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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 19/08/2003 15:55:37
It seems that the whole of internet is having some troubles at the moment. (Another virus cluttering it up?) A bunch of people in #eve-online have been doing traces for the past few hours and people are getting packetloss, bad routes (netherlands->nyc->london in my case for example). I just thought people should be aware of this before assuming CCP messed something up again :)
You might be getting "server node dropped" errors while the connection issues are not totally in CCP's domain. Also since CTDs have been linked with connection issues, a lot of the more recent CTDs might have something to do with this.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:21:00 -
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I was wondering why I CTD 7 times in the last hour 
thanks for the post Yatar
This is not a hijack
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:21:00 -
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That pesky internet again. Someone please beat the end guy so we can restart it.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Roba on 19/08/2003 15:28:04
LOL, I lost a b-ship to these CTDs.
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Ubiq
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:24:00 -
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In game you can open a server status/packet in/out window thingy. Can't rember the key to open it.
Use it.
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Drachir
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:25:00 -
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I'm getting routed from London > USA > London.
very odd.
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:28:00 -
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Yeah it does that every now and then, something's messed up in London. 
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Jahbulon
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:31:00 -
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I still think it's something to do with the last patch. There's definitely a clear link - see below:
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 19/08/2003 15:34:05
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I still think it's something to do with the last patch. There's definitely a clear link - see below:
ROFL (4 f****ng characters and I still make a typo.. sigh)
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:35:00 -
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In game you can open a server status/packet in/out window thingy. Can't rember the key to open it.
Use it.
can u please try remember how u open it?
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ROFL
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:39:00 -
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I believe it is Cntrl-Alt-F12
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 19/08/2003 15:39:10
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In game you can open a server status/packet in/out window thingy. Can't rember the key to open it.
Use it.
can u please try remember how u open it?
If you really want to get a detailed view of how your connection with the EVE server is, you could try Ping Plotter using 157.157.139.1.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:46:00 -
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http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:47:00 -
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Quote:
http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/
Don't forget to turn off your Pop-Up blockers.
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Abbadon
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:26:00 -
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For more detailed info on Internet response etc...... http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:31:00 -
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For more detailed info on Internet response etc...... http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm
Hmm, interesting. Especially the 30day graph for the packetloss clearly shows an increase.
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Sparta
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:32:00 -
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It could be as simple as heavy internet traffic or the MS Blast Worm attacks.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:51:00 -
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I haven't had any problems on chaos with losing connection to server. I'm guessing the servers (as they are in different locations) are being routed through different places.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 19/08/2003 17:03:55
The internet traffic report isn't terribly reliable I'm afraid. A better indication of problems is LINX.
https://stats.linx.net/cgi-pub/combined?log=combined.bits
Edit - oh and there aren't any major problems in London, nor have there recently been.
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Quince al'Pillan
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:04:00 -
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http://www.internethealthreport.com
Also this site is good as well.
Looks like AT&T at Tampa Bay is having some serious lag issues.
-Q
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MindBender
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:12:00 -
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People Stop blaming the internet and virus' for problems that are obviously server side on CCP's end. I am so tired of people sticking up for CCP on these issues that it is no longer funny. I can understand a game having connection issues at release but 4 months after release the game platform should be stable. If you truly want insight to the problem read my post in the CTD thread.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=27099
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Yatar Kindoki on 19/08/2003 17:23:24
I'm not trying to stick up to CCP, nor am I trying to give the internet/virus as the cause of all our troubles. The mere fact that connectivity problems cause CTDs is proof of bad netcode. Ofcourse I'm still making big assumptions here.
But anyway, me and some other people noticed a parralel between increasing connectivity problems to london and more and more people getting more CTDs. It makes perfect sense. Ofcourse there were more CTDs right after the patch but it's been getting worser today.
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Nexos II
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:23:00 -
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ctrl-alt-F12 is the combo for the ingame network-monitor
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Yatar Kindoki
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:42:00 -
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The internet traffic report isn't terribly reliable I'm afraid. A better indication of problems is LINX.
https://stats.linx.net/cgi-pub/combined?log=combined.bits
Edit - oh and there aren't any major problems in London, nor have there recently been.
Those stats do indeed not show anything peculiar. However, if you would do a bunch of traceroutes to the EVE server you will notice a certain amount of packetloss building up until the point where one of the routers at LINX decides to use an NYC route. Then everything resets and it'll work fine for another 5 minutes or so after which the PL starts building up again. People in the UK and other aprts of Europe have been getting this, not sure what's happening on the other side of the ocean.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:51:00 -
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C&W don't use LINX - they in fact don't seem to peer with anyone. I used LINX to demonstrate that there's not some worm destroying the internet OK?
I see no packetloss or problems until it hits the cluster, at which point ICMP requests are ignored for perhaps 30% of the time. This indicates a very very busy machine. In itself this wouldn't be an issue to unduely concern anyone, but it indicates the problem lies either in the C&W infrastructure (unlikely as we'd have heard about this from CCP by now), or the server cluster itself.
Oh and as for it getting worse - has anyone stopped to think just how many "maintenance" downtimes there have been in the last 2 weeks?
At the end of the day if it was a network problem then I have no doubt at all that CCP would have stated this.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:54:00 -
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Appearantly it's a router problem in London. Taurar posted that this was said in IRC :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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plur
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:04:00 -
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odd, im not getting these issues with other games.
pretty selective is this extra traffic from the worm... are you sure it wasnt supposed to DDOS CCP and not ms update?
its server side, whatever it is, otherwise we would be getting these problems with other websites, with other games, and we arent.
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MindBender
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:08:00 -
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CCP can blame it on a router if they like, however in all my time in the industry I have NEVER seen it take over 24 hours for an ISP to replace a bad router, especially a backbone router. This problem has been ongoing for over 2 weeks. Might be worse the last few days but the problem has been ongoing. I think CCP is simply trying to put the blame somewhere else.
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Turtle on 19/08/2003 18:15:23
I have not had any CTD at all in the last few weeks. Today the interent is slow for me in total. I took a look at my incoming traffic and am getting hit to the tune of 100 plus times a sec, all looking for port 135.
I don't know what is causing CTD's for people but with this type of traffic it is only going to make it worse. I run a hardware firewall so my computer never see's the traffic. I would think anyone running a SW firewall with this type of activity would be in trouble. Reason, your computer is using processing time to block every attack.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:34:00 -
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CCP can blame it on a router if they like, however in all my time in the industry I have NEVER seen it take over 24 hours for an ISP to replace a bad router, especially a backbone router. This problem has been ongoing for over 2 weeks. Might be worse the last few days but the problem has been ongoing. I think CCP is simply trying to put the blame somewhere else.
Why don't you stick a sock in it and wait a few days for this virus stuff to blow over. If there's still major CTD issues and you're entirely positive it's not your computer or a crummy internet connection on YOUR end, I'll give you an isk for your troubles.
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