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Abdalion	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:05:00 - [91] Reopened. Please do not go all personal on each other. I may have missed some posts, will keep checking back. Some of you check your email please? And read the links included? --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:06:00 - [92] Originally by: Daxes i hope u know that after ATUK came into JU it was something like 120 BoB/ATUK vs 60-70 G/Iron while u had 50+ BS (alone 7 scorps) and we only ~17 BS. Not that i complain about numbers (next time we might have the odds on our side or simply get more ppl online) but u really cant expect us to make a suicide attack. Regardless of the numbers, Daxes, we commit to such attacks all the time - yet the one time we decide to bring up equal numbers there are TWO posts claiming our demise? It's laughable. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Logan Williams	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:07:00 - [93] Originally by: Metal Dude Emm, last I checked, ATUK was still part of BoB, so our Band of Brothers don't need to ask [5] for help. We help our brothers anytime we see fit. We are cool like that. Band of Brothers.........The Five. ATUK being part of BoB makes >perfect< sense, funny that the alliances are different. You used to be part of BoB before the IGA, now you guys are only there in spirit. As far as IRON being the worst IGA ever.....BoB has to be desperate. Last I heard, BoB stopped flying with ATUK because ATUK smacks too much. At any rate, NO alliance deserves to have an alt polluting the forums with this garbage. Go back to playing with your barbies.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:09:00 - [94] Originally by: Boonaki Why not leave it locked? Let's call this a heated debate at this point. --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

reaTh	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:09:00 - [95] Originally by: Logan Williams Originally by: Metal Dude Emm, last I checked, ATUK was still part of BoB, so our Band of Brothers don't need to ask [5] for help. We help our brothers anytime we see fit. We are cool like that. Band of Brothers.........The Five. ATUK being part of BoB makes >perfect< sense, funny that the alliances are different. You used to be part of BoB before the IGA, now you guys are only there in spirit. As far as IRON being the worst IGA ever.....BoB has to be desperate. Last I heard, BoB stopped flying with ATUK because ATUK smacks too much. At any rate, NO alliance deserves to have an alt polluting the forums with this garbage. Go back to playing with your barbies. how lil u no bout bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Current RKK Ranking: (MIN9) Zuvan
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:13:00 - [96] Edited by: Boonaki on 04/01/2006 00:14:41 Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Boonaki Why not leave it locked? Let's call this a heated debate at this point. Heated? Naw man that's in game, and caused by beam lasers, torpedos, arty, etc... This is some ***** that just gave the two sides a way to talk while ignoring the first post. Fear the Ibis of doom.
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:23:00 - [97] Edited by: theRaptor on 04/01/2006 00:27:17 Edited by: theRaptor on 04/01/2006 00:24:44 Originally by: Daxes Originally by: patch iron and g are the most pathetic ppl in game, you morons simply cant fight atall. We have pretty even numbers here and you run and hide, you simply cant fight, you wont ever get you space back, you dont have the balls to i hope u know that after ATUK came into JU it was something like 120 BoB/ATUK vs 60-70 G/Iron while u had 50+ BS (alone 7 scorps) and we only ~17 BS. Not that i complain about numbers (next time we might have the odds on our side or simply get more ppl online) but u really cant expect us to make a suicide attack. So plz refrain from flaming and i would again ask everyone in this thread to keep calm and remember why we play this game. Yes because most of you scapered as soon as you realised ATUK were incoming. When G/IRON first jumped in it was 90 of you vs 50 of us. And as they lag was so bad the only way to fight you was to blob back. I had to wait for fifteen minutes and then relog just to see you, and even then I only jammed the BS in my sig after several minutes of locking. Was way to FUBARed to use any real tactics. By which time I was dead because I was involved in an attack on one of your safes, in which I warped early and got killed before my screen loaded. Some how I got my pod out. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
Professor Utonium	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:29:00 - [98] I don't really have an opinion on the whole alliance fights other then they're interesting to read but I have a viewpoint into the G / Iron partnership that seemingly becomes a point of which to attack them on. Coming from a multi-ethnical guild of previous games the idea of sister guilds / alliances of vastly different playerbases (german & other - japanese & other in my example)have a valid place in the mmo genre. I can understand why the two go hand in hand, especially here in EVE. I'd wager if not for the language difficulties of a combined alliance chat they'd all just be in one big alliance already.
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:29:00 - [99] Originally by: CapCrunnnch Edited by: CapCrunnnch on 03/01/2006 23:23:38 So you swallowed your pride and were forced to ask [5] for help against G/Iron. Tbh [5] were as surprised as the rest of us watching from the outside but no one blames you as now you realise that G/Iron are too strong to be taken lightly. Now that you have been reduced from an alliance that used to make people beg for help to one doing the begging, can you confirm whether you will ask for even more help from others to hold G/Iron off? Sirmolle: We dont want to see anymore "I am the masterchef", "I have the spoon", "that is all" arrogant type of cheastbeating ever again. You've begged for help so can no longer maintain the stance that BOB or you are almighty. Just like everyone else, fight your wars and keep the chest beating on your own forums, because when you dont, and somewhere along the line you get your asses whupped (as we see up north) then you only end up asking for help and it makes you look pathetic - especially if 1n the same breath you start telling everyone how good you are or how big your spoon/cooking is. Our problem is not with BoB but with the man behind bob who beats his chest then hides away from tough questions. So to prove a point yet again, will someone in BOB with authority...preferably the 'master chef', answer these 3 simple questions that the whole of eve would like answered: 1. With BOB having to ask for help from [5], is it not now clear to see that G/Iron are are better and stronger than BOB and it is only a matter of time until BOB are sent back to fountain in defeat? 2. With BOB having to ask for help from [5], is it not now evident that you are weaker now than ever before based on the fact that 9 months ago you could do anything you liked and pwn anyone you wanted in EVE? 3. Will you confirm if the talk that the 30 or so members in BNC and RKK that are planning to split away from BOB and form another alliance due to discontentment, will happen now or after your war with G/Iron? Simple 3 questions, if Sirmolle or Db Preacher, Galavet, Dianabolic or Blacklight can answer them properly then maybe you can also dispell the rumours that BOB member morale is currently very low due to the fact that many of your pilots don't believe you should be up there fighting a war you can't win? Clear that up for everyone, thank you. Awesome post - I nearly fell off my chair laughing! So letÆs just check some facts about how we're losing so badly and how our extended road trip in the North has brought BoB to the brink of disaster. As it's been exactly one month I'll share some facts with you. BoB Road Trip Total Kills - 2476 BoB Road Trip Total Losses - 505 Our Kills include - 5 Dreadnaughts and 550 Battleships Road Trip specifically against IRON Kills - 837 Road Trip specifically against IRON Losses - 106 Our Kills against IRON specifically include - 2 Dreadnaughts and 106 Battleships As you can see we've killed more battleships than we've lost total ships, both overall and specifically against IRON. We won the Caldari event and we've moved our Capital ship programme on substantially with all the minerals we've mined in Deklein. So CapCrunnch you are absolutely right, we're a spent force that can't achieve anything! /still rolling around laughing! Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:35:00 - [100] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 04/01/2006 00:35:35 hired goon: "Let me just defeat your silly "OMG IRON + G = 2 ALLAINCES WTF HAX" whining. We are essentially one alliance. But for the language barrier and organisations' sake, we are two." hmm - if G rlly thinks Iron is the same(~?!) alliance?
EL TITAN	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:41:00 - [101] it must really be stinging now huh. so many days seeing BOB still controlling your outpost, the one you put BILLIONS into. haha so funny :) _________________________________________________ <3 hi
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:41:00 - [102] Originally by: Boonaki It may not be an IRON alt. Could be G, F-E, Ikvar, or Tomb. "Or Tomb" LMAO
Berneh	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:44:00 - [103] Can i be in this thread ? Twinkle Twinkle little star , can i macro your veldspar
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:45:00 - [104] And I would just like to say that the lag was a complete joke. Last night I went to the Caldari Prime memorial which had over a 100 ships all at the planet, and there was no lag just lowish framerates. Tonight in JU the server barfed so bad that most of the BoB fleet didn't see any enemies jump in for ten minutes, and even then most of us had to relog. I can only assume the same thing happend to G/IRON or else they would have slaughtered us at the initial jump in. And there was only about 80 or so ship's at the gate. CCP fix your damn code. Large number's of jump in's break client sync. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:47:00 - [105] Originally by: omgwhowasthatmaskedman Can i be in this thread ? No. Were you here? --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

Jin'Roh	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:54:00 - [106] Edited by: Jin''Roh on 04/01/2006 00:54:51 everyone says: fighting is fun, lets of have lots of fun fighting each other blablablabla when 2 fleets meet lag'em out guys!!11eleven put the bubbles up!1! tacklers hug the gate, battleships 120km away. make it so blabla result: no fun solution: meet in the same grid, wait few minutes. everything and everyone has loaded. fight you will have some lag, but much less like after warping/jumping into an enemy fleet. then you all have fun, everyone is happy. or not? cause the enemy can shoot back? and you cant pwn him on the forums after the battle? your descision jin
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.04 00:59:00 - [107] Originally by: Jin'Roh solution: meet in the same grid, wait few minutes. everything and everyone has loaded. fight you will have some lag, but much less like after warping/jumping into an enemy fleet. then you all have fun, everyone is happy. or not? cause the enemy can shoot back? and you cant pwn him on the forums after the battle? your descision jin Nope, because manuevering the fleet is half the battle. That is why good fleet commanders can wipe out mediocre fleets who have a numbers advantage. Your idea would mean the battle would be pretty much decided before you even undocked. It would just be a fight of fire power and electronic warfare. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:09:00 - [108] Oh god the drama, I wanna burst ! Lol how can morale be low, you just witnessed BoB proving itself in the Caldari Championships, were all as high as kites and nothing will change that. All that bugs me atm is this horrendous lag, I want to be able to use my ship the way its meant to be used and not "wonder if it will load" every time we engage/jump in. Nothing more to say. - Shrike > BALLS DROPPED IN BELT AvanCade > lol Shrike > that didnt sound good.
KSUDruid	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:20:00 - [109] I'm richer now than I was before I came north. Is it normal to get 4-5 Dread Spawns every night in JU-? And seriously, I think IRON carries around Arbalest siege launchers on their ships for the pure Bling factor it adds. I Love This place, it's like the caldari loot w***age promised land. -Druid
s1r molle	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:30:00 - [110] Originally by: Horatio Starkiller You know we've never complained about the fact were facing 2 alliances at the same time... G + IRON, 1 + 1 = 2. No - but you have now
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:32:00 - [111] Originally by: s1r molle Originally by: Horatio Starkiller You know we've never complained about the fact were facing 2 alliances at the same time... G + IRON, 1 + 1 = 2. No - but you have now Please quote that, mr alt. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Senjii	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:36:00 - [112] Originally by: TWD We engaged two times our numbers today twice, and came out with a positive killratio. how come that IRON/G killboard shows different? compare kills on both sides only and thats expecially isk wise not true
s1r molle	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:40:00 - [113] Originally by: Senjii Originally by: TWD We engaged two times our numbers today twice, and came out with a positive killratio. how come that IRON/G killboard shows different? compare kills on both sides only and thats expecially isk wise not true if you came out best in the engagements how come you were all forced to warp out back to your pos's? I always thought the victor was the one left standing on the battlefield
Angelus X	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:43:00 - [114] Edited by: Angelus X on 04/01/2006 01:43:37 Originally by: Senjii Originally by: TWD We engaged two times our numbers today twice, and came out with a positive killratio. how come that IRON/G killboard shows different? compare kills on both sides only and thats expecially isk wise not true Because IRON dont post all their losses??! , and AFAIK the mining b****h corps dont post their losses there either? --------------------
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:46:00 - [115] Originally by: s1r molle Originally by: Senjii Originally by: TWD We engaged two times our numbers today twice, and came out with a positive killratio. how come that IRON/G killboard shows different? compare kills on both sides only and thats expecially isk wise not true if you came out best in the engagements how come you were all forced to warp out back to your pos's? I always thought the victor was the one left standing on the battlefield 2 things, mr alt. 1 - Look who you're talking to, it ain't a bob pilot. 2 - If your only measure of "victory" is who holds the battlefield then you really have outdone yourself for noobishness. Victory is far more complex than who kills the most, or who holds the battlefield at the end, anybody who fights would know this - this of course reaffirms my opinion that you are, as already stated, clueless. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:47:00 - [116] Quote: how come that IRON/G killboard shows different? compare kills on both sides only and thats expecially isk wise not true Yes so dreadnoughts dont count then ISK wise eh ? Or a multi billion outpost or god knows how many battleships of theirs we have killed, ok... - Shrike > BALLS DROPPED IN BELT AvanCade > lol Shrike > that didnt sound good.
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:51:00 - [117] All i wanna know why this flamefest hasnt been lock yet???
s1r molle	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:52:00 - [118] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Political Observer numbers? IRON/G versus Stain/ASCN 1300 versus 4000 Success! BoB with the "while you were away attack" making it 4000+BoB versus iron's miners at JU-. Iron/G come home, BoB calls for [5], and the pwnage of BoB ensues. BoB cries about numbers. ahaha Success in what? Losing an outpost BoB taking IRON's outpost was no major feat, even PA cud have done it. The fact is that the main forces wern't there to protect it. If a big battle had of been for the outpost and BoB put on a good show then u'd deserve a cookie for sure, but infact the complete opposite :P and besides - it gave us something to do when we finished with ASCN :) Watch it be taken back :) peace
s1r molle	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:54:00 - [119] ......also remember - your doing well (yes i admit youve done very well) but only at this stage of the conflict - its far from over - it will be interesting to see this unfold........
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:57:00 - [120] "how come that IRON/G killboard shows different?" battleship kills in the system in question today, after 20:00 eve-time * G/IRON: 9 ships lost according to BoB kb * BoB: 7 ships lost according to G/IRON kboards... (8 if you include a loss from BoB kb that isn't listed in G/IRON kill section, for the sake of accuracy) 9:8 with the smaller side actually killing more... not sure what you mean by "killboards showing differently" here. o.O;

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