
If you want to increase PVP, do the following:
Restrict the number of blue standings alliances and corps can have. |
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Sub Prime
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:20:00 -
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It was and is a shambles. The changes didn't meet any of the deliverables at all. Basically a complete failure.
Lesson #1
Communicate with the community before implementing changes. Honestly, how can a few people in CCP think they be as objective as the community overall?
Lesson #2
Slowly slowy catchy monkey! What's with all the speed to do things!! Lots of changes aren't apparent until later, so chill and do things gradually! |
baltec1
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:35:00 -
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MissBee wrote: Actually, it's harder to bot in Drone Regions than any other.
The majority of anti-DRF comes from xenophobic idiots that assume anyone in the drone regions is Russian. Gotta love the yanks for being xenophobic!
No it comes from finding nothing but bots in the drone lands. |
Sub Prime
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:MissBee wrote: Actually, it's harder to bot in Drone Regions than any other.
The majority of anti-DRF comes from xenophobic idiots that assume anyone in the drone regions is Russian. Gotta love the yanks for being xenophobic!
No it comes from finding nothing but bots in the drone lands.
LOL - where exactly? |
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