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umbora
Aperture Reach C.L.O.N.E.
9
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:18:00 -
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I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
who's AWOXing who |

Pepper Swift
Watchers of Eden
6497
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:26:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
Lol wut.. the post above complies with anyone will complain about anything..
this thread belongs in the sewage that is GD... |

That Seems Legit
State War Academy Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:27:00 -
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while I think you're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing, I do agree the energy link rename is pretty damn stupid. Capacitor is what the energy is stored in. So... that name might as well be "remote gas tank transfer" Damns - you're ugly - and that's a compliment from me. -Large Collidable Object Seeking donations for facial reconstructive surgery, every little bit helps! |

Adacia Calla
Nubs. No Effin' Clue
43
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:30:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
They are a business.
They want to MAKE MONEY.
If streamlining naming conventions brings them 100 subs, and makes you quit, then they made the right choice. Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |

Ersahi Kir
The Eminence Front SpaceMonkey's Alliance
347
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:31:00 -
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I think all skills should only have a symbol that doesn't translate into any language. Because having things be less descriptive makes the game more eleet. |

Pepper Swift
Watchers of Eden
6497
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:32:00 -
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That Seems Legit wrote:while I think you're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing, I do agree the energy link rename is pretty damn stupid. Capacitor is what the energy is stored in. So... that name might as well be "remote gas tank transfer"
but that remote gas tank comment made me lol..
Yes i agree.. to both.. but its not worth complaining about. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:36:00 -
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It happens to most MMO's as much as you might not like it. The simple fact is if they can unlock that bottom 10 percent intelligence wise that means more subscriptions. As with any MMO more subscriptions is a good thing. |

Kroy Steiner
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:35:00 -
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Adacia Calla wrote:[quote=umbora]
They are a business.
They want to MAKE MONEY.
If streamlining naming conventions brings them 100 subs, and makes you quit, then they made the right choice.
That is true up to a point. I know of at least one major MMO (I won't name it, but it is the largest selling MMO in history), that has been dumbed down and dumbed down some more over the years, until even many of the die-hard fans quit playing. I'm not saying that EVE is doing this, names for skills seems like a fairly insignificant change to whine about. but if they do dumb it down too much it will not work in their favor. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
653
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:42:00 -
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When the bitching start about the name of module/skills changing, can we now say this place has hit rock bottom? |

Andrew Indy
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
18
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Posted - 2013.09.04 04:44:00 -
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IIshira wrote:It happens to most MMO's as much as you might not like it. The simple fact is if they can unlock that bottom 10 percent intelligence wise that means more subscriptions. As with any MMO more subscriptions is a good thing.
Stupid people do stupid things (smart people do as well but less often), so the more stupid people in the game the more easy targets we have. |

Frank Pannon
Jade Pork Assasins
68
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:34:00 -
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"I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve"
First of all you should not call new people "scrubs", just because they came to the game later than you.
Name changes can not make everyone happy (I did not like them), but if this is your biggest problem right now, than please consider yourself a very lucky person. |

Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1135
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:09:00 -
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Scrubs was a good TV show. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.09.04 12:59:00 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:IIshira wrote:It happens to most MMO's as much as you might not like it. The simple fact is if they can unlock that bottom 10 percent intelligence wise that means more subscriptions. As with any MMO more subscriptions is a good thing. Stupid people do stupid things (smart people do as well but less often), so the more stupid people in the game the more easy targets we have.
You have a point... Maybe more tears in local  |

Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
30
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Posted - 2013.09.04 13:52:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
I agree, a game should be challenging by the virtue of confusing naming conventions. In order to take EVE out of the hand of scrubs who need simple names, I propose to run all module names through at least 8 steps of Bad Translator, e.g.:
remote shield booster - becomes - "To remove the wheel, the coat of arms" remote tracking enhancer - becomes - "Improved Panel" remote capacitor transfer - becomes - "External transfer of condenser"
That will teach those noobs! |

Pepper Swift
Watchers of Eden
6535
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:05:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
I agree, a game should be challenging by the virtue of confusing naming conventions. In order to take EVE out of the hand of scrubs who need simple names, I propose to run all module names through at least 8 steps of Bad Translator, e.g.: remote shield booster - becomes - "To remove the wheel, the coat of arms" remote tracking enhancer - becomes - "Improved Panel" remote capacitor transfer - becomes - "External transfer of condenser" That will teach those noobs!
i would vote for this... EXCELLENT..
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1412
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:24:00 -
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Frank Pannon wrote:"I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve"
First of all you should not call new people "scrubs", just because they came to the game later than you.
Name changes can not make everyone happy (I did not like them), but if this is your biggest problem right now, than please consider yourself a very lucky person. this pretty much. i don't like the changes either but only because they make the game more bland and less science fictiony, not because they benefit "scrubs".
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |

Zaxix
Long Jump.
230
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:39:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
You're bitching about name changes? That's the "easy" you think is ruining the game?
Here's a suggestion for you: name every modules, every hull, every charge, every object, every structure, everything, name absolutely everything the same name. Everything should be named "Item." Will that make it hard enough for you?
I rarely come right out and say it, but you're complete idiot. Bokononist
-á |

Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
36
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:55:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
Scrub. |

Alexander Golitsyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:11:00 -
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That Seems Legit wrote:while I think you're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing, I do agree the energy link rename is pretty damn stupid. Capacitor is what the energy is stored in. So... that name might as well be "remote gas tank transfer" WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?
also, OP. they are removing the inconvenience of having to look at the info tab every time you compare two items/skills... its not dumbing the game down. it only affects you while you are training them, or getting used to them.
following your logic this change is also a "dumbing down", just because now you don't have to click "compare" tick the "meta level" box and sort it by meta...
Quote:The order of items in the Variations tab of the Show Info window is now correctly done by meta level.
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Freyya
You ain't got no alibi
65
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:36:00 -
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Barzai Mekhar wrote:umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
I agree, a game should be challenging by the virtue of confusing naming conventions. In order to take EVE out of the hand of scrubs who need simple names, I propose to run all module names through at least 8 steps of Bad Translator, e.g.: remote shield booster - becomes - "To remove the wheel, the coat of arms" remote tracking enhancer - becomes - "Improved Panel" remote capacitor transfer - becomes - "External transfer of condenser" That will teach those noobs!
You made me have a new hobby...
" WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?"
...35 translations later, Bing gives us:
"Latho"
I officially declare this thread to be derailed into a "what if i..."
"That will teach those noobs!"
...6 translations later, SDL gives us:
"That it will do this noobs educated! "
Just to keep in the module naming convention:
"ancillary armor repairer tech 1" ...8 translations later, Bing gives us: "Nurse/1 technology." or "Connect the bumper repair technician 1"
"ancillary shield booster tech 1" ...8 translations later, Bing gives us: "Improved support technology 1-coat of arms" or "Rocket technology, protection 1"
this is freakin awesome  |

BOHC Lotteries
BOHC Lotteries Corp
11
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:50:00 -
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Basically the only thing that is annoying about them renaming any modules is going around and updating all your fits with the new correct name.
Be in charge or alliance doctrines and have to do that **** everytime something gets renamed and now its annoying...
But since you are not anyone important in eve your whining about nothing.
Go play wow scrub |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
831
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Posted - 2013.09.05 07:32:00 -
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Adacia Calla wrote:umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
They are a business. They want to MAKE MONEY. If streamlining naming conventions brings them 100 subs, and makes you quit, then they made the right choice.
1or greater really, but 100 would be nice. Eve is Real |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3243
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:41:00 -
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Pepper Swift wrote:umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
Lol wut.. the post above complies with anyone will complain about anything.. this thread belongs in the sewage that is GD... Agreed. OP Please repost ****** thread in GD. I'll see you there o/ |

Aplier Shivra
30
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Posted - 2013.09.05 19:07:00 -
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My favorite "remote shield booster" bad translation is either: Delete the character to the scooters, or Tell me please tank
remote capacitor transfer- Remove the heat sink (i'm guessing you're supposed to tell laser boats this when you dont have a capacitor transfer, because heat sinks make them more cap hungry?) |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1313
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Posted - 2013.09.05 20:09:00 -
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umbora wrote:I am a little upset that the devs have dumbed eve down to make it easier on the scrubs who are learning i liked the fact that eve had a hard learning curve. Some of the changes i am talking about are the change in the name of the shield transporters to remote shield boosters which is just ********. Here is a small list of some of the modules that have had name changes to make them easier for the scrubs to figure out.
shield transporter - remote shield booster tracking link - remote tracking enhancer energy transfer - remote capacitor transfer
In the end what I am trying to say is that the Devs are making starting to make the game easier and that is taking away from the game in my opinion.
The use of the word 'scrubs' invalidates the rest of your post. This is not a signature. |

Zero Sum Gain
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:53:00 -
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I enjoyed that; thank you OP. |

Mathias Orsen
Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension
7
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:10:00 -
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What I didn't like... I didn't like when EFT was made. Before EFT, fitting ships effectively was a huge task. Now days, everyone is an EFT hero whom thinks they know something about every ship they have never flown.
That made a big difference in the pilots of EVE, you on the other hand are making jokes. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:12:00 -
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Mathias Orsen wrote:What I didn't like... I didn't like when EFT was made. Before EFT, fitting ships effectively was a huge task. Now days, everyone is an EFT hero whom thinks they know something about every ship they have never flown.
That made a big difference in the pilots of EVE, you on the other hand are making jokes.
With EFT you would think fail fits would be a thing of the past... |

umbora
Aperture Reach C.L.O.N.E.
11
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:22:00 -
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The thing is i have been looking further and further into what has been changed with this recent patch and it makes things easier and easier for people who dont want to do the research on mods to find out what they need to train. now all they need to do is look at the skills and they will tell you what modules they will open up and at what level they are opened at. this is just making the game simpler and simpler for the people who are to stupid to play the game normally. If you do not understand that it is making the game cheaper than you should quit playing the game because you are just a high sec carebear that hasnt really played the game yet because high sec is only about 1% of eve online.
Drunk Bastard who's AWOXing who |

xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
75
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Posted - 2013.09.06 06:49:00 -
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umbora wrote:The thing is i have been looking further and further into what has been changed with this recent patch and it makes things easier and easier for people who dont want to do the research on mods to find out what they need to train. now all they need to do is look at the skills and they will tell you what modules they will open up and at what level they are opened at. this is just making the game simpler and simpler for the people who are to stupid to play the game normally. If you do not understand that it is making the game cheaper than you should quit playing the game because you are just a high sec carebear that hasnt really played the game yet because high sec is only about 1% of eve online.
Drunk Bastard
It also means i have to spend less time teaching newbs.
Your an idiot. All this has done is decrease the need for something like eve mon to figure out what you need to train next |
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