What are your missile skills like? In L4s the idea is to generally kill before you get hit, better known as gank. Also, you could stick a MJD on and stay 100km away and you will rarely get hit at all. They suit Ravens real well.


That being said, the co-processor kinda tells me you may not be ready for a BS.

The fit is very good, keep it as is. Just alter the basic usage by fitting a microjump drive and sensor range mod: Fit a large micro jump drive instead of the shield boost amplifier and use mission specific hardeners. Fit a sensor booster instead of the cap recharger OR a signal amplifier instead of the CPU mod, if you can.

This way you will use the microjump range as your main tank and stroll through L4's like a breeze. An added benefit is npc EWAR not hitting you at the range either.

You've got active hardeners fitted. What are your resistance skills like?

e.g. EM Shield Compensation, Thermic , Kinetic and Explosive.

Hey all!

I've recently switched from my drake into my raven, with the "new ship" feeling getting the better of me. I'm currently working on lvl 3 missions with lvl 4 fast approaching but i'm having some troubles with some of those more difficult missions.

I usually do missions in around 0.6/0.5 sec and stay in High Sec just for the safety of it but i'm having quite a bit of trouble keeping my shield up when facing guristas in tech 1 cruisers. They hit very hard and when in a group of about 10 or so, they get my shield down very quick and I need my shield booster along with cap recharger to stay alive.

6 x t2 cruise launchers with fury missiles.

2 x t2 adaptive invuln field
1 x t2 em ward fiel
1 x t2 cap recharger
1 x t1 xl-shield booster
1x t1 shield boost amp

4x t2 ballistic control sys
1x t2 co-processor

3x t1 large warhead rigors

That's it, hoping for some helpful tips!

Will try it when I get home from work - testing is all fine so it'll be fun to see what the difference is.



With them on? All around 70-80% Can't remember exactly now but I do remember that my kinetic defence is at 79%

Fury missiles are even worse than regular cruise missiles against cruisers because of the signature difference. Use regular/faction/javelin missiles against cruisers.

don't try to omni tank mission ships, as very few missions require it. Use 3 specific shield hardeners (2 on the main damage type, 1 on the secondary). Instead of a cap recharger a cap booster would probably suit you better, so if you had to tank hard in some of the missions you could keep you XL booster running longer. I don't know if that will fit in your setup, but if you can try to fit it.

Try to get into a navy scorpion instead of flying a raven for level 4's. The navy scorpion is more forgiving and tanks harder, and will serve you better as you get accustomed to level 4's. When your skills are solid and you're pushing for faster clear times is when you want to make the change from a navy scorp to a navy raven.

Until you can afford a navy scorpion I would suggest using a drake for level 3's.

Yes, I've read that everybody recommends lvl 3 missioning with a drake, which I've come to fit quite good imo but I wanted to try the raven but seems you may have a point. Didn't know about the "reduced" damage from cruise to lesser ships but I guess that is what the target painted and rigors might be for?

Alright so for the hardeners, passive or active? Since i usually meet up with guristas and they do kinectic damage so I guess just fitting 2 of those hardeners and 1 thermal for ex.

Read quite a little bit about the scorpion but will read up a bit more about it. Thanks for the tips and as for money, it's not an issue but I don't want to throw it all around!

That's what the painters and rigors are for. My understanding of missile damage mechanics is that you compare the sig radius of the missile against the target signature radius, and you get reduced damage based on that ratio. My understanding is that it's actually a double whammy though because ships that are below that ratio also take less damage in the explosion velocity vs. ship velocity calculation. I'm not an expert on the actual equations though, just the general themes. Maybe someone else knows.

Active if you can. Specific hardeners use less cap than invurn fields, so they should be easier to run. 2 kinetic 1 therms is exactly what you should be running against guristas. 2 em 1 therm sancha/blood raiders, 2 therm 1 kin serp, 2 exp 1 kin angles, 3 em drones.

The navy scorp is solid because it has a shield resist bonus instead of the navy raven application bonus, and it has more mids to help with tank (more hardeners) or capacitor. As you feel more confident in your ship you can switch out a hardener for a target painter. If you're using cruise missiles on your navy scorp then you have plenty of range anyway.

What I find wierd though, is the scorpions bonuses. Those have made me thing of it as an EWAR BS rather than a plain missile boat.

The normal Scorpion is an EWAR boat, the *NAVY* Scorpion has the tanking bonuses

Also, to use an image, with Fury Cruises against Cruisers, you're basically chucking buses at bikes ... using Precision Cruises and a Target Painter works better, but they still are quite a pain to deal with ... and for the love of Basement Cat, PLEASE raise your Cruise Missile Specialization above 1, to at least 3, preferably 4.

My missile skills are as follows:

Cruise Missiles rank 5
Cruise Missile Specialization rank 1
Missile Bombardment rank 4
Rapid Launch rank 3
Target Navigation Prediction rank 3
Warhead upgrades rank 3

I didn't list them all but I think they are the only ones relevant to cruise missiles.

When fitting my raven I followed this fit;
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/66362-Raven-PVE-Fit-Odyssey.html

That's why I have a co-processor.

What are your missile skills like? In L4s the idea is to generally kill before you get hit, better known as gank. Also, you could stick a MJD on and stay 100km away and you will rarely get hit at all. They suit Ravens real well.


That being said, the co-processor kinda tells me you may not be ready for a BS.

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Shield Emission Systems - level 2 (getting that up asap)
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