Also what's the point of the mass addition in bastion mod when it can't move anyway?

Also why the hell do they STILL have tractor beam bonuses? Get rid of them already, noone that has a clue how to play eve uses marauders for loot/salvage, we all use a noctis now, like your supposed to.

And a comment about the ship bonuses themselves.

Caldari: Tank, Range, Damage application x2
Minmatar: Tank, Range, Damage, Damage application
Gallente: Tank, Range, Damage, Damage application
Amarr: Tank, Range, Damage, Cargo?

Um... what? Cargo capacity for the amarr? Why?

No, it doesn't. People jumping through the bridge uses fuel (which is not reduced by the jump bridge skill, but by your local jumpdrive skills), but activating a Black Ops bridge doesn't use any fuel. In fact, it's a passive module. Titan bridges are active modules that require fuel to fire up before anyone jumps.

And I think it's pretty clear from the removal of the tractor beam bonuses that you guys understand that, and understand that the Noctis pretty much obsoletes the tractor bonuses on everything short of an Orca.

Solo lvl5? With the bastion mod online? (Cus without the rep bonus you'll need that) Lowsec?.... uhm ok.....

Now I understand why you losing all your space and catch ;)

Ever seen a rorqual deply or a dread in siege? Wit the bastion online you wont go anywhere when a hostile is on field considering the undeployment time, the basition to finsish cycle and the mjd spooling up... thats like 3 of 3 things to much

Tanking it solo is one thing finishing site is another incursion are not wh farmland if you go in you will not be webed sometimes / pointed sometimes neuted sometimes

You will be perma jamd perma webd perma pointed from multiple ships at the same time... going in solo(1st iteration) while it wouldn't be certain death(and it should be) you would stay there til DT or died if you didn't boot cap stable fit = even less dps on already pirate inferior dps due to allocation of additional mods for cap stuff.

Add dual webs as mandatory to kill frigs(when you are not jamd) and situation is getting worse there is only so much slots per ship....you can always try to jump around site to attempt to brake jams and use small window to eliminate frigs but that's not gaming it become punishment at that point.

Also 1st iteration was simply too much bastion focused all your tank was basically in bastion when you drop out of it nerfed hit points without any resist buff simply translated to easy alpha kill,no benefit from RR what so ever.

Nidhoggur: 90 m/s (and this is the carrier no one uses)

Now if you will kindly move your attention to high end cosmic signatures you will notice a substantial increase in the tank needed.

There are many ships that are screwed over by a bonus that should be rolled into the hull/mod or a bonus that can only be used in active tanking and not both active and passive for example. As we know this is in no way balance. But if I have to get over such bonuses, everyone else should also.


So tell me why hybrid weapons have a 5 sec ammo change when they only do Kin/Therm.

My point was that most people will not drop an extra billion worth of faction/deadspace/officer modules onto the hull to reach those silly numbers for armor. Especially if you have to lock yourself in place for 60 seconds

The golem bonuses don't make any sense. Get rid of the TP bonus...WTF

PvE players don't care. They always push for a ship with no weaknesses in every change that impacts them. They never test said ships to any degree and get angry when their great idea gets torn apart by PvP pilots who test changes in every way possible. The problem is that just about every PvE pilot has no experience or need to experiment with fits, they just copy whatever is the top rated hull and fit on battleclinic and follow the PvE guides.

After the disaster that was the barge buffs CCP has learned to ignore these people which is why every teircide after the barges has been a great success.