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Scrammer
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:25:00 -
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It's in the middle of the day, when most people are at work/school and what-have-you, and the server lag is so massive it's taking me nearly 2 minutes to open up station service windows, info boxes, corporate hangers, etc.
Between this lag (and I'm scared to see what happens at primetime tonight when the user count gets over 22,000) and the numerous UI bugs, the quality of my experience playing EVE is deteriorating.
Honestly, CCP got that new hardware, then put a new patch in (which had more hardware upgrades from what I understand)...and lag is worse then ever, as well as UI bugs.
When will this ever end?
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Suya
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Suya on 05/01/2006 19:28:29
troll topic me thinks
EDIT Do not feed the troll
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Phrylock
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:27:00 -
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When the window opens, can I have your stuff?
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Scrammer
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:34:00 -
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This isn't a troll topic.
It's an informal request for information from CCP on what they're planning to do about this lag and the UI bugs.
I'm not leaving the game...just expressing my frustration at the current situation of gameplay.
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Metlec
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:37:00 -
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Dont live in Jita? 
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 05/01/2006 19:37:51
Patch deployment, new servers enroute and agent transferrals started.
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The fix patch is currently scheduled for release during scheduled downtime on Tuesday, January 10th. It hasn't passed final review from Quality Assurance, so this date might change. Patch notes should be available shortly.
Other measures to address lag are being deployed during downtimes, one of them being Agent transferrals from high traffic systems to less loaded systems. If your agents are being moved, you should already have recieved an evemail notification that the agent is moving and to what system he will be moving to. All agent transferrals should be finished by the 8th of January.
Further transfer measures are being considered for the next weeks, such as moving Ice belts from the high traffic systems.
The really good news is that the brand new IBM AMD 64-bit Tranquility cluster is on its way and the setup phase should be started early February - if shipping goes according to plan \o/
The bad news is that the Bloodlines deployment is moved back a number of weeks due to the upcoming fix patch, the new hardware setups and our focus on improving Tranquility performance.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:40:00 -
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I don't seem to have any problems.
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Megadon
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Posted - 2006.01.05 19:55:00 -
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I flame posters like this and i never complain about lag but.....
I don't live in Jita, I don't go to the core systems, but the lag has been so bad for me the last several days that I'm starting to realize that I can't play the game this way forever and I am seriously bummed out. I can't even do stuff in the station because everything takes forever, the market functions get hung up, right click operation literally take up to a full minute. .... I live in Isikemi and there are never more than 50 people in local and it lags like crazy. I've never seen it this bad. This is not a good thing.
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Arcsine
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:15:00 -
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Thankfully, I'm not having such bad problems...*anymore.*
The lag has, from what I gather from my experience as a multiregion gate jumper on the lookout for Cylons, to be much lower than after the RMR patch deployment.
Maybe check your internet connection? Router reboot? Just a thought?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar
I don't seem to have any problems.
me neither
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Jennai
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Metlec
Dont live in Jita?
the hub systems are completely unplayable (2 minute lag in oursulaert yesterday) but even if you're out in the middle of nowhere, you'll run into random systems that lag like hell with like 10 people in local because they're sharing a node with a blob war or busy system.
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Swedish Bob
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:25:00 -
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Yea well RMR is still far too buggy. It is a real pain to have to relog every half hour because the client will lock up otherwise. The is especially troublesome during fleet ops. Graphical lag is worse, network lag slightly better. So basically we are putting up with all these problems so they can cram another 2-5K users on the server and put off new hardware for a few more months. RMR should not have come out until the new cluster was running. They rushed the patch out without proper testing or really even a proper design.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:44:00 -
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I live down in the Kador region of Amarr space, and I haven't had any bad lag ever since about a week or so after RMR came out. My system generally hovers around 12 people, but still, no lag in other systems I run through either.
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Jason Kildaro
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:48:00 -
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"I want to know what CCP is doing about this, they don't care, all they are doing is making money, blah blah blah, yadda yadda, yadda"
Do you guys read the news one the mian page of your logon screen? They have adressed us 3 times since RMR in that section alone!
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General Meridus
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:04:00 -
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I haven't had a problem at all with lag, for about a week or more.
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Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:07:00 -
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tons of lag today, in fact I lagged out of the dock so that my cargo, after i emptied it, still showed being full eventhough I had dragged all the items to my dock inventory.
Also, during battles, there is lag when i kill or lock on for a few seconds, it's been happening this last week
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Jack Tau
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:15:00 -
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I have a simple diagram here(In text, so excuse the suckiness of it) that should explain all your problems..
User -> Computer -> ISP -> A.N.Other ISP -> Many, many isps -> Another ISP -> CCP's ISP -> CCP -> EVE Servers.
Now, as you can see in the diagram there are many things involved in you playing eve. Your computer is a major one, is it doing something else? Is some background dll doing something? Do you have a virus scanner that is not excluding your eve directory? No? Ok, maybe its your ISP, or your phone/cable company? Or maybe its another ISP in between you and CCP?
If all that is incorrect(And you have checked it), THEN you get to whinge about the servers. People complaining about problems with eve are all to quick to jump to ill-informed conclusions and blame CCP, well its about time us users stood up for CCP. I, personally, do not have problems with lag, despite playing at *all* hours of the day and going from all kinds of random sectors of space, to the very heavily populated system.
Secondly.. "when most people are at work/school and what-have-you," Most people where? China? England? America? Believe it or not, other time zones exist apart from yours.
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Tau
I have a simple diagram here(In text, so excuse the suckiness of it) that should explain all your problems..
User -> Computer -> ISP -> A.N.Other ISP -> Many, many isps -> Another ISP -> CCP's ISP -> CCP -> EVE Servers.
Now, as you can see in the diagram there are many things involved in you playing eve. Your computer is a major one, is it doing something else? Is some background dll doing something? Do you have a virus scanner that is not excluding your eve directory? No? Ok, maybe its your ISP, or your phone/cable company? Or maybe its another ISP in between you and CCP?
If all that is incorrect(And you have checked it), THEN you get to whinge about the servers. People complaining about problems with eve are all to quick to jump to ill-informed conclusions and blame CCP, well its about time us users stood up for CCP. I, personally, do not have problems with lag, despite playing at *all* hours of the day and going from all kinds of random sectors of space, to the very heavily populated system.
Secondly.. "when most people are at work/school and what-have-you," Most people where? China? England? America? Believe it or not, other time zones exist apart from yours.
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Warloxx
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:37:00 -
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Im not saying that there isnt a lag issue, but I have rarely ran into any.
I have had other members of my Corporation complain about it, but I have been spared thankfully.
I have seen alot of people in MMO's complain about the lag that simply have music running in the background, and downloading files off the internet, and all sorts of programs running simultainously.
Just because you can do something doesnt mean that you should.
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HelterSkelter
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:22:00 -
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the lag "is" at ccp's end in some systems. I just followed my agents to Hageken and there are 20 people just sitting outside of the station trying to warp away. Ive never had a problem in inoue/isiwaza with lag, even when others have been whining about lag in local.
The game is un-playable at the moment for me and has been since rmr. smooth move on taking agents from a lag free region to the lag hell of hageken.
Ive been training long skills since rmr and will continue doing so for awhile, until i bore of civ IV. at this rate my long term subsribtion to ccp is questionable (and no you cant have my stuff) and my opinion of the staff/dev's is below that of any other company that produces mmorpg's and ive played some crappy ones.
I realize that patches will come with bugs and have no problem giving ccp some time to fix this. But as people's enjoyment of a game goes down so do subscriptions and word of mouth. I wont recommend this game to any friends in its current state.
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Jerusaleman
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Tau
I have a simple diagram here(In text, so excuse the suckiness of it) that should explain all your problems..
User -> Computer -> ISP -> A.N.Other ISP -> Many, many isps -> Another ISP -> CCP's ISP -> CCP -> EVE Servers.
Now, as you can see in the diagram there are many things involved in you playing eve. Your computer is a major one, is it doing something else? Is some background dll doing something? Do you have a virus scanner that is not excluding your eve directory? No? Ok, maybe its your ISP, or your phone/cable company? Or maybe its another ISP in between you and CCP?
If all that is incorrect(And you have checked it), THEN you get to whinge about the servers. People complaining about problems with eve are all to quick to jump to ill-informed conclusions and blame CCP, well its about time us users stood up for CCP. I, personally, do not have problems with lag, despite playing at *all* hours of the day and going from all kinds of random sectors of space, to the very heavily populated system.
Secondly.. "when most people are at work/school and what-have-you," Most people where? China? England? America? Believe it or not, other time zones exist apart from yours.
thats because your a "im ok jack so **** you" type of guy. lucky for you, you dont have lag. but there are lots of people not even in empire that are suffering with real bad lag probs. they should complain they pay so STFU AND SIT DOWN.MUPPET
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Clytamnestra
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jerusaleman
Originally by: Jack Tau
I have a simple diagram here(In text, so excuse the suckiness of it) that should explain all your problems..
User -> Computer -> ISP -> A.N.Other ISP -> Many, many isps -> Another ISP -> CCP's ISP -> CCP -> EVE Servers.
Now, as you can see in the diagram there are many things involved in you playing eve. Your computer is a major one, is it doing something else? Is some background dll doing something? Do you have a virus scanner that is not excluding your eve directory? No? Ok, maybe its your ISP, or your phone/cable company? Or maybe its another ISP in between you and CCP?
If all that is incorrect(And you have checked it), THEN you get to whinge about the servers. People complaining about problems with eve are all to quick to jump to ill-informed conclusions and blame CCP, well its about time us users stood up for CCP. I, personally, do not have problems with lag, despite playing at *all* hours of the day and going from all kinds of random sectors of space, to the very heavily populated system.
Secondly.. "when most people are at work/school and what-have-you," Most people where? China? England? America? Believe it or not, other time zones exist apart from yours.
thats because your a "im ok jack so **** you" type of guy. lucky for you, you dont have lag. but there are lots of people not even in empire that are suffering with real bad lag probs. they should complain they pay so STFU AND SIT DOWN.MUPPET
Well if his being able to play is naught but good fortune, then why do we hold CCP accountable for other people's lack of it?
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Jumpp
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:14:00 -
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You posted at 19:25. That is, in fact "the middle of the day" here in the US, but you may be mistaken to imagine that "primetime" is "tonight." I think that 19:25 IS primetime. When I log on at lunch in the middle of the day (I'm on the west coast, so that's around 20:00), crowding is far worse than when I play in the evenings at my usual hour (04:00). I always figured the majority of the playerbase was in Europe. Am I wrong about that?
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jerusaleman
thats because your a "im ok jack so **** you" type of guy. lucky for you, you dont have lag. but there are lots of people not even in empire that are suffering with real bad lag probs. they should complain they pay so STFU AND SIT DOWN.MUPPET
Couple days ago we had that popup "please stay away from Oursulaert, it's really lagged to hell". I was just about to jump there and poof off we went. And actually I got through. Some delay on commands but I took a sip of tea and waited patiently. The only moment when I've had "bad lag", and that's the extreme case with extremely loaded hardware.
Had in one 0.5 system far far away once when I tried to activate weapons while ratting some 4 second delay. Happened only for once.
Other than that, been smooth like baby's bottom. Perhaps it's that I'm sitting on a 10/10 dedicated copper in a heavy duty core network that is near the actual server farms. I get that bandwidth all the way.
And those were like the only post-rmr times I have really had lag. And I play some 10 hours a day. And visit perhaps couple dozen systems daily.
There has got to be other factors around that make some people far more prone to lag than the others.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scrammer
It's in the middle of the day, when most people are at work/school and what-have-you, and the server lag is so massive it's taking me nearly 2 minutes to open up station service windows, info boxes, corporate hangers, etc.
Between this lag (and I'm scared to see what happens at primetime tonight when the user count gets over 22,000) and the numerous UI bugs, the quality of my experience playing EVE is deteriorating.
Honestly, CCP got that new hardware, then put a new patch in (which had more hardware upgrades from what I understand)...and lag is worse then ever, as well as UI bugs.
When will this ever end?
Try leaving the core systems with 400 people in local. I didnt have any lag problems at all where I was today.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:47:00 -
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I can understand people are frustrated, but acting like you can't do something about it makes you look rather whiney.. no?
Go to a system that doesn't lag. EVE has many nodes, it doesn't take a lot of travelling to find another.
Defeatist sounding posts are more annoying than any sort of lag.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:50:00 -
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you know what the problem is, its the connection you have to the net , and your computer.
"lag free for two weeks"
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implanted
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Posted - 2006.01.06 01:00:00 -
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yes we are all getting really bad lag up tribute like 20 seconds to copy 1 bm and opening items.....forget it....and we get numerous "emergency warps" after jumping in say a 20 man gang.
bummer !
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Zazza Zaa
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Posted - 2006.01.06 01:02:00 -
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the game play is total crap now
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.01.06 02:23:00 -
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Signed, fix it CCP on teh ASAP!
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.01.06 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 06/01/2006 03:22:34
How long have you subscribed. Going by a kind of average lag, EVE's current trajectory on latency is still continuously going down. Some scattered systems experience a bit of lag and you feel it because mechanics revolve around constantly zoning for some reason.
I get a nice little wait whenever I cross through shedoo or some random system, and maybe a few seconds worth when I try to access an cargo hanger full of hundreds of mods at a massively cluttered POS or something. Other than that, don't visit Rens or the systems around Rens.
The thing about all those pvpers out in low sec, you don't pay them to not shoot you, because you can secure that for free. Rather, you pay them so you don't have to log in order to wait them out. Basically, you are just getting griefed for free by staying in Empire and especially in the hubs and waiting for your stuck petition to resolve.
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Strikeclone
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Posted - 2006.01.06 04:25:00 -
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im sure i read somewhere that mixed groups of systems are housed on the servers. the result being that you could be in an empty 0.0 system that lives on a serve that also hosts sobeseki and its 300 or so agent runners. end result apparent lag for no reason.
I dont it matters where you live, UI bugs, market issues and a ever growing player base equals lag regardless of system.
i scincerly hope there is something to be done to help with this but not being a technonerd i have no clue what would help.
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Scrammer
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Posted - 2006.01.06 04:54:00 -
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Pretty tired of seeing the "I'm not affected so neither are you" mentality.
I'm not the only one being affected.
And for those people that keep telling me to get out of Empire...I'm not in Empire space.
I don't go anywhere near it, because my lag just increases.
My system is fine, as is my DSL connection to the internet.
Wake up and realize that just because it doesn't affect you, that doesn't mean it's not affecting others.
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BrerLapin
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Posted - 2006.01.06 05:04:00 -
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Holy crap, go play Star Wars Galaxies & log into Coronet not facing straight down. now if youve taken the precaution of muting all channels that can be spammed in local you might be able to move in 5 minutes or so.
MMO's lag in popular regions, DONT GO THERE games are about playing & adventure its hard to adventure in the awesome unexplored area of Jita oh wait theres 300 people there :p
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Ayla Vanir
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Posted - 2006.01.06 05:59:00 -
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Oh look, here's another thread about lag.
Yes, there's lag in crowded systems. There's also lag in systems with about 4 people in Local.
/sarcasm on
Should I move to Jita or 0.0 to fix this? Please, feel free to recommend based on your personal agendas - that's always helpful.
/sarcasm off
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