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culo duro
The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
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Posted - 2013.08.22 08:55:00 -
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So hang on... OP you want to play Eve solo, and that's why we should have a ton more systems, so you could go and play solo in an mmo?
Also to actually be constructive about this. You said +10000 systems. What would those systems include? What would be special abut?
And +5k WHs? As far as i'm concerned half of the current ones are empty if not more.
So basically the thing you're suggesting is that everyone should have their own system? I'm just gonna say i'm not going 2000 jumps to get to jita and sell my stuff.
This plan does not seem very well thought. |

Prince Kobol
881
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:00:00 -
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Lateris wrote:From the last Fanfest. CCP Presents: EVE's five year vision Senior Producer Andie Nordgren spoke about EVE's plans for the future in a very clear manner all throughout Fanfest, and in CCP Presents she gave a run-down of the new approach CCP is taking to development. Normally EVE goes from expansion to expansion without much in the way of long-term direction, and the vision of the future of EVE changes beyond all recognition on an almost annual basis. Now developers have a five-year vision for where the game is heading and why, a three-year roadmap for how to get to that vision, and a 12-month plan for specific development of features. Because of this new process, the crazy far-future ideas on space colonisation and building your own stargates presented in yesterday's EVE keynote are more likely to actually make it to the live game than previous big visionary ideas. They're part of the five-year vision that the entire EVE development staff is getting behind, so it should be only a matter of time before true space colonisation becomes a reality. When it does, we'll be able to build stargates aiming into the unknown and settle completely new solar systems. Also part of the five-year plan is an investigation of immersive flight and combat in EVE, which could potentially bring more twitch-based controls to the game. Source
If you believe any of this will happen then I salute you sir  |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
308
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:24:00 -
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culo duro wrote:So hang on... OP you want to play Eve solo, and that's why we should have a ton more systems, so you could go and play solo in an mmo?
Also to actually be constructive about this. You said +10000 systems. What would those systems include? What would be special abut?
And +5k WHs? As far as i'm concerned half of the current ones are empty if not more.
So basically the thing you're suggesting is that everyone should have their own system? I'm just gonna say i'm not going 2000 jumps to get to jita and sell my stuff.
This plan does not seem very well thought. Yeah like you have to a) go to Jita b) jump anywhere even in deep null more than one or two jumps to Jita with bridges
Also its impossible to play an MMO solo. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
2617
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:36:00 -
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Lasikia wrote:How many years will we have to wait for some new space to be added? For space to be so vast and infinite you cant do 2 jumps in any system in eve without tripping over someone. Where is the exploration? the far reaches? why isn't the outer rim 500 jumps from empire instead of 4 jumps in a carrier. Not sure how many years its been since WH space was added but we need about 10x the space this game currently has to give it anywhere near the feeling of what space is actually like. Incursions were nice, we need a TON more stuff like that, and also.... Jovians? The non existent figment of our imagination that we will never actually see ingame. bullet points
- +10k new systems in K-space
- +5k new WH's
- Make C4's not suck.
This is a good start.
Have you seen every bit of space in every solar system that is out there now? Do you know where every site is? Have you found all the hidden easter eggs?
I didn't think so.
Go get off your lazy ass and explore that space we already have!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
84757
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:38:00 -
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Psssst I found a Route into Jove Space....
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38525
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:42:00 -
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Alexa de'Crux wrote: The problem with making a 'larger' game world is that it will eventually become cumbersome; players will get separated by larger and larger distances, and most of it will be wasted space.
Nope.
EVE players have a magnetic 'habit' of finding each other and causing massively destructive chaos. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38541
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:The issue is not that there's too little space, theres a hell of a lot of it. You could put every subscriber of EvE into one system equally separated with a triple mwd dramiel (warp disabled) and they would all die of old age before even one of them found another without warp.
What game are you playing ?
There are ~5200 systems in EVE as Known Space.
And with 450,000 subscribers, an equal distribution would be almost 86 players per system.
Even with the login max of ~55,000 at a given peak time that's 10 players per system.
Stop Poasting just to be poasting. |

thorgil
Salvag. INC FEDERATION SOLARIS
6
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:49:00 -
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Big alliances should be able to build their own stargates, and players should be able to hack them to see what's going on in deep space. And i'd like super-stargates leading randomly somewhere in w-space. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38541
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:49:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Also its impossible to play an MMO solo.
My 5 Bill ISK a month wallet severely begs to differ. |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
255
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:50:00 -
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War Kitten wrote: explore that space we already have! Exploration sucks huge donkey dicks. Stupid ******* containers popping out of the god damn ******* wrecks. Who thought of that bullshit? **** fuck **** exploration. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
443
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:53:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Why? Most systems are deserted. Or borderline. What we need is a reason for people to leave high-sec.
No, we don't. If people want to play that kind of game, CCP will let them, because CCP is a business and it can't survive without subs. There are already enough reasons to leave high-sec if you want to. There are plenty of reasons to stay if you don't. |

Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
230
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Posted - 2013.08.22 13:19:00 -
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I agree with OP that the Eve map feels tiny, cramped and overcrowded. Especialy Caldari space and low sec apart from Blood Raiders. But even in null ther's traffic almost everywhere during EU prime time. It only feels about right to me in the early morning hours (evening/early night hours for US players). But issue is only partially caused by lack of space in some regions it's also travel times. How long does it take to travel from one side of the map to the other jumping gate to gate? Maybe 1.5 hrs? |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
308
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Posted - 2013.08.22 14:06:00 -
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Johan Toralen wrote:I agree with OP that the Eve map feels tiny, cramped and overcrowded. Especialy Caldari space and low sec apart from Blood Raiders. But even in null ther's traffic almost everywhere during EU prime time. It only feels about right to me in the early morning hours (evening/early night hours for US players). But issue is only partially caused by lack of space in some regions it's also travel times. How long does it take to travel from one side of the map to the other jumping gate to gate? Maybe 1.5 hrs? I did Amarr to bottom of PB then PB to To Stain 3 times today. Didn't take that long. People are just lazy. Maybe an hour or two. Granted I had a nullified T3 but still.
There should be reward for effort not oh effort, CCP please make it super easy. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1307
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Posted - 2013.08.22 14:40:00 -
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William Walker wrote:War Kitten wrote: explore that space we already have! Exploration sucks huge donkey dicks. Stupid ******* containers popping out of the god damn ******* wrecks. Who thought of that bullshit? **** **** **** exploration.
Sir, you are being too kind about the new exploration introduced in the last 'expansion'.
One can only hope the person who came up with it has been locked behind a station door (in null-sec) and told that they can only come out when Walking in Stations is released in an acceptable form.
Grab a can if you can. Bah! This is not a signature. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38565
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:13:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:William Walker wrote:War Kitten wrote: explore that space we already have! Exploration sucks huge donkey dicks. Stupid ******* containers popping out of the god damn ******* wrecks. Who thought of that bullshit? **** **** **** exploration. Sir, you are being too kind about the new exploration introduced in the last 'expansion'. One can only hope the person who came up with it has been locked behind a station door (in null-sec) and told that they can only come out when Walking in Stations is released in an acceptable form. Grab a can if you can. Bah!
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Cyber SGB
Bionetic Creations
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:58:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Also its impossible to play an MMO solo.
My 5 Bill ISK a month wallet severely begs to differ.
Let me know when you log into EvE Online and you are the only player in the game. I write Kindle books. Visit my author page. http://amazon.com/author/sgbynum |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
2623
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:04:00 -
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William Walker wrote:War Kitten wrote: explore that space we already have! Exploration sucks huge donkey dicks. Stupid ******* containers popping out of the god damn ******* wrecks. Who thought of that bullshit? **** **** **** exploration.
No no no, don't play that crappy excuse for a reward mechanic loot-splosion crap.
Actually go out and explore. See the sights. Take pictures of things. Them blow them up.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Sarton Wells
Blackmoon Ltd.
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:08:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:The issue is not that there's too little space, theres a hell of a lot of it. You could put every subscriber of EvE into one system equally separated with a triple mwd dramiel (warp disabled) and they would all die of old age before even one of them found another without warp.
 What game are you playing ? There are ~5200 systems in EVE as Known Space. And with 450,000 subscribers, an equal distribution would be almost 86 players per system.Even with the login max of ~55,000 at a given peak time that's 10 players per system.Stop Poasting just to be poasting.
I don't think you understood him. He said all subscribers in one system without warp drive. Each system is several AU long in every direction. So it would take hundreds of years before anyone meets anyone. Obviously warp speed changes that. But the problems is not the size of the universe (and the current EVE universe is insanely big). The problem is how empty it is. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:12:00 -
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Space IS empty, what is wrong with that? New CQ prototype |

Sevena Black
The Black Redemption
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:25:00 -
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I dont see the need for new space. There are currently alot of systems, each with their own characteristics. Some are moneypits, others chokepoints, some just random spots where fleets meet and dish it out. The jc and jb making space small is another thing I dont believe. Without those, certain regions become difficult to manage, leading to fewer players there and more peeps in easy access systems. Making EVE smaller. As it is now, certain areas are already "reserved" for alliances with heavy logistics capacity. Which is fine, but I'd like to keep it to a minimum where possible.
I would like exploration to be more extreme. Perhaps an intance created to a WH system which collapses when you leave (no POS ability etc). The effect is pretty similar to a high-sec mission instance, but a little more about "unknown space". Others being able to jump in and ruin your day will have to be part of it tho. No point of it being in EVE otherwise (imho).
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38579
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:27:00 -
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Cyber SGB wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Also its impossible to play an MMO solo.
My 5 Bill ISK a month wallet severely begs to differ. Let me know when you log into EvE Online and you are the only player in the game.
That's actually happened right after downtime a few times. In fact. It happens to someone every single frikkin' day.
I winz. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
38579
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:30:00 -
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Sarton Wells wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:The issue is not that there's too little space, theres a hell of a lot of it. You could put every subscriber of EvE into one system equally separated with a triple mwd dramiel (warp disabled) and they would all die of old age before even one of them found another without warp.
 What game are you playing ? There are ~5200 systems in EVE as Known Space. And with 450,000 subscribers, an equal distribution would be almost 86 players per system.Even with the login max of ~55,000 at a given peak time that's 10 players per system.Stop Poasting just to be poasting. I don't think you understood him. He said all subscribers in one system without warp drive. Each system is several AU long in every direction. So it would take hundreds of years before anyone meets anyone. Obviously warp speed changes that. But the problems is not the size of the universe (and the current EVE universe is insanely big). The problem is how empty it is.
Thread itself has gotten confused. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
210
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:39:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Cyber SGB wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Also its impossible to play an MMO solo.
My 5 Bill ISK a month wallet severely begs to differ. Let me know when you log into EvE Online and you are the only player in the game. That's actually happened right after downtime a few times. In fact. It happens to someone every single frikkin' day. I winz.
He meant rather when only you log after downtime and strangely there is noone in eve beside you for like eternity, and you can delightefully contemplate the silence... So good... New CQ prototype |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3700
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:45:00 -
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Iiiiiiiiiiiiii... ...have a GREAT... ...aQAAND I MEAN GREAT!!!!!!.... ...idea!!!!!!!!!!!!
We make all systems... ...AND I MEAN AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL THE SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!!!!.... ...except wspace... ...HIGHSEC!!!!!!!
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Spurty
945
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:51:00 -
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Why new space when most of 'null' is 'empty' guy?
If Regions only had 5 systems, 1 x System would be full of people (docked up) 2 x Systems would only have the odd isboxing ratting / mining dude who logs out the moment a non-blue enters local 2 x Systems would be so terrible, even the rats avoid them (Rental agreements available).
Now, scale up (but keep that formula) and this is why we don't need more.
We need the ones we have made 'betterererer" ; so doing any activity outside of Null would seem so ridiculously bad a waste of your time / isk per hour that you are laughed at a lot harder and longer for being found in high sec, than losing a ratting raven once a week
People fear change and big wallets. --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
80
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:54:00 -
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The universe is srhinking m8 The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1833
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:19:00 -
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I think the real issue here is that local needs to be removed.
*Flees the site of the now-wrecked hornet's nest* Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1652
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:43:00 -
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I would only buy the idea of adding more space if it was along the lines of my Great Idea #208:
- Empires expand into new unclaimed space. Players slowly raise truesec from 0.0 to 0.5, at which point the system becomes hisec and players earn the possibility to nominate a viceroy to rule the system for profits.
But then, that wouldn't fix the issue that most players stay in hisec for very good reasons and CCP pretends to ignore that and keeps hisec as a permanently underdeveloped kindergarten rather than deliver some adult-EVE-ish gameplay specific to it.
Which could be my Great Idea #403:
- Politicracy, a political clientele card game where interactable NPC are the cards and player generated PvE content both WiS and FiS are the effects of the cards. Player interacts with agents to obtain points to spend setting up missions to affect other player's agents and missions, or even his individual and corporate status to hisec NPCs (fai, to convince a empire Navy to shoot on sight of your enemy's war targets).
But, more space? With most nullsec wasted and most lowsec losing the race for population density against Greenland? With most WH experiencing an average of 0.7 player interactions per day?
We don't need places so people go to find gameplay. We need gameplay to go where people actually is. Rather than build more empty pools, CCP should just dig the kids pool deeper. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

PhatController
Mum Rider Alliance Silent Elites Inc. Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:56:00 -
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There is already plenty of space, and lots of it empty. I don't think you could cover it in 4 jumps of a carrier either..... I can't see any good reason to add new space when half of the current space is empty and unused. |

Omega Tron
26
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:26:00 -
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Well folks here is my 2 ISKs about why null and low sec have very low populations. Simply put you go there you get blown up and sent back to your medical clone location. When the prevailing behavior of the folks out there changes or CCP makes changes that reduce the "get blown up" to say a one in 6 chance. Well then I think you'll actually see that empty space not being so empty. EVE Online is CCP's sand box. -áThe sand is owned by CCP. -áWe just get to pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other. -áGet over your thoughts that you have some influence on what they will add or do for you. |
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