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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.27 22:28:00 -
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The alliances that hold the sov have worked hard and often had to fight another alliance for that sov. As long as they own it, they should be allowed to use the space however they want, even if it means renting it out. It's just like a real estate business. The people selling a piece of property to you don't necessarily have to be using it (that's probably why they are selling/renting it out in the first place).
The alliance renting out their space makes money, and the renters are able to live in nullsec without being tied down to said alliances. They an move in and do what they need/want to do for as long as they can pay for it. It's a win-win for everyone.
If an alliance doesn't want to rent out their space, they don't have to. Simple.
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:10:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:The alliances that hold the sov have worked hard and often had to fight another alliance for that sov. As long as they own it, they should be allowed to use the space however they want, even if it means renting it out. It's just like a real estate business. The people selling a piece of property to you don't necessarily have to be using it (that's probably why they are selling/renting it out in the first place).
The alliance renting out their space makes money, and the renters are able to live in nullsec without being tied down to said alliances. They an move in and do what they need/want to do for as long as they can pay for it. It's a win-win for everyone.
If an alliance doesn't want to rent out their space, they don't have to. Simple. this is a game btw, just pointing that out. So shall we now put in the eve trailers. "Eve is no longer a sandbox, your game is controlled by others sorry, if you want to go into nullsec, just kiss someones ass, pay stupid amount of isk for even the worse systems, these are thew new microtransactions, oh but we still expect your monthly fee. Play on one server, but remember the players that have been playing for years have control of everything and you wont have the same level playing field as they did when only 3000 ppl ws online" i mean lets be honest here...whilst we are at it.
Yes this is a game. Thank you for pointing out something that is obvious and has little relevance to the topic at hand.
You are making it sound like CCP is forcing people who want to go to nullsec to have to rent space. This couldn't be further from the truth. Stop pretending that it is because it makes you look really dumb.
Not only that, if people are unhappy with the space they are renting or feel they are paying too much, there are plenty of other alliances to rent from. If an alliance wants to offer renting, they have to make sure their deal stacks up against that of other alliances, otherwise they have no business.
It appears to me you lack a basic understanding of not only how this game works, but how basic economics do.
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:15:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Rhes wrote:Rekon X wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Highsec NPC corp guy angry about nullsec stuff. This is the intelligent posts we come to expect from goonpuds. Go back to your area, surrounded by your buffer of alliances protecting your carebear pod. Hide in your numbers cause you suck. You sound like you are mad about Goons. This post says it all. I have always wondered for years why any EvE player would join or even assist the CFC as by doing so they gain a reputation for incompetence and lack of intelligence. CFC only win by fighting 400 v 50 everyone in EvE knows that. CFC are fighting to gain all null sec moons. CFC leadership don't want to have good fights or fun content for its members or anyone else. They just want to spoon feed the members that its ok to fight 400 v 50 so that their personal isk increases. By helping the CFC you are literally destroying null sec for anyone who lives in it and most especially destroying it for the CFC members who will never know what it is to have a good fight, their future is sitting in 200 man gate camp on a high sec gate waiting several hours for a nube ship to jump in to null by accident. Anyone who doesn't realize that this is the future being fought for really is very stupid. EvE players are meant to be more intelligent then people who play other games but clearly the very large majority who are either in the CFC or assisting them prove that in fact that although a small minority are in fact very intelligent, the majority have a much lower then average IQ. Sad little goons. It really is pathetic.
It's really easy to tell when someone has never left hi-sec.
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:44:00 -
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Rhes wrote:
You copy/pasted that list even though there are entities missing from the "Known Enemies" section. I think you knew this and posted it anyway because you're so mad about Goons.
I think it's cute how he thinks he can outsmart us with petty attempts to conceal evidence.
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:48:00 -
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Rhes wrote:^^ You screwed my triple post  .
I so sorry 
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.28 19:53:00 -
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Lextron Saken wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:The alliances that hold the sov have worked hard and often had to fight another alliance for that sov. As long as they own it, they should be allowed to use the space however they want, even if it means renting it out. It's just like a real estate business. The people selling a piece of property to you don't necessarily have to be using it (that's probably why they are selling/renting it out in the first place).
The alliance renting out their space makes money, and the renters are able to live in nullsec without being tied down to said alliances. They an move in and do what they need/want to do for as long as they can pay for it. It's a win-win for everyone.
If an alliance doesn't want to rent out their space, they don't have to. Simple. "Worked hard". I think owning 210 systems and renting ALL of them out is barely any effort especially if no one attempts to take the system. It's effortless ISK being paid to an alliance, if anyone tries to take any of the systems blob them to death. CFC for example is too powerful and other coalitions refuse to fight them full scale.
Again, someone who has never left Hi-sec trying to talk about nullsec when they don't even know the basic mechanics of sov.
Think of it like mining an asteroid that needs 300 people to mine and still takes an hour to mine. Only all 300 of you need to mine it three times to get anything out of it, and you can only mine it once every 2 days. Then consider the fact that there are 300 other people that don't want you to mine it.
Then factor it in the fact you need to do this whole several times to take a system, dozens of times to take a constellation, and hundreds of times to take a region.
Do you see how it's hard work now? Taking and holding sov isn't as simple as putting a flag down.
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Fredfredbug4
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Posted - 2013.08.29 01:15:00 -
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I find it funny how the OP, Rekon, and their alts/ misguided supporters don't bother replying to anyone that proved them wrong and would much rather feed the people trolling them.
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