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Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:02:00 -
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The CSM is well represented by the major null sec alliances but the militias have no one to represent them in the CSM whatsoever. I propose each militia is represented by a respective chosen member, so that all 4 sides are heard equally. I know this will likely this will never happen because we're rock bottom to CCP as we are a hot potato to designers. However, even if it meant we had our own meetings to express community concerns and ideas. You don't have to fly people to Iceland and pamper us really. Some kind of video conference would be enough.
I was hearing some dev ideas to 'fix FW' but they aren't very good and are out of touch with the present If you want to get to truly fix FW you'll have to get help from us FW'ers to actually get anywhere. |
Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:09:00 -
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I think that there is one other problem: Isn't CSM voted? You just can't appoint 4 people to it. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:13:00 -
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Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.
4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:24:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.
4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.
Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community.
For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:31:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:Mekhana wrote:Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.
4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.
Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community. For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.
For that to work we need a FW game worth playing that might actually attract people. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:34:00 -
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It is something to think about yes. Time to start thinking big and talk loud enough for our voices to be heard. FW is all doom and gloom at the moment from being years in disrepair, few changes that came centuries late to even immense issues. hopefully though this changes a bit next expansion with the rebalance as it will at least freshen up the PVP considerably.
Time to put low sec and fun small-scale PVP back on the map. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
Not Usually Killing Everyone.
123
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:35:00 -
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New proposition:
Re-organize the CSM to have a designated member for each topic, null, low, high sec, WHs, FW, PVE, PVP, Industry, Market
The Drake is a Lie |
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:42:00 -
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Blog? Please?   |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:43:00 -
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The CSM as of today doesn't represent the community as of a whole, it only represents geopolitical agendas of individuals and alliances.
EVE belongs to all of us and everyone should be represented. |
Cunane Jeran
18
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:45:00 -
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I'd quite like to see people going on different tickets, for a more diverse CSM covering all areas of play. |
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Kent Reeves
Apollo Logistics
Sexy Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:45:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:Mekhana wrote:Each militia would vote for their representative. Plus other small details that would have to be agreed on obviously.
4 militias and 4 representatives. Nothing complicated.
Edit: I don't mean that the we need to be forced into the CSM I meant that the militias could use a similar and simpler means to communicate with CCP so that we can relay our own particular issues in the FW community. For that to work you need to rally people to vote for FW representatives for the next CSM.
Clearly, you missed the entire point of the post.
@Mekhana, rather than getting representatives chosen to speak to CCP how about a forum section dedicated to Factional Warfare. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:47:00 -
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@Kent Reeves
That would be nice as a first step. It would also help FW and our events get more exposure, that would attract more pilots as well. Everyone wins. |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:50:00 -
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Great Idea.
Nothing else that needs adding to be honest.
It'd work...
If CCP let it.
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BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:53:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:It'd work... If CCP let it.
but they wont because they have seen what some CSM can do with their position, they will have learned that much at least.
hell, we cant even get a blog after 2 + years why would they allow this?  |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:53:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Great Idea. Nothing else that needs adding to be honest. It'd work... If CCP let it.
GF btw :P |
Galus Mendak
Quantum Cats Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:57:00 -
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Kent Reeves wrote:CCP how about a forum section dedicated to Factional Warfare
Hear hear. Seconded. |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 02:57:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Great Idea. Nothing else that needs adding to be honest. It'd work... If CCP let it. GF btw :P
Wasn't a fight, lol...
The caldari fits are making my eyes bleed.
Definetly died a little inside looking at that scorp navy.
Great job bringing the numbers, though I doubt you'd of needed them to be honest.
On Topic; I have a question. Do we count EVERYONES vote, or do we count the active militia people (considering maybe 2% of the listed militia numbers are actually active PvPers, and aren't just carebear scrubs / inactive players). |
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:00:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:
On Topic; I have a question. Do we count EVERYONES vote, or do we count the active militia people (considering maybe 2% of the listed militia numbers are actually active PvPers, and aren't just carebear scrubs / inactive players).
Could do corp ceo's director's based on killboard standings vs enemy factions within say, 3> months? |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
250
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:02:00 -
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No idea. Odds are we'd have to all agree on someone to represent all the militias due to our current numbers. So we'd all have to sit down and dialog and try to find common ground on a very sportmanslike influential individual to represent us, someone who will look after the issues that plague FW as a whole and bring up issues from each of the militias. |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:06:00 -
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BoneEater wrote:Mystical Might wrote:
On Topic; I have a question. Do we count EVERYONES vote, or do we count the active militia people (considering maybe 2% of the listed militia numbers are actually active PvPers, and aren't just carebear scrubs / inactive players).
Could do corp ceo's director's based on killboard standings vs enemy factions within say, 3> months?
You mean CEO's of the top 10 corps of each militia vote for a rep? |
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BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:09:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:
You mean CEO's of the top 10 corps of each militia vote for a rep?
Top 10, top 5, doesnt really matter, but based on their actual pvp versus other militias rather then simple #'s due to the missionier swarms present in some of the militias. Or as posted previously, all 4 elect a single and alternate to represent the FW community as a whole rather then as independent factions? |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:11:00 -
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BoneEater wrote:Mystical Might wrote:
You mean CEO's of the top 10 corps of each militia vote for a rep?
Top 10, top 5, doesnt really matter, but based on their actual pvp versus other militias rather then simple #'s due to the missionier swarms present in some of the militias. Or as posted previously, all 4 elect a single and alternate to represent the FW community as a whole rather then as independent factions?
In my eyes, it should be Independant factions with representatives for each, that are able to sit around the E-Table and share ideas...
If you were to elect them as a community, you'd end up with the militia with the most voting power having their guys as the representatives. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
251
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:14:00 -
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That's true in fact. That's why I think we should all push for one candidate that we all could trust on. He'd bring forth issues that bog down Factional Warfare as a whole and follow a list of individual problems of every militia to tackle on. |
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:15:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:BoneEater wrote:Mystical Might wrote:
You mean CEO's of the top 10 corps of each militia vote for a rep?
Top 10, top 5, doesnt really matter, but based on their actual pvp versus other militias rather then simple #'s due to the missionier swarms present in some of the militias. Or as posted previously, all 4 elect a single and alternate to represent the FW community as a whole rather then as independent factions? In my eyes, it should be Independant factions with representatives for each, that are able to sit around the E-Table and share ideas... If you were to elect them as a community, you'd end up with the militia with the most voting power having their guys as the representatives.
True, so elect one from each, and then they internally decide a *chairman* in adition to the alternate canidates for each faction bringing the total rep's to 8 with 2 for each faction.
Possibly add an external position for indepent looks at idea's from an outsider's perspective? IE: if a happens, how does that affect recruiting into FW. if b happens, what happens instead?
dunno how you'd regulate that so its probably not going to work. |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:16:00 -
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Yarr, just making it a new post.
Could also make it so that there are 10 possible candidates, maybe from people who think they have a chance and are vocal enough to voice a faction's ideas, views and thoughts. From there you could have a week or two of open voting, maybe through the militia office (It isn't actually used for anything at the moment ANYWAY) and after that period the person with the most votes is elected.
To put the Militia office to more use, General militia could lobby ideas for the representatives to look at through a drop-box like option in the office window. This allows the reps to easily see the worries and queries that the militias they represent may have...
Could also maybe let the reps start a Poll through the milita office to see how the militia feels about a certain topic? |
Vardec Crom
Hard Knocks Inc.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:18:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:The CSM is well represented by the major null sec alliances but the militias have no one to represent them in the CSM whatsoever. I propose each militia is represented by a respective chosen member, so that all 4 sides are heard equally. I know this will likely this will never happen because we're rock bottom to CCP as we are a hot potato to designers. However, even if it meant we had our own meetings to express community concerns and ideas. You don't have to fly people to Iceland and pamper us really. Some kind of video conference would be enough.
I was hearing some dev ideas to 'fix FW' but they aren't very good and are out of touch with the present If you want to get to truly fix FW you'll have to get help from us FW'ers to actually get anywhere.
So what you're saying is that a group of people that make up probably less than 1% of active subscribers should get half of the CSM seats by default? Delusional~
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Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:20:00 -
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Vardec Crom wrote:
So what you're saying is that a group of people that make up probably less than 1% of active subscribers should get half of the CSM seats by default? Delusional~
We're not talking about the CSM...
Edit; as far as I am aware anyway. |
BoneEater
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:21:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Yarr, just making it a new post.
Could also maybe let the reps start a Poll through the milita office to see how the militia feels about a certain topic?
Without a clear cut way to establish a] missioners from pvpers, b] 0.0 alts/mains, c] god awful griefers and trolls/honest oppinions, this wont get very far. I think this is the main set of reasons CCP doesnt use their in game poll's more often. If they did, they would be swamped by trolls who would select the worst possible thing for the game, just to troll up that subject's #'s |
Mystical Might
The Imperial Fedaykin
12
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:23:00 -
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BoneEater wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Yarr, just making it a new post.
Could also maybe let the reps start a Poll through the milita office to see how the militia feels about a certain topic? Without a clear cut way to establish a] missioners from pvpers, b] 0.0 alts/mains, c] god awful griefers and trolls/honest oppinions, this wont get very far. I think this is the main set of reasons CCP doesnt use their in game poll's more often. If they did, they would be swamped by trolls who would select the worst possible thing for the game, just to troll up that subject's #'s
lol, I'm one of the biggest trolls in militia...
But I see your point, it could potentially be abused.
But I also think that the militia's worries as a whole would outway the trolling opportunity. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
251
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Posted - 2011.10.29 03:23:00 -
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Vardec Crom wrote:So what you're saying is that a group of people that make up probably less than 1% of active subscribers should get half of the CSM seats by default? Delusional~
First, not I'm making demands. This a discussion. Secondly, you haven't really bothered to read anything have you?
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