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Admiral EnderWiggin
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:13:00 -
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Ho!
I'd like us to discuss expectations on the movie that's coming and everything else that may arising. This book is what got me into Eve and I can't wait to watch the movie! The trailer was awesome I hope they depict the game well and the fleet battles!
What about you guys? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:23:00 -
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There is no "The" in the title.
The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaign
Also, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years.
I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry.
Feel free to enjoy it though. |

Admiral EnderWiggin
Battlestars Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:There is no "The" in the title. The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaignAlso, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years. I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry. Feel free to enjoy it though.
Think of his works as a universe detached from the author. It's better this way. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:03:00 -
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Admiral EnderWiggin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:There is no "The" in the title. The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaignAlso, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years. I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry. Feel free to enjoy it though. Think of his works as a universe detached from the author. It's better this way.
Oh God.
I'll never get his booming voice out of my head from the 1988 New Orleans WorldCon.
Could hear him 300 yards away from ballroom at the Sheraton Hotel entrance. 
.......and it was a panel discussing "What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?" |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:22:00 -
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Admiral EnderWiggin wrote:expectations on the movie that's coming If you're going to have any serious expectations about any movie ever being made, you're going to have a bad time. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:29:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Admiral EnderWiggin wrote:expectations on the movie that's coming If you're going to have any serious expectations about any movie ever being made, you're going to have a bad time.
Can we have a little leeway on this for the upcoming "Gravity" ? |

Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:32:00 -
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I just finished the audiobook last week. (Yes, I live under a rock. Or, a bridge as situationally fitting.)
First time having read/heard about the thing.
I'll be interested in seeing it. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/
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Kyseth
Touring New Eden
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Posted - 2013.08.29 17:08:00 -
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I still have the book sitting on my counter to read. I want to read it, I just have wanted to read other things more. Hm.. maybe I'll get to that this weekend. |

jason hill
The Riot Formation Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.08.29 17:52:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Admiral EnderWiggin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:There is no "The" in the title. The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaignAlso, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years. I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry. Feel free to enjoy it though. Think of his works as a universe detached from the author. It's better this way. Oh God. I'll never get his booming voice out of my head from the 1988 New Orleans WorldCon. Could hear him 300 yards away from ballroom at the Sheraton Hotel entrance.  .......and it was a panel discussing "What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?"
"What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?"
huh ?  |

Optimo Sebiestor
Bondage Goat Zombie Strictly Unprofessional
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Posted - 2013.08.29 18:16:00 -
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One of the best book series I've read. It's up there with Rama and Cities in fligth. |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2013.08.29 18:46:00 -
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I've read three books in the series. My favorite was the one featuring Bean as the main character. The same events of Ender's Game, but from Bean's perspective.
Card does drive me nuts though. I make sure I don't ever read the author's foreword. The guy sure is impressed with his own work and how important it is to the world as a whole. |

Alexa de'Crux
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
19
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Posted - 2013.08.29 21:20:00 -
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jason hill wrote:"What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?" huh ? 
Wesley Crusher was a character in Star Trek: the Next Generation, widely disliked by the fanbase for being inhumanly good at anything he attempted.
He walked onto the Enterprise and instantly knew every panel and button, he would have passed his Starfleet Academy exams with the highest scores in his class (if he hadn't stopped to help his classmate), he was compared to 'Mozart' by an alien vistor to the ship (vis a vis his apparently-uncanny understanding of time and space).
Basically, he was the archetypal 'Mary Sue': a precocious supergenius who was better than the adult characters were at running their own ship. |

jason hill
The Riot Formation Public Disorder.
381
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Posted - 2013.08.29 21:27:00 -
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Alexa de'Crux wrote:jason hill wrote:"What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?" huh ?  Wesley Crusher was a character in Star Trek: the Next Generation, widely disliked by the fanbase for being inhumanly good at anything he attempted. He walked onto the Enterprise and instantly knew every panel and button, he would have passed his Starfleet Academy exams with the highest scores in his class (if he hadn't stopped to help his classmate), he was compared to 'Mozart' by an alien vistor to the ship (vis a vis his apparently-uncanny understanding of time and space). Basically, he was the archetypal 'Mary Sue': a precocious supergenius who was better than the adult characters were at running their own ship.
sorry ..I know the character ..he was a smug bastard that ended up being in the Q continuum ... I just didn't get krix`s analogy of him .... so what`s wrong with being a smug bastard who knows everything ...Christ knows ..theres enough of them in GD ? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.29 22:38:00 -
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jason hill wrote:"What to do about the Wesley Crusher Problem ?" huh ? 
The character of Wesley on Next Generation was not exactly well received at all upon initial broadcast. Really violent hatred tbh. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
41527
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Posted - 2013.08.29 22:40:00 -
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jason hill wrote:
sorry ..I know the character ..he was a smug bastard that ended up being in the Q continuum ... I just didn't get krix`s analogy of him .... so what`s wrong with being a smug bastard who knows everything ...Christ knows ..theres enough of them in GD ?
My analogy ? What ?
It was a discussion panel at Worldcon that I did not attend. Didn't have to as Orson was so loud you could hear it clearly. |

jason hill
The Riot Formation Public Disorder.
382
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:13:00 -
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oops my bad it looks upon reflection ive got me bloody wires crossed ... ill come back when ive sobered up and the wife stopped rowing with me |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:21:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:I've read three books in the series. My favorite was the one featuring Bean as the main character. The same events of Ender's Game, but from Bean's perspective.
Card does drive me nuts though. I make sure I don't ever read the author's foreword. The guy sure is impressed with his own work and how important it is to the world as a whole.
Ender's Shadow.
Also a fantastic book.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Admiral EnderWiggin
Battlestars Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:30:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:I've read three books in the series. My favorite was the one featuring Bean as the main character. The same events of Ender's Game, but from Bean's perspective.
Card does drive me nuts though. I make sure I don't ever read the author's foreword. The guy sure is impressed with his own work and how important it is to the world as a whole. Ender's Shadow. Also a fantastic book.
Yes ! |

Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
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Posted - 2013.08.30 06:26:00 -
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Loved the books but every movie that was ever made based off of books ive read have always left me dissapointed. Doesn't mean i wont go watch it anyway though "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:53:00 -
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I'm about three quarters of the way done with the book and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe there's some huge, amazing surprise in the last quarter of the book that I've yet to read, but so far it's just Ender being a whiny strategic genius.
Read Revelation Space by Alaster Reynolds if you want really cool sci fi. I kept picturing Eve in my mind. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:41:00 -
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Job Valador wrote:Loved the books but every movie that was ever made based off of books ive read have always left me dissapointed. Doesn't mean i wont go watch it anyway though
Which nearby universe are you living in ? 
This upcoming release is the first of the series to have such. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:43:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I'm about three quarters of the way done with the book and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe there's some huge, amazing surprise in the last quarter of the book that I've yet to read........
Oh yes indeed. The very surprise blown in the ad campaign.
edit: Also, it's honestly a day late and a dollar short.
Only reason it finally got the green light after over 20 years was the new trend to absolutely film every work of Young Adult SF possible. |

Admiral EnderWiggin
Battlestars Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:48:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I'm about three quarters of the way done with the book and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe there's some huge, amazing surprise in the last quarter of the book that I've yet to read, but so far it's just Ender being a whiny strategic genius.
Read Revelation Space by Alaster Reynolds if you want really cool sci fi. I kept picturing Eve in my mind.
The last part is what makes the book unique.
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Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
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Posted - 2013.08.30 13:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Job Valador wrote:Loved the books but every movie that was ever made based off of books ive read have always left me dissapointed. Doesn't mean i wont go watch it anyway though Which nearby universe are you living in ?  This upcoming release is the first of the series to have such.
Im talking about over my life time books I have read not Ender's game and due to those experiences i have low expectations for this movie as well. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.30 14:21:00 -
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Job Valador wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Job Valador wrote:Loved the books but every movie that was ever made based off of books ive read have always left me dissapointed. Doesn't mean i wont go watch it anyway though Which nearby universe are you living in ?  This upcoming release is the first of the series to have such. Im talking about over my life time books I have read not Ender's game and due to those experiences i have low expectations for this movie as well.
Ah. Now I follow you.
Gone with the Wind ? The Shining ? Harry Potter Films? Clockwork Orange ? Wizard of Oz (1939) ? War of the World ? Contact ? Dune (Syfy Mini) ? Cloud Atlas ? The Handmaid's Tale ?
I can go on.......... |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:07:00 -
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Ive read the first 2 books of "The First Formic War" which is the prequel to Enders Game. They aren't bad. A little slow at times, but still decent books. I cant wait for the third book so I can see how it goes.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2014
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:10:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:There is no "The" in the title. The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaignAlso, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years. I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry. Feel free to enjoy it though. Card has done a "Spider Robinson;" gone completely certifiable bonkers. He used write well, then got preachy... I can live with that. Heinlein did it, and whilst it was annoying, you could kinda filter it out. But where he is now? No thanks. None of my $$, either. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1793
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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jason hill wrote:Alexa de'Crux wrote:Wesley Crusher was a character in Star Trek: the Next Generation, widely disliked by the fanbase for being inhumanly good at anything he attempted. smug bastard that ended up being in the Q continuum ... so what`s wrong with being a smug bastard who knows everything ...Christ knows ..theres enough of them in GD ? I rather liked Wesley Crusher, actually. Not exactly one of my fav. characters because it was fairly 1.25 dimensional, but, meh, they had worse that I still liked. If anything, I disliked Worf, Troi and Crusher-the-mom (just naming main cast for now) noticeably more than Wesley. And don't get me started on Pulaski.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Akita T wrote:Admiral EnderWiggin wrote:expectations on the movie that's coming If you're going to have any serious expectations about any movie ever being made, you're going to have a bad time. Can we have a little leeway on this for the upcoming "Gravity" ? I'd like to say yes, but probably no. Funny enough, its IMDB score is nearly 8 from almost 500 voters, and it's still more than a month before release (which seldom happens to any movies AFAIK... per-screening attendees giving actual genuine votes maybe? then there could be some hope, but, meh, not biting yet, probably just the hype machine getting ludicrously over-revved). http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:58:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:There is no "The" in the title. The Film's surprise is already blown in the idiot ad campaignAlso, Card is not getting a dime out of me (and yes, he wrote the screenplay so he's up for points) for his rather twisted views on things the past 20 years. I don't support homophobic Mormons sorry. Feel free to enjoy it though. Card has done a "Spider Robinson;" gone completely certifiable bonkers. He used write well, then got preachy... I can live with that. Heinlein did it, and whilst it was annoying, you could kinda filter it out. But where he is now? No thanks. None of my $$, either.
I really had liked Card's novel "SongMaster" back around 1980. Upon a recent perusal, it contains a really really disturbing anti-gay subtext.
It was already there. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:59:00 -
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Akita T wrote:And don't get me started on Pulaski.
Summarily taken care of using an elevator shaft on a different show.  |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:19:00 -
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Early post-Venice Film Fest Comments for "Gravity":
""At once the most realistic and beautifully choreographed film ever set in space, Gravity is a thrillingly realized survival story spiked with interludes of breath-catching tension and startling surprise."
"........while Bullock is aces in by far the best film she's ever been in."
""As scripted by Cuaron and his son Jonas, this tale of one woman's grim expedition into the unknown is a nerve-shredding suspenser, a daring study in extreme isolation, and one of the most sophisticated and enveloping visions of space travel yet realized onscreen."
"...a howl in the wilderness that sucks the breath from your lungs. It comes blowing in from the ether like some weightless black nightmare, hanging planet Earth at crazy angles behind the action."
".....the directorGÇÖs long-overdue follow-up to GÇ£Children of MenGÇ¥ is at once a nervy experiment in blockbuster minimalism and a film of robust movie-movie thrills, restoring a sense of wonder, terror and possibility to the bigscreen that should inspire awe among critics and audiences worldwide."
"Somewhere, one imagines, the spirits of Stanley Kubrick and Max Ophuls are looking down in admiration." |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:10:00 -
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I can't wait to see Gravity. |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:01:00 -
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I don't see the big deal about him being anti-gay marriage. Just about a billion other people are anti-gay marriage too. Just what the author's opinions about certain issues have to do with his book that has nothing to do with said issues is a mystery to me. Now this boycott of the film and such by the pro-gay marriage team is just ridiculous and hypocritical. Let the man believe what he wants to believe. Sure, he's a **** but who cares? Why is it such a big deal? |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:06:00 -
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Also, most overrated sci fi book ever. Yes, the concept is cool but that doesn't take away from the fact that literally the first 3/4 of the book is superfluous diarrhea of the mouth. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
42494
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:09:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I don't see the big deal about him being anti-gay marriage. Just about a billion other people are anti-gay marriage too. Just what the author's opinions about certain issues have to do with his book that has nothing to do with said issues is a mystery to me. Now this boycott of the film and such by the pro-gay marriage team is just ridiculous and hypocritical. Let the man believe what he wants to believe. Sure, he's a **** but who cares? Why is it such a big deal?
I'm not going to give him a dime so he can use it to defend things like California Prop 8 again.
Many others will. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:10:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Also, most overrated sci fi book ever. Yes, the concept is cool but that doesn't take away from the fact that literally the first 3/4 of the book is superfluous diarrhea of the mouth.
This is why there are still requirements for having one's criticisms taken seriously. |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:01:00 -
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That's your choice to make, but it's just his opinion. It's not like he's running for president and plans to ban gay marriage or anything. Am I missing something? What if the boss of CCP were anti-gay marriage? Would you stop playing Eve? How does his opinion on the subject affect your life? That's what I'm getting at. Is the movie going to be homophobic? I seriously doubt it, as the book doesn't even get close to the subject. I'm pro-gay marriage, but if I wrote a movie that had nothing to do with it, how would it affect people who were anti-gay marriage?
I dunno, the book just seemed a little meh. Of course it's just my opinion, but having heard so many people rant and rave about it, I was rather disappointed. Maybe I was expecting too much. Maybe I should've read it in 1984 when I was 6 years old. Ok, the twist (if you want to call it that) was interesting and inventive, but I had already figured it out by the time I got there.
Just as there are requirements for having one's criticisms taken seriously, so should there be requirements for having one's praises taken seriously. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:03:00 -
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Astenion wrote:That's your choice to make, but it's just his opinion. It's not like he's running for president and plans to ban gay marriage or anything. Am I missing something? What if the boss of CCP were anti-gay marriage? Would you stop playing Eve? How does his opinion on the subject affect your life? That's what I'm getting at. Is the movie going to be homophobic? I seriously doubt it, as the book doesn't even get close to the subject. I'm pro-gay marriage, but if I wrote a movie that had nothing to do with it, how would it affect people who were anti-gay marriage?
I dunno, the book just seemed a little meh. Of course it's just my opinion, but having heard so many people rant and rave about it, I was rather disappointed. Maybe I was expecting too much. Maybe I should've read it in 1984 when I was 6 years old. Ok, the twist (if you want to call it that) was interesting and inventive, but I had already figured it out by the time I got there.
Just as there are requirements for having one's criticisms taken seriously, so should there be requirements for having one's praises taken seriously.
Had they simply paid him a bulk fee for his story....fine.
This man is getting profit points for his script. That's a lot of money to use in whatever way he wants. |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:22:00 -
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So you would stop enjoying something you enjoy because the creator has a different set of values than you, even when it wouldn't affect your life in any way? Why? Don't you think that's a little hypocritical? That's something right out of the Republican Party playbook.
What's he going to do with the millions he'll make off of it...buy a new house and a new car and invest it, right? You act like he will be able to wield giant anti-gay armies capable of taking Glee off the air and preventing gay marriage in certain states. He's a science fiction writer whose skill is debatable, and he's an arrogant tool. He's not a threat. He's not Chick Fil A, who are owned by a multinational conglomerate and whose toxic attitude towards equality REALLY CAN affect the political landscape with lobbying.
I'm pro-gay marriage, but if a band I like isn't pro-gay marriage, I'm not going to stop listening to them. That's some PMRC mentality right there. That's the road to censorship and, ironically, intolerance. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:44:00 -
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Astenion wrote:So you would stop enjoying something you enjoy because the creator has a different set of values than you, even when it wouldn't affect your life in any way?
Prop 8 affected my ability to get married. |
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Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
230
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:56:00 -
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Better safe than sorry? (He wants no chance his money would be used that way)
Back on topic about what you wrote earlier Astenion, When I first read the ender series I was very young and thought it was the most amazing sci fi books i ever read. Then I re read them when i was all grown up and realized it wasn't all that great, still enjoyed the book tremendously, but still not a fantastic piece of literature.
I guess it was the concept that excited folks the most i dont know.  "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 18:39:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Prop 8 affected my ability to get married.
And now the truth comes out. You blame other people lobbying politicians, but not the politicians. You wouldn't mind moving back to the state that kept you from getting married, but you have a problem with Orson Scott Card being anti-gay marriage. Take a step back a second and look at this.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Who said anything about not participating if an entity does not announce being absolutely pro-gay ? I sure did not. You sure did.
Uh, well, you did. Also, I didn't say "not announcing being absolutely pro-gay". Please read more carefully. I said it wouldn't change anything for me to be at odds with a band who was anti-gay marriage even if I were pro. You said it: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:.........and yes, I'd quit EVE in a heartbeat were that true. But Icelanders would not be that uncool..
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:And when there is no place left to get married ? ? Whereto then ? And yes, I want to desperately move back to California. And with that statement, you seem to have an ulterior motive of a sort here, on top of the backwards thinking in your arguments.
Ulterior motives? What ulterior motive would I have? I moved out of the states because of the stupidity going on there.
Backwards thinking? You said you wouldn't support the film of a book you love because the author is anti-gay marriage and you fear that with whatever pennies he earns in respect to the massive amount of capital required to affect policy he'll be able to effect change just because he made a movie. Do you hear yourself?
I asked you if you would quit playing Eve if the boss were anti-gay marriage. You replied with the above post that you've already made clear that you would. I pointed out the fact that that is the very same intolerance of other people that you are railing against, and now I seem to have backwards thinking. Wat?
I'm pro-gay everything. This, however, is just silly. |

Astenion
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2013.09.03 18:41:00 -
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Job Valador wrote:Better safe than sorry? (He wants no chance his money would be used that way) Back on topic about what you wrote earlier Astenion, When I first read the ender series I was very young and thought it was the most amazing sci fi books i ever read. Then I re read them when i was all grown up and realized it wasn't all that great, still enjoyed the book tremendously, but still not a fantastic piece of literature. I guess it was the concept that excited folks the most i dont know. 
That's pretty much how I feel about it. It reads more like a novella from a gifted high school student. It is entertaining, but I found myself on numerous occasions kicking myself for not reading another book instead. I like to finish books one at a time, even though occasionally I'll read a few at the same time. |
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