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Adago Vilon	Posted - 2006.04.07 13:10:00 - [31] Originally by: AlleyKat Choice number two is to fit a cap injector in the forth slot... AK. Exactly what I'm going to try once I get back from work. I have min cruiser lvl 5, and in 3 hours gall cruiser lvl 3 but with potentially 5 medium blasters to maintain cap is going bye bye very quickly (controlled burst needs some love). A corp mate has had a fair amount of success using a rax with medium cap injector (with 800's) so I don't see why it wouldn't work on a vigilant - it's just a matter of squeezing it all in!
AlleyKat	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:47:00 - [32] Originally by: Adago Vilon A corp mate has had a fair amount of success using a rax with medium cap injector (with 800's) so I don't see why it wouldn't work on a vigilant - it's just a matter of squeezing it all in! True, The Deimos and the Vigilant need some extra grid, and the Thorax to a certain degree. Even with maxed out fitting skills and implants, these ships are tough to fit - always have been. Other side of the coin is the DPS that they can potentially deal out is very high, once in range of course :) I personally have Gallente Crusier to LVL5 and Minmater Crusier to LVL4, using a Medium blaster setup and a tracking disrupter for the forth slot, I am not getting any cap issues. I have played with a named heavy missile launcher, interesting results, but feel that 5 blasters is better than 4 + 1 heavy launcher. I am training Precision Missiles currently and may have a different opinion about fitting a heavy launcher, but for now 5 T2 Heavy Blasters work very well on this ship and remain part of my recommended setup. Regards, AK.
Dracu1a	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:33:00 - [33] Ive had my eye on this ship for quite some time and have spent many an hour thinking about what kind of setup i would use. With the bonus's and the extra 4th slot it puts a new perspective on things. Only thing im wondering is why have the tracking disruptor? I would think that since your already fairly close due to your blaster range and have the mwd turned off, they would be hitting you anyways. Would/does the tracking disruptor make that big of a difference. With that module on the ship, what kind of victims are you aiming for? I still have a strange attraction to that setup w/ the cloak.....hehe
ShogunAssassin	Posted - 2006.05.06 21:57:00 - [34] This is my setup. I use it for PvP mostly, well always. It hasn't let me down yet. Highs: 3xModal Ion Particle Accelerators, 2x Med Nos. Mids: 1x AB (as I still have not trained up MWD) 1x 7.5k Scrambler 1x Multi Spec Jammer 1x Webber (which I sometimes swap out for another jammer or whatever) Lows: 1x Stabilizer 1x Small T2 Armour Rep 3x Active Hardners.
Cordt	Posted - 2006.05.06 22:50:00 - [35] HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 105 \| 29] Heavy Electron Blaster II > [ 105 \| 29] Heavy Electron Blaster II > [ 105 \| 29] Heavy Electron Blaster II > [ 105 \| 29] Heavy Electron Blaster II > [ 105 \| 29] Heavy Electron Blaster II MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 150 \| 50] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive > [ 1 \| 20] 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I > [ 1 \| 25] J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I > [ 150 \| 25] Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 173 \| 28] Medium Armor Repairer II > [ 1 \| 34] Radioisotope Explosive Hardener I > [ 1 \| 21] F85 Peripheral Damage System I > [ 2 \| 25] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I > [ 2 \| 25] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Pretty solid tank, decent damage output, and a cap booster. It's a bit too CPU tight to fit EANM IIs instead of Is, but a bit more training in weapon upgrades should allow it. With AWU 4 you may even be able to lose one of the EANMs to fit a 400mm plate, which should increase survivability.
Volkon	Posted - 2006.05.17 15:37:00 - [36] Edited by: Volkon on 17/05/2006 15:38:26 I got a Vigilant the other day and wanted to fit Ion's on it for max damage so i came up with this, skills are heavily taken into account mind... High - x5 Heavy Ion Blaster II's Med - x1 10MN MWD II x1 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibiter x1 Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibetor x1 Cap Recharger II Low - x1 Medium Armour Repper II x1 Explosive Hardner II x1 Adaptive Nano Membrain II x1 400mm Plate II (I get 3200 hit points with this) x1 RCU II Also buy the 3% bonus to RoF implant cost about 12.5mill but as you have no MFS it helps. Now i know the RCU is a bit poor but for the damage this thing puts out and its tank is farely good, it doesent really make a difference, this is a shot i got on a ferox last night. ''2006.05.17 03:28:31 combat Your Heavy Ion Blaster II perfectly strikes Pyrokineticfreak [VESP](Ferox), wrecking for 574.1 damage.'' Well i hope this will help a few people out, its definitly worth it Volk
Greyshadow	Posted - 2006.06.04 16:32:00 - [37] What range and ammo do you use to get a decent damage? I'm toying with Ion Particle Cannons but not really getting the sort of damage I'm gettng with my Light neutron t2's. Cheers "Now you see me, now you don't!"
Marcus Alkhaar	Posted - 2006.06.04 17:45:00 - [38] Edited by: Marcus Alkhaar on 04/06/2006 17:48:45 Edited by: Marcus Alkhaar on 04/06/2006 17:45:53 Edited by: Marcus Alkhaar on 04/06/2006 17:45:23 5x Heavy Electron Blaster II 1x 10mn MWD II 1x Faint Scram 1x x5 web 1x hypnos equilant racial jammer (32 CPU usage) 1x RCU II 1x 1600mm rolled tungsten 1x Small armor Repair II - or Magnetic Field Stabilizer II/ EANM II* 1x Energized adaptive Nano membrane II 1x psedoelectronic damage control *Needs a 5% cpu implant
Karylia	Posted - 2006.06.13 08:26:00 - [39] I use : 1x Heavy Ion Blaster II 3x Heavy Electron Blaster II 1x Med nos 1x Web 1x Disruptor (20km) 1x MWD 1x ECM Multi II 1x Medium Repair II 1x Damage Control 1x Energized Adaptive Nano II 1x Plates 400mm II 1x Magnetic Field Stad II 5x Med drones Explo or EM :D
Lodhi	Posted - 2006.06.13 09:22:00 - [40] 5* Shadow Serpentis Heavy Electron Blaster Shadow Serpentis 10mn mwd Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambles Shadow Serpentis Stasis web Cap recharger II (Never found a Shadow serp cap recharger) Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer 2Shadow Serpentis Mag stabs 2Shadow Serpentis Adaptive Nano This is how it should be :P
Jerick Ludhowe	Posted - 2006.06.13 11:48:00 - [41] Highs: 4x Heavy Electron II 1x Heavy Ion II Meds: 1x Fleet Web 1x 10mn MWD (or named/faction) 1x 20k scram 1x Electrochem Cap Injector Lows: 1x Medium Armor Repper II 1x Small Armor Repper II 1x Kenetic Hardener II 1x Thermal Hardener II 1x Explosive Hardener II (can replace actives with 3x EANMII or faction variets) I personally have never flown a vigilant so this is all theory are heresay from me at this point. Hower I think this setup would work well, a doubl rep setup with good resistances should be able to tank most cruisers and probably a few BCs, the cap injector makes it nearly nos proof when fighting BS, and the un modded blasters still do decent damage.
TheOnyx	Posted - 2006.06.14 12:38:00 - [42] Hi: 2x Heavy Ions TII 2x Heavy Electrons TII 1x E50 Nos Mid: 1x Y-T8 Overcharged MWD 1x Fleeting Webber 1x Fleeting 7.5km scrambler 1x Hypnos Multispectral jammer Low: 1x Medium repper TII 1x 400mm Rolled Tungsten plate 1x N-type Kinetic Hardner 1x N-type Thermal Hardner 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer TII 5x Hammerheads TII 230+ DPS + dmg from drones = at least 300+ DPS.
Niivvy	Posted - 2006.06.20 00:25:00 - [43] "5* Shadow Serpentis Heavy Electron Blaster Shadow Serpentis 10mn mwd Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambles Shadow Serpentis Stasis web Cap recharger II (Never found a Shadow serp cap recharger) Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer 2Shadow Serpentis Mag stabs 2Shadow Serpentis Adaptive Nano This is how it should be :P" quote from above (couldnt get the quote thing to work) do u actualy use this setup for pvp, if u do u must be mad you could buy several diemos for this kinda isk! And all would tank better just with normal t2 stuff but its up to u if u have the isk to spare if i am wrong here i stand corrected but id rather have a hac to a faction cruiser anyday
Iron Wraith	Posted - 2006.06.20 10:55:00 - [44] my aim with this ship was to use the 4th mid slot to overcome the cap problems blasterboats often face when getting into range and tanking. while i'm happy with the outcome the damage just doesnt feel as good as i'd like from a blasterboat. also i made sure i had a half decent tank on, she's just too pritty for me to fly in my normal wreakless way . 5Heavy Electron Blaster II [Void/Null/AM] 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Webber (cpu plentiful, named for better effect) Warp Scrambler 7.5K Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [400's] Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II WITH 3Armor Hardener II (E/T/K/Ex=60/75/66/59) OR 3Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II (E/T/K/Ex=79/72/62/54) 5Valkyrie II kicks out 448 raw dps on void or 358 on null. with no plates she keeps her agility and kicks out 1.7km/s with the mwd. the cap booster with 400's is better than an 800 charge when under heavy nos, more chance of u useing the cap. did a lot of maths comparing 200's, 400's and 800's. to run the rep and the guns the 400's come out on top when pited against heavy nos situations. she can fit 2 400's in the booster and 6 in the cargo. maybe more if u use a small container. but having the 3 ammo types doesnt leave much room for cap charges she's got the EAN's on at the mo, that was before the blaster buff. i quite like the EAN's cos they give great resistances with the new armour skills and ure armour is nos proof so u dont turn to mush if ure cap dies. the t2 hards now fit and give better resists, its a good option but i'm not sure if i'm gonna swap over yet. i've not done much pvp with her, but when i have taken her out she's performed very well. first outing was after loosing a mega in a cap ship battle. managed to get back in my vigi and bag a few stragglers before we focused on the last cap ship . learnt the hard way that u cant cram ure cargo full of ammo and do an ammo swap. u need to leave a bit of room free . all in all she's a wonderfull ship. just how i imagined the rax to work. i dont have access to the deimos yet, and unless she gets a good buff i dont think i'm gonna train for her. the vigi gives me a nice expensive toy to play with when i know what were up against. i just wish i had the cash to burn so i could take her out more often Because sometimes you just have to go back to your roots: [2005.02.20 01:08:03] (combat) Your Civilian Light Electron Blaster perfectly strikes Serpentis Smuggler, wrecking for 20.3 damage.
Jita Scouter	Posted - 2006.08.07 21:04:00 - [45] Just curious to see what ppl think of this setup? Highs: 5x T2 Med Ions Mids: 1x MWD 1x Web 1x 7.5km Scrambler 1x T2 Med Cap Battery Lows: 1x Small Armor Rep T2 1x 400mm Rolled Tung. Plate 2x EANM II's 1x Named Damage Control
Palx Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:27:00 - [46] 5 x Heavy Electron 2s MWD Scram Web Hypnos Multi Med Rep t2 800mm Cystalline Pseudoelectron Damage control EANM t2 Magstab t2 + Valkyrie t2s
banannagirl Minmatar The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:02:00 - [47] loooool the first two posts .. the vigi gives you a 25% minmat gun bonus derrrrr .... ! auto cannons or arties .. ! 750 arts were hitting like 300 a shiot last time i used a vigi - http://www.artzgalaxies.com/
Merin Ryskin Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:40:00 - [48] Originally by: banannagirl loooool the first two posts .. the vigi gives you a 25% minmat gun bonus derrrrr .... ! auto cannons or arties .. ! 750 arts were hitting like 300 a shiot last time i used a vigi - Err, what? Have you even flown the ship? It very definitely does NOT have a bonus to projectiles of any kind.
Dahak2150	Posted - 2006.08.30 06:48:00 - [49] Originally by: banannagirl loooool the first two posts .. the vigi gives you a 25% minmat gun bonus derrrrr .... ! auto cannons or arties .. ! 750 arts were hitting like 300 a shiot last time i used a vigi - Um........lol? ---------- My sig is boring.
Dragy	Posted - 2006.09.11 11:27:00 - [50] errrr, what ? is vigilant, not vigi its 720, not 750 its gal, not min
Justice Bringer Minmatar United Univers	Posted - 2006.09.11 13:22:00 - [51] Originally by: AlleyKat Originally by: PhalHell Tried these configs and they all die on cap. I guess that once orbiting in optimal that the MWD has to be turned off in order to make sure not do run out of cap ? Any comments on the tactics used for this ship ? IMHO : Train Minmatar Crusier to LVL4/5 to fix the cap issue and/or high speed maneuvering to LVL4/5. With regards to tactics, lock target, approach with MWD, release drones, web, scram, switch off MWD (because ya sig radius will be the size of a planet) and activate main weapons. Rinse and repeat. Choice number two is to fit a cap injector in the forth slot... Regards, AK. This is indeed the only way to go with the Vigilant as it's the only ship I know of (possibly the Vindicator is the same) that gains more cap from fitting an MWD and if you have Min cruiser at lvl 5 then yo'u benefit even more. Having lvl 5 cruiser is like fitting a cap battery for free so it's well owrth having both Gall and Min skills maxed out. In my 4th slot I always fit a Cap Booster, just to assist when things get tight, but I only run my MWD on a manual cycle and that should be enough to get me close enough to my target. I prefer Dual 150 IIs since they have a much further operating range than blasters and I can start shooting as far out as 20 - 25km with AM and know that i'll naturally end up in an optimal orbit of 8km, just inside web distance . Indeed they don't have the damage output of blasters but their rate of fire and their tracking make them a good choice between blasters and larger rails. Just my thoughts Justice
Draugz Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:05:00 - [52] Edited by: Draugz on 11/09/2006 14:07:10 Id say strike em hard and fast. x2 Heavy Ion T2 x2 Heavy Neutron T2 x1 Med Nos/ECM Burst? x1 Named MWD x2 Web x1 Scrambler x1 Kin Hardener x1 Therm hardener x1 Damage Control x2 Magstab Experimental setup and not tested on the Vigilant, have tried similar on the Thorax. EDIT: The double web and ECM burst is naturally for getting away due to having no repper, gonna try exact same setup on my Thorax later. Join The Naruto Online Multiplayer Game http://www.naruto-arena.com
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.11 14:48:00 - [53] HI: 5 x Electron Blasters T2 (Null & Void ammo) MID: Y-8 MWD, Webber, 20km Scrambler, Hypnos Multispec ECM LOW: 800mm plate (best named you can find), Mag Stab T2, 2 x Energised Adaptive Nano Membrane T2, Med Rep T2 Drones: 5 x Vespa ECM Minnie Cruiser 5 helps on cap usage obviously or fit a Cap power relay low instead of the mag stab.
Azuse	Posted - 2006.09.23 13:38:00 - [54] Originally by: Lodhi 5* Shadow Serpentis Heavy Electron Blaster Shadow Serpentis 10mn mwd Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambles Shadow Serpentis Stasis web Cap recharger II (Never found a Shadow serp cap recharger) Shadow Serpentis Medium Armor Repairer 2Shadow Serpentis Mag stabs 2Shadow Serpentis Adaptive Nano This is how it should be :P Looks like there's a lot of confusion surrounding this ship, well let's face it there is with most faction ships. T2 reps, t2 nanos, t2 mwds etc. simply shouldnt be on this ship. Everyone in this thread bar Lodhi has missed the point of faction ships completly, they are supposed to cost 500mil to fit, thats the whole point, a faction cruiser with a faction loadout (faction weapons aside) pwns. If you prefer a hac isk wise then by all means fly a hac, if you want something uniqe, that cost a bomb and realy get the blood pumping in pvp get this ship, and please don't list 20km scrams and t2 reps as standard fittings. A 20k scram is pointless in a ship that hits 1.6/1.7km/s without breaking a sweat.
Gem Astrai	Posted - 2007.02.22 07:28:00 - [55] Tracking Disruptor is must for this, try Balmer
Anton Cervantes S-44 Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.03.15 23:56:00 - [56] Ok, here is my plan: --------------------------------------------------------------- 5xHeavy Electron Blaster II MWD, Scram, Web, Cap booster with 1x800 charge Energized reactive + magnetic and adaptive with dual reps. 5xValkyrie II This requires a power grid rig (Ancilliary current router) but then you can also fit a hybrid rate of fire rig. This setup allows you to tank indefinately with everything but the MWD turned on. Unless you get NOSed ofc wich you probably will =/
Maeltstome Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.03.16 01:21:00 - [57] 5x Modal Electron Blaster y-t8 MWD, j5 scram, x5 web, electrochem cap booster (400's) 2x MAR II, active exp hard, EANM II, rcu It fits with AWU 4 With a PG rig, you can drop the RCU for a magstab or a bit more tank. Enjoy.
Col FireBreath	Posted - 2007.10.20 19:20:00 - [58] Edited by: Col FireBreath on 20/10/2007 19:23:53 I've had a lot of luck with this: 5x Heavy Ion Blaster II w/void 10MN MWD II Fleeting Scram X5 Web Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor / Phased Muon Sensor Disrupter (take your pick) 2x EAMN II 800mm RT Plate 2x MFS II Ancillary Current Router (PG rig) 2x Trimark Armor Pumps (You may want to swap one of the Trimarks for a Explosive Resist Rig) 5x Vespa EC-600 (Med ECM Drone) Fits with AWU 4 7.2k Armor Great for small gang, solo hunting, drones jam most BS / BC with no trouble, then you can just grind away.

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