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Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:05:00 -
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+1 size does matter |
Leto Atal
LoneStar Industries Comatose Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.18 18:12:00 -
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and while they're at it reduce the size of the Machariel. |
Harlon Cordarii
The Black Ops Northern Associates.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:13:00 -
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+1
Epic space game must be more epic! |
Soldier Forrester
Dragon Clan Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2013.11.19 13:20:00 -
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I like the idea to increase the size, but then they won't fit in the station hangar. Stations should be increased too, inside and outside! |
Simc0m
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
76
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:51:00 -
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Soldier Forrester wrote:I like the idea to increase the size, but then they won't fit in the station hangar. Stations should be increased too, inside and outside! Carriers will still easily fit inside the station, I can say this confidently because CCP passed out supers on sisi once and the supercarriers fit in the hanger no problem, so if carriers are increased in size what supers are currently I don't think there would be an issue with them fitting. I do think that the point about stations being too small is valid though, but I would rather see them prioritize fixing supercarriers and carriers before they move onto stations. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1144
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:04:00 -
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Simc0m wrote:Soldier Forrester wrote:I like the idea to increase the size, but then they won't fit in the station hangar. Stations should be increased too, inside and outside! Carriers will still easily fit inside the station, I can say this confidently because CCP passed out supers on sisi once and the supercarriers fit in the hanger no problem, so if carriers are increased in size what supers are currently I don't think there would be an issue with them fitting. I do think that the point about stations being too small is valid though, but I would rather see them prioritize fixing supercarriers and carriers before they move on to stations.
While carriers will fit inside the station, I defy you to get them through the undocking ramp.
A naglfar inside a Gallente station, on the other hand.. that's an entirely different situation. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
88
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:01:00 -
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This would be nice "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
414
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:24:00 -
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I fully support this idea. My future cap fleet should be big. RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE |
Takashi Jin
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:47:00 -
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and freighters.... since they now move even more like a lumbering whale then ever... they might as well at least look big. |
novellus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:34:00 -
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+1 do want |
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:00:00 -
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General +1 to this idea.
Silenciel wrote:Hummm, if carriers would be resized, then... stations need too !
Personnaly, i found that stations are really undersized, too. (And especially, commercial hub stations)
So true. I've seen that recently in a YT-video from the Serenity server, where hundreds of dreads undocked from the flimsy Minmatar Trade Post. They nearly engulfed the entire station. Amazes me how awesome these stations are at compressing ships so that they fit into the interiors. [:D]
Quote: While carriers will fit inside the station, I defy you to get them through the undocking ramp.
A naglfar inside a Gallente station, on the other hand.. that's an entirely different situation.
So true, try to fit a Nag through the undock slopes of Minmatar stations or into the Gallente Military Station. It's just ridiculous to imagine. [:D]
Also, while larger carriers still fit into the station hangars, the camera has to be adjusted. During the mentioned event on Sisi you could not see your entire Aeon even when zoomed out to max. If ship model sizes increase, the zoom level of the hangar camera has to be increased as well. |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:55:00 -
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I would suggest that in Order to rescale everything, instead to increase their size, decrease the size of Drones, Frigs, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Battleships, but leave capitals, stations and gates at their current size! |
Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
49
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:08:00 -
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Malikai Larios wrote:there could be a "super station" pos made for 4-4, the station is already pretty embedded into eve lore, might as well make it stand out as well.
^This.
As far as carriers, yep.... kinda underwhelming :( The Law is a point of View |
Simc0m
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:18:00 -
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Lephia DeGrande wrote:I would suggest that in Order to rescale everything, instead to increase their size, decrease the size of Drones, Frigs, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Battleships, but leave capitals, stations and gates at their current size! In an abstract sense, I agree with this idea. Granted, even if this was implemented Carriers and Supercarriers would still be too small relative to dreads/titans. Practically speaking though re-sizing everything is probably not feasable - due to the amount of work required. I'm under the assumption that re-sizing something involves a non-trivial amount of work considering how long it has taken to fix the size of carriers/SCs even after years of threads like this one garnering literally universal support. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
217
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:39:00 -
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Cael Autumn wrote:Complete re-do of the scales in eve.
I wouldn't mind this, as like a side project. |
Zepheros Naeonis
TinklePee
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:47:00 -
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+1
I always thought the ship scaling was off. Especially when you consider the HP points between say BS/Carrier and Supcap/Titan. |
Sylvous
Bigger than Jesus
129
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:07:00 -
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+1
By no means a small task for the art department, but would certainly bring in a better level of realism if supers and stations had more realistic sizes. Would also go a long way to making the game feel grander. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
218
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:46:00 -
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What do you guys think about cross sections? [/derail] |
Dantes Wolf
42 LVL's of Infinity SQUEE.
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:04:00 -
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Same, my Chimera needs size too.
"Before you diagnose yourself with low selfesteem and depression, you should first make sure, that you are not just, in fact, surrounded by assholes".
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Fourteen Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:06:00 -
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The scale of ships is kind of lost on me to be honest, I read somewhere in the lore that a Blackbird has a crew of hundreds which is incredible because cruisers don't really give that impression, and frigates look to be about the same size as a large car. It would be nice to have a bit more information on crew sizes etc in the description, even if it had no bearing on in game mechanics it could be a stat on your kill board; crew members lost under your command, enemy crew members killed
It wouldn't be much use as a metric at first glance but it could maybe give an indication of the size of ships you fly in, and the size of ships you've been killing. Someone with a lot of blood on their hands and comparatively low isk destroyed has been targeting t1 Battleships and cruisers etc, and someone with low amounts of crew killed and comparatively high isk destroyed has been getting a lot more kills against smaller but more advanced ships, someone with a lot of kills but low isk and low crew kills has been getting a lot of t1 frig kills etc, maybe it could go even further and every time you hit a ship in structure your killing a proportionate amount of the crew, so even if a ship escapes in structure you have something added to your kb, and in gang fights the people who don't get hits on structure don't get any crew killed. This will create another metric that helps differentiate between km whores and solo/small gang pilots. |
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Simc0m
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.28 00:44:00 -
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Leto Atal wrote:and while they're at it reduce the size of the Machariel. They actually reduced the size of the machariel about a year ago, it's now in line with the sizes of other battleships. I used to complain on these forums that a machariel was as big as a supercarrier. Instead of fixing the supercarriers they nerfed the size of the machariel. :/
It was a good change though, the machariel was like twice as big as the other battleships. |
SickSeven
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.28 01:59:00 -
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I brought this up years ago as others did. Kinda shocked it hasn't been fixed in the 2+ years I have been gone.
I mean we get these gorgeous new models (Vargur, I'm looking at you) but they couldn't even bother to just scale up the existing carrier models? |
Seranova Farreach
Lion Squadron
454
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Posted - 2013.11.28 05:18:00 -
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how about letting supers and titans dock up in station/pos so you dont have to be superglued into your super or titan taking away from all the fun you could be having ganking haulers in highsec or hot dropping people in lowsec ;p |
Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2013.11.28 06:10:00 -
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The Orca needs brought up in size a bit as well, in fact it should be (or nearly be) the size of Carriers now. Then bump Carriers and SCs bumped up a size.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2560
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Posted - 2013.11.28 06:18:00 -
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+1 Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
306
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Posted - 2013.11.29 20:02:00 -
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SickSeven wrote:I brought this up years ago as others did. Kinda shocked it hasn't been fixed in the 2+ years I have been gone.
I mean we get these gorgeous new models (Vargur, I'm looking at you) but they couldn't even bother to just scale up the existing carrier models?
I think the first time it came around was when dreadnoughts were introduced.
The ships all need rescaled badly. Regular carriers should actually be battleship sized, and not have huge hangers. Super carriers should have been much, much bigger though.
The Most Interesting Player In Eve. |
Oberine Noriepa
1366
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:04:00 -
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This needs to be done. |
Jack Cassidy
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
11
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:27:00 -
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This definitely needs to be done. And to have more of a sense of scale why not have people working on or around a ship in the station hangar. Thus you can see just how big a ship is. |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
1016
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Posted - 2014.01.23 03:50:00 -
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If any CCP read this, one important thing.
Cap ships are supposed to be the signature to nullsec warfare, which is supposed to be the "big draw" for every starry eyed noob wanting to take on the world.
So they hear about these awesome ships that take years to properly skill into and use with an alliance, they get so excited about it...
then they see one.
barely bigger than the battleship they already fly, not scary/imposing, or really anything (hell in this regard even titans could have a looksy loo at a slight size increase)
Capital ships LOOKING badass, especially from the POV of a frigate, is important, because the most likely person to be in that frigate is a noob, who you want to be impressed with the game. subcaps should FEEL tiny next to even carriers, like midgets on a unicycle in a fight between giants. |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
1016
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Posted - 2014.01.23 04:04:00 -
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Seranova Farreach wrote:how about letting supers and titans dock up in station/pos so you dont have to be superglued into your super or titan taking away from all the fun you could be having ganking haulers in highsec or hot dropping people in lowsec ;p Supers/Titans can dock in stations once outposts are completely destructible, you cna have multiple per ssytem, they are modular and fully upgradable, and your required to have "docking" arrays that can hold 1/2 (depending if on-station or extended arm) that must be equipped (at the expense of defensive or offensive or utility modifications), so the supers can eb seen from space while docked to encourage attack |
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