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Lisa Payne
Posted - 2006.01.05 10:23:00 -
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Why on earth would I pay 300M for a ship that gives such a small bonus increase versus the covetor. Besides there is nothing left to mine until CCP fixes the roid respawn bug.
Specture
Posted - 2006.01.05 11:37:00 -
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My kitten has bigger teeth than you, I hope someone gets really angry and pods you.
Professor Utonium
Posted - 2006.01.05 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lisa Payne Why on earth would I pay 300M for a ship that gives such a small bonus increase versus the covetor. Besides there is nothing left to mine until CCP fixes the roid respawn bug. Break-eve rate on a hulk @ 300 mil with exhumers lvl4 vs a covetor on .5 sec ores is something along the lines of 200mining hours. When a hulk drops to the 150~ish range i'll buy one, but not at these prices. It's a waste to anyone except 0.0 alliance miners at current prices.
Professor Utonium
Posted - 2006.01.05 21:48:00 -
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Thomus
Posted - 2006.01.06 09:48:00 -
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lol @ responses
Sirilonwe
Posted - 2006.01.06 10:04:00 -
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You know what? At 300 millions, I'll never, I repeat: NEVER buy one of your hulks, nor anyone's hulk. If you were selling them at 120 millions, I would take up to 3. You're closing yourself your market by selling stuff so high.
BOSSMAN69
Posted - 2006.01.06 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lisa Payne Why on earth would I pay 300M for a ship that gives such a small bonus increase versus the covetor. Besides there is nothing left to mine until CCP fixes the roid respawn bug. I agree and have no intention of buying a Hulk over 75 mil. Basically at that price you are doubeling your isk anyway. The advantage over the covetor is not good enough to warrant such a high asking price.
Michel LaTour
Posted - 2006.01.07 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Michel LaTour on 07/01/2006 20:27:01 Simple economics, people: Don't buy @ 300 mil and eventually, these people will choke on their supply and be forced to reduce prices, or else lose an immense amount of money (the fact that we all can't do this for gasoline kind of sucks). Anyone who HAS BPO's should know that 120 mil is reasonable and that you will be heralded for keeping honesty in the market. If this guy does flood the market with BPCs, he'll mostly be doing himself a disservice, as the sell price will subsequently drop below 75 mil. Empty threat :-P
Gibri
Posted - 2006.01.07 22:40:00 -
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I bought a hulk for 500m
Dark Shikari
Posted - 2006.01.08 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: bladerunnerFTW if anyone puts a barge under avrage price i will buy it even though i wont use it And this is a threat? - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
pardux
Posted - 2006.01.08 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gibri I bought a hulk for 500m /me pokes the carebear
120989
Posted - 2006.01.08 16:27:00 -
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look here how much they were
Rthor
Posted - 2006.01.08 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zell I say we all pod him, constantly... maybe the point of the thread is to get you to try just that
11111010101
Posted - 2006.03.01 01:57:00 -
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so why now they are 500m? comon! put the price at... 300m
Argenton Sayvers
Posted - 2006.03.08 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 08/03/2006 16:28:28 hehe this thread is pure comedy. I have bought hulks for 450m for one simple reason: to resell them for decent profit. Granted, the prices are now slowly dropping to 450m. Thanks for the laugh everyone. 125m for a hulk. heh. Losing customers. heh. Declaring war on someone who has 100b+ in assets and makes 2b+ a week... heh.
Alanix
Posted - 2006.03.08 18:22:00 -
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Quote: You're closing yourself your market by selling stuff so high. Closing themselves out of the market? They are making two billion in profit a week, with a month-long waiting list. I'd say they're doing pretty well for themselves!
Enderweeks
Posted - 2006.03.09 16:46:00 -
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Its also a post from 2 months ago - so why resurrect?
Bellac
Posted - 2006.03.11 09:25:00 -
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I just dont see the reason for this post. Other than aggrivating alot of miners (who all know the real cost of the ships). I for one was toying with the idea of buying a hulk if I saw one for about 300 mill. I will now not line the pokets of a producer who feels he has to try to price fix his product. Its not even as if this print will not make its owners more isk than most pilots will see in their entire eve lifetime. As far as I can see you should just let the sellers find their own local levels without trying to muscle in. I know its only a game but IRL price fixing is illegal. As to the guy who says he will buy all ships below the market average; well if i had a print I would make 24/7 and put em on the market for 200 mill and sell em all to you.
High Sierra
Posted - 2006.03.11 11:47:00 -
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To the OP: idiotic posts ftl. go away.
Alanix
Posted - 2006.03.11 16:34:00 -
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Quote: As to the guy who says he will buy all ships below the market average; well if i had a print I would make 24/7 and put em on the market for 200 mill and sell em all to you. I mean no offense, but that shows a very poor grasp of economics. What is happening is not "price fixing"; what is happening is the interaction of supply and demand. Consider this: The very first hulk builders were putting them up for sale at 300m each on the sell orders forum. Within DAYS they had 3-4 MONTHS worth of backorders. Now if in a few days, you sell several months worth of product, what does that tell you? This happens IRL too and there is nothing illegal about it. If Ford makes a new car and puts 100,000 units on the market at $10,000 each, and in two WEEKS all 100,000 are sold, Ford is going to raise the price to a point where supply can keep up with demand. It should take about a week to sell a week's worth of production--if it takes a few hours, that means your price is far too low. That's what caused the gas lines in the '70s...a week's worth of production/imports were selling out in a few hours, due to the price ceiling (sellers were not permitted to raise the price to seek the proper price point between supply and demand). I'll give you an example from my life. My grandfather is an excellent contracter, and right now is scheduling jobs about TWO MONTHS in the future. That's right, if you want a drainage system put in, your foundation leveled, etc., it will take him two months to get to you. He has THAT many customers, and it is constantly stressing him out. I told him to increase his profits by 20% and he'll reduce the backlog from two months to two weeks AND increase his profits. One final example: go into any American town and set up a barber shop, and charge the same price as the barber who has been in town for 40 years. You think you'll get any customers?--if you've ever been in a barber shop, you know that people are incredibly loyal to their own barber. But, I guarantee that if you undercut his price by 30%, you'll undercut some of that loyalty and start getting customers. My point is simply this: in economics, the supply curve an demand curve meet to form a price point. If you put a week's worth of merchandise on the market and sell out in five minutes, that tells any intelligent businessman that he is charging too little for an insanely popular product. He will change the price accordingly. You would be incredibly profitable selling your ships at 200m each, but in the course of a year the other producers, who cater to the open market (WITHOUT price fixing) would make almost triple your profits. If that's what you want, so be it. But businesses, in game and IRL, are out to make money, and to make as much of it as they can without extortion or cheating. I do not consider catering to demand on the same level as extortion or cheating.I do not own a Hulk blueprint and do not sell Hulks or any other ship. But as a soon-to-be MBA student IRL, I just wanted to comment on the economics of the situation.
Consrul
Posted - 2006.03.11 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Consrul on 11/03/2006 16:49:43 meh was commenting on old thread ;/
Vorra
Posted - 2006.04.22 20:06:00 -
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well yes you have a point an d i agree with raising prices to keep up with supply and demand but there is a diference here you gave the example of ford raising there prices to keep up with supply and demand. how ever you will never see ford raise the prices from $10,000 to 500,000 or even a million that is price gouging and that is what is happening here. not that prices have gone up. it is ridicules to spend that kind of money on a ship that really isnt much better then a covetor now if it had 5 missle turrets on it it would be more worth the 3 or 400 mil
Ela Deldora
Posted - 2006.04.22 20:22:00 -
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Why don't you lose a dread over it?
fmercury
Posted - 2006.04.22 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: fmercury on 22/04/2006 20:25:32 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=326819
Zorene
Posted - 2006.04.22 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ela Deldora Why don't you lose a dread over it? Wasn't it two dreads and a carrier? Making a bold claim that you're going to control the market, chances are people will make you not- out of spite
Spacehooka
Posted - 2006.04.22 22:50:00 -
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Moron making moronic claims with a moronic plan. Oh noes.
VashTheStp
Posted - 2006.04.23 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Swaffer the current mark up on HULK prices are about 300%, average build cost is 50 million, so there is plenty of scope to under cut prices say to 120 million, which i'm sure would please a lot of people out there. are you serious? --Frontline Defense Force is recruiting!
Kuraimori
Posted - 2006.04.23 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ela Deldora Why don't you lose a dread over it? Zing. Goons have downed a few of his, that's for sure. Oh and yeah, what he's talking about is impossible. Good to see someone with such luck in the BPO lottery has such a weak grasp of economics. This lottery sure is a meritocracy.
blarrgh
Posted - 2006.04.23 04:10:00 -
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The goons in the past week or so have blown up the following all flown by swaffer. 1 Carrier 1 Deadnaught (maybe 2) 1 Hulk (That he was mining in must be getting poor) Its scary that a Corp with no cap ships is raping caps ship like that. Opps forgot the goons have a carrier.
Cringeley
Posted - 2006.04.23 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zell I say we all pod him, constantly... Goonfleet has been working on this for a couple of weeks now, but there are only something like 1800 of us so that makes about 3 T1 frigates we can field against each of Swaffer's Hulk-financed dreadnaughts. -------------------------------------------- Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust.
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