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Milos Oberonov
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:41:00 -
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They said before that names like serpentis and other EVE side names like that where on a list you couldnt use, like a banned word list.
What if he called himself 'Serpentls'? That'd be a judgment call, I guess.
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will one day plow for those who don't." -T. Jefferson |
Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:47:00 -
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Take a good long look at that screeny, just in the top right there, on the top of his drone bay.
Did you name your ship "Improved Thorax IV"? Or have you got a tech 4 thorax? Just wondering.....
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EzTarget
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:48:00 -
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All I can say about this is - SOUNDEX
A very nice function that reduces peoples name into number, then if you mis-spell someones name it can find it easyily. I've used it in numberous databases before, so I know it works.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:49:00 -
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Guessing it's the name of his ship.....
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:53:00 -
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Did you name your ship "Improved Thorax IV"? Or have you got a tech 4 thorax?
 cant tell ya you was not supposed to see that, damn!
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:54:00 -
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Zakura,
You and your corpmate are morons if you think you will or even SHOULD get your ship and equipment back. It isn't difficult to tell the difference between a player and a pirate. Just look at the symbol on your HUD!
I applaud Serpentis Patroller for his cunning. In my view, there is nothing wrong with it.
Cao Cao
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:56:00 -
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Zakura,
You and your corpmate are morons if you think you will or even SHOULD get your ship and equipment back. It isn't difficult to tell the difference between a player and a pirate. Just look at the symbol on your HUD!
I applaud Serpentis Patroller for his cunning. In my view, there is nothing wrong with it.
Cao Cao
- You are not your ship -
ok...
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:58:00 -
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Hell I've seen loads of people doing this. People even do it with the cops' names. Admittedly I haven't seen anyone with an npc name for weeks....
I wouldn't have thought of it as an exploit as such - you aren't actually manipulating game mechanics in any way, you're just relying on finding enough people without a clue. I suppose it's a bit mean but surely you're allowed to be mean in this game? I seriously doubt you could get more than a couple of people a day to fall for this trick and given that they'd tell all their friends/corpmates it's got to be dying out? Or are there still loads of clueless people playing? Heh - maybe I'm clueless for asking that 
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.08.19 20:58:00 -
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It is wrong of him to have anything in his name which is in use already by the Eve universe.
He should have his name changed without hesitation.
However
The person or persons who lose ships to idiots who do this...
A: Be aware you are in a 0.9 system and the gate turrets are on steroids. If they fire first they would be dead before you.
B: If you forget you are in a 0.9 system, forget what the different icons for the NPC ships vs. PC ships look like, fear a weak NPC gate pirate (while you are in a Thorax no less!!!), feel the urgent need to fire, knowing you wont be able to gate for 60 seconds anyway......you are a fool.
I'm digging deep....real deep....coming up empty, no sympathy.
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Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:02:00 -
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Did you name your ship "Improved Thorax IV"? Or have you got a tech 4 thorax? Just wondering.....
btw, I didnt saw anything! lier!!
http://equinox.homelinux.net/public/uplfolders/upload6/piratelol.jpg
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:04:00 -
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yes i see this ****t today on my travel,i was in a scorpian and nearly VERY nearly fired back,looks strange as he started fly fast so i mwd towards him and showed info....didnt trick me ya lil git so look out peeps he is about
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:07:00 -
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back when shuttles were first put in
they had the same radar + as pirates
and ALOT of people with pirate names showed up
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:13:00 -
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Ahhh yes Enraku - that's what I remember seeing. No excuse for falling for it now really - there was then.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 19/08/2003 21:13:15
As I recall didn't someone have their name changed from ANTICHRIST to LOVING JESUS a few weeks ago (posted here about it - big thread)?
I think this would be another candidate for a namechange - how about CAREBEAR or HUMAN SHIELD?
This isn't technically an exploit because the game was designed to allow it. But from a "fair play" issue its a cheap shot. People who think up stunts like this are the same ones who pod players in 1.0 space with a -10.0 security rating because they know they can. They'll just think of another cheap shot when they get called on this one.
The EVE community is better off without them.
Calladen Nimitz
FAIRPLAY advocate
(These opinions are my own and not those of TTI)
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:13:00 -
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Hey Mods, do your job. Rule #11
Do not post about bugs and exploits.
Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/bugreporting.asp. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:17:00 -
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Aye Calladen but if you get rid of everyone who only believes in "fair play" then to be honest where's the fun? I want to meet devious tricky evil gits. Hell it's the absence/decline of them that is one of the reasons for me not resubbing - which reminds me that I need to talk to m0o to try and get this "Run the m0o gauntlet" event sorted. Damn I forgot all about it
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:17:00 -
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Hey Mods, do your job. Rule #11
Do not post about bugs and exploits.
Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/bugreporting.asp. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.
WEll this is not a Bug
And some guys here say its not an exploit
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:21:00 -
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 this is typical
u guys want this system of sentry guns and police. now live with it. there is no rules to use npc pirate near names. the name is checked by the server and if he accept it, no one can ban u for having this names. so if u posted something here.
i lost 4 ships now for slash damage to sentry guns. see me whining here ... buuh buuh *whining*
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:21:00 -
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This "player" is nothing but a griefer and should be banned for life on the spot.
TF
The LBC
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:22:00 -
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Aye Calladen but if you get rid of everyone who only believes in "fair play" then to be honest where's the fun? I want to meet devious tricky evil gits. Hell it's the absence/decline of them that is one of the reasons for me not resubbing - which reminds me that I need to talk to m0o to try and get this "Run the m0o gauntlet" event sorted. Damn I forgot all about it
Tricky is having a odule on your ship that your enemy didn't account for.....
Tricky is NOT using the same name as an NPC pirate in order to grief another player.
Regardless of the fact the icons for Pc and NPC are different, the intent is to grief.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 19/08/2003 21:38:21
Well Joshua you and I will have to differ here. People call ore thieves "griefers" but the devs disagree - and always have. The guy with this npc name could quite easily be one of the good guys on his main char, but he creates a throwaway alt to have some evil fun. His intent is to deceive, not to "grief", as it requires the player he's locked on to fire at him first. I have a simple rule that you should all follow - if in Empire space then never ever fire first.
In this instance I don't see how the char could last more than a couple of days - you'd be bored senseless and most people would just laugh at you. When the icons were different - ah now maybe, just maybe that was an exploit. Not now though.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:39:00 -
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Well Joshua you and I will have to differ here. People call ore thiefs "griefers" but the devs disagree - and always have. The guy with this npc name could quite easily be one of the good guys on his main char, but he creates a throwaway alt to have some evil fun. His intent is to deceive, not to "grief", as it requires the player he's locked on to fire at him first. I have a simple rule that you should all follow - if in Empire space then never ever fire first.
In this instance I don't see how the char could last more than a couple of days - you'd be bored senseless and most people would just laugh at you. When the icons were different - ah now maybe, just maybe that was an exploit. Not now though.
"Serpentis Patroller" has been around for a long time.
It was well over 6 weeks ago when Said Zerrouki suffered the same fate asn the guy mentioned here.
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Vierna Hu'Net
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:43:00 -
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Read the thread before you reply Ezra.
I did... If yo can't tell the diff between a pirate and a player... There ships dont even look the same....
Then why are we able to fly in Velators, Incursus, Tristan etc.etc.
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DATEK
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:47:00 -
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This sort of conduct is disgraceful. Something must be done about the griefers, cargo stealers, alt scammers, etc. It's a shame that some people get their enjoyment out of ruining the game for others. What's worse is that they are permitted to continue to do it without repercussion. Delete their character and ban them! I would really like to know why Tank CEO is still around after using a security rating exploit to fly around Amarr, a 1.0 system, blowing up innocent miners minding their own business for several days. How many decent honest players have quit because of griefers such as this? What a shame.
DATEK
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:50:00 -
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"Serpentis Patroller" has been around for a long time.
It was well over 6 weeks ago when Said Zerrouki suffered the same fate asn the guy mentioned here.
Is he the same one? If so then he probably should have had his name changed back when shuttle icons were the same as npcs. As I said that was maybe an exploit - depends where he "worked" - if you see what I mean.
Now though there is no excuse at all for falling for this - apart from when you are a newbie (and I mean first couple of days). Even then you get a warning before you fire so you have plenty of chance not to do it - anyway how the hell would a newbie know what a Serpentis Patroller was?
If he has been playing this char for all that time (and it's not an alt he logs into now and again) then you should all just have a bloody good laugh at him
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.19 21:51:00 -
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It has already been stated that using the names of NPC characters is not allowed, yes?
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Hampon Fastidious
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Posted - 2003.08.19 22:03:00 -
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Hahaha! I lost my thorax and pretty mods to this jag today, but I gotta say, that's hilarious. Chalk it up to my stupid mistake, and take the hit on re-insuring my new ship as a lesson to be more careful in the future.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 22:07:00 -
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DATEK : while not defending them, the devs have said time and time and time again that ore-stealing is not an exploit. In fact it's been intimated that mining into a jettisoned can is nearer an exploit than ore-stealing. You don't have to agree with people's morals but the game needs the evil side.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.19 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 19/08/2003 22:14:03
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Hahaha! I lost my thorax and pretty mods to this jag today, but I gotta say, that's hilarious. Chalk it up to my stupid mistake, and take the hit on re-insuring my new ship as a lesson to be more careful in the future.
Well I might be running an event this weekend where you could win the cruiser of your choice <shameless plug>. It'll have no entry fee and you can use a newbie alt char - basically a load of you run the gauntlet of a (proportionately sized) m0o blockade. First one through and to an agreed point wins a cruiser. Then you all (those of you that got through anyway) fight it out in newbie ships for a million Isk. Still negotiating with m0o at the moment as they have some justified security concerns about the event. I think we can get it sorted though 
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.19 22:23:00 -
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Need we any further confirmation that putting NPC pirates at the gates is ABSOLUTELY RETARDED??
"He was traveling in a 0.9 system, the guy lock him, and let me ask u, what is the first thing u think of when u see someone ôSerpentis Patrollerö lock u?
Of course u shoot back"
Wrong. You should always be aware enough of your situation to know which PC's and which NPC's are in an area.
If I'm at a gate, I don't fire back at anyone unless I confirm that it is indeed a player pirate. Then I have to be sure not to use missiles and smartbombs, etc.
Your friend was not paying enough attention to who was firing on him, or which player characters were in the area. You should *always* be aware of *every* player character around you. Move your mouse over their icon - it looks different from an NPC fighter icon - and get their names.
If you see a player labelled Serpentis Patroller you should pay attention.
Moreover, I cannot be sure, but it looks like this person may not have even been flying the same ship that Serpentis Patrollers fly. Another clue that could have tipped your friend off.
Another thing you should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS do is not to fire back until you are fired on first. That should be drilled home to every newbie before they leave the tutorial because it just causes endless pain and greif otherwise.
I must admit I was contemplating doing this. Was going to make a char named Guristas Arrogator, put him in a Bantam, and hang around the gates and lock people. Why? To show CCP how abso-freaking-lutely retarded it is to have these low level NPC pirates at gates. As I said in posts last week, all it does is confuse players, sometimes with dire consequences.
This situation is a case in point.
That said, it would be wrong to ban this guy. He broke no rules. Exploited no bugs. He took advantage of another players poor decisions.
I think we *should* have in game a method to disguise our ships as different craft to lure an unsuspecting foe closer - this of course, assumes the sadistic all powerful concorde doesn't come leaping all over the unsuspecting foe when he does open fire.
His name, should, of course, be changed and CCP should reserve those other names.
But basically, this situation was 100% avoidable by your friend if he had been paying attention as he should.
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