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Tiaggo
Mawr Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:16:00 -
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I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:19:00 -
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Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo
So, you're asking CCP to give more stuff to those already playing several accounts wih plex they buy IG thx to their many ways to do billions per month with 3alts per account?
Noes, noes and triple noes. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
10
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:22:00 -
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Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo
One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D |

Tiaggo
Mawr Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:25:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo So, you're asking CCP to give more stuff to those already playing several accounts wih plex they buy IG thx to their many ways to do billions per month with 3alts per account? Noes, noes and triple noes.
Tanya I am asking for a bit of loyalty reward, not an "I win button"
All I am saying is that if i let my subs expire for a month or so I get an offer of 5 free days? So how about offering me 5 free days for every 3 months subs paid?
Its a thank you for continued support
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:27:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D
free expansions Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|) vastly more SP the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones. |

Tiaggo
Mawr Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:33:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Vaako Horizon wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D free expansions Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|) vastly more SP the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones.
Aur is something I guess, but the best companys out there are the ones the reward customer loyalty. If CCP never lost a customer whould they really need to try so hard to find new ones? All I am saying is that it is much harder to attract new business, so trying to reward the loyal customers can sometimes be worth much more than a new subscriber? |

Taint
A Pack Of Wolfes
7
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:33:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D
should only be 2003 acounts then :P |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
94
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:36:00 -
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suck it up butter cup welcome to how things have been done for decades in our "free" market. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

Tiaggo
Mawr Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:41:00 -
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Well if thats the case can I at least have a snow ball launcher and some snowballs in December?? lol |

Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
142
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:42:00 -
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if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.
it's stupid to pay you for stuff you have already done but I could imagine something forward-looking (similar to Blizzard's Annual WoW Pass) |
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Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
25
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:45:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.
As harsh as it sounds, it's truth.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. |

Tiaggo
Mawr Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:46:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.
Angry is such a strong word
I am only looking for a "thank you for sticking with us"
I just think CCP should reward loyalty
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:49:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims.
it's stupid to pay you for stuff you have already done but I could imagine something forward-looking (similar to Blizzard's Annual WoW Pass)
That is something they should consider... |

Nak hak
27
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:50:00 -
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CCP has a customer retention program is more like, "Don't let the door hit you on the way out. No baby,....please don't go. Bit*ch." Feel the love.
 "He that speaks much, is much mistaken." Dr. Ben Franklin
Best Regards, Nak hak |

Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
142
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:51:00 -
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Tiaggo wrote:I just think CCP should reward loyalty my point is that any substantial "reward" comes at a cost (to CCP) and if you have been loyal so far without any extra rewards chances are you will be loyal in the future without extra incentives.
past loyalty is not something anybody would want to pay for as it can't be taken back - but as I said maybe it would be a good idea for CCP to pay for future loyalty (especially if they expect to introduce sth that might make you want to quit).
edit: You have to explain how it is cheaper for CCP to pay you now while you are still happy instead of waiting until your loyalty slowly wears off (which might take years) and only start spending money on you once you are on the verge of quitting EVE. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:53:00 -
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Tiaggo wrote:[Tanya I am asking for a bit of loyalty reward, not an "I win button"
Well frankly, I wouldn't mind to:
-get a REAL Quafe T-shirt, get out take some drinks and hull tank some nerd Eve chicks !
-THA mug with boobies tattoo "Eve" on right one and "Is Real" On the other one, I'd use it every day !
-sticker with "Hull tanking inside, you can't test", I'd put one in my car and on my motorcycle !
Some ideas but I wouldn't like something in game that could by any possible mean give me some advantage just because I'm there for "x" time, unless, some sort of boosters package 3run bpc's whatever
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
61
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:56:00 -
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I understand where you're comming from, but you do have to consider, we usualy get a gift ship, we've been given free Aur, not that I've done anything with it, expansions are included as part of the subscription, we got to throw a revolt and had an impact.
Except for that accelerator gizmo, the gifting has been fair in my view. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 19:04:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:I understand where you're comming from, but you do have to consider, we usualy get a gift ship, we've been given free Aur, not that I've done anything with it, expansions are included as part of the subscription, we got to throw a revolt and had an impact.
Except for that accelerator gizmo, the gifting has been fair in my view.
Those free ships you are talking about? have you ever used them at all? :D I still have all mine... in the corp hangar where I wish for someone to steal them :D |

Bobbith
No Fish EVE Trade Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 19:21:00 -
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Most other services which offer freebies to new customers will do the same for existing customers, you just need to make a phone call and threaten to switch providers. Perhaps if you phone customer support and tell them you're going to switch to playing wow you might get a free month? |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
191
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Posted - 2011.10.29 20:09:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Vaako Horizon wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D free expansions Free AUR (yay, right? rite? :|) vastly more SP the list goes on. And really, CCP isn't unique at ALL in business. Just about every company offers incentives to new customers that they don't to existing ones.
lets not forget the free ships over te last 2 years and the quafe zero.
I think the OP is looking for his hand knitted nad warmers
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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Psychophantic
83
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Posted - 2011.10.29 20:33:00 -
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Ultima Online had the best vet rewards. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
11
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Posted - 2011.10.29 20:58:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Ultima Online had the best vet rewards.
Which was what? |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
194
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Posted - 2011.10.29 21:13:00 -
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sadly I must admit that when it came to vet rewards SWG had the best.
of course they forked everyone over 6 months later and gave them to noobs, but it was still the most consistently delivered and decent stuff. The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
61
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Posted - 2011.10.29 21:19:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:I understand where you're comming from, but you do have to consider, we usualy get a gift ship, we've been given free Aur, not that I've done anything with it, expansions are included as part of the subscription, we got to throw a revolt and had an impact.
Except for that accelerator gizmo, the gifting has been fair in my view. Those free ships you are talking about? have you ever used them at all? :D I still have all mine... in the corp hangar where I wish for someone to steal them :D
Well, go use them ... and please get them blown up, so mine appreciate in value. |

KaarBaak
134
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Posted - 2011.10.29 21:43:00 -
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Maybe CCP could pay all of our college loans while they're at it.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
347

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Posted - 2011.10.29 22:25:00 -
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Tiaggo wrote:Florestan Bronstein wrote:if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims. Angry is such a strong word I am only looking for a "thank you for sticking with us" I just think CCP should reward loyalty
We are currently looking at plans to do just that and loyalty should be rewarded.
We are developing a working process and getting people involved who can get this into motion. Once we have more details we will be talking to you about it  CCP Navigator - Lead Community Representative |
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Taint
A Pack Of Wolfes
8
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Posted - 2011.10.29 22:30:00 -
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well Ultima Online had "tokens" that people could actualy use in the game 1 year token 2. year tokens and so on, was a realy good idea they had in that game. |

Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2011.10.30 00:23:00 -
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concord immunity for one week would be a nice token You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
182
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Posted - 2011.10.30 00:25:00 -
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We need less people in this game, way too many blobs already. If we can get fleet sizes back to what we had three-four years ago, this game would be alot better. this is a signature |

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
135
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Posted - 2011.10.30 00:55:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Tiaggo wrote:I have noticed that there are all kinds of offers out there for new players. While I agree that CCP must always encourage new pilots and accounts I cant help but feel that as a long time subscriber to eve I go unnoticed,
Its a bit like when you bank offer the best rates to new customers, but existing customers are already hooked reeled and in the net. I would love to see CCP offer a unique ship, free plex, or maybe just a few days extra game time to those members who have taken the rough with the smooth.
I love the game, and I really enjoy the content. While I have not agreed with every development I do think that on a whole it does provide value for money. I cannot wait for the next expansion and have every play to stick with the game in the future.
Maybe just maybe CCP could see fit to reward its existing player base rather than continuely focus on the next possable subscription?
Thoughts & Comments Welcomed
Tiaggo One can argue that free expansions are the reward you seek ??? But yes, I agree to some extent that the oldies need a gesture of good will :D
Expansions? In my Eve? I can't remember the last real expansion. |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
196
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Posted - 2011.10.30 01:02:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:
Expansions? In my Eve? I can't remember the last real expansion.
are you kidding?
what about this year's rage, paranoia and mistrust expansion?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Tanya Fox
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2011.10.30 01:03:00 -
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Probably a worrying time for CCP, BF3 has been realeased the other day, 11/11/2011 will see Skyrim released and the 20th dec iirc will see the release of SWTOR.
So they're trying to tie people into the game, which is why the 2 for one deal for 6 months is a reasonable offer. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
11
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:53:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:Tiaggo wrote:Florestan Bronstein wrote:if you are not angry enough to cancel your subs there is no reason to spend resources on accommodation of your whims. Angry is such a strong word I am only looking for a "thank you for sticking with us" I just think CCP should reward loyalty We are currently looking at plans to do just that and loyalty should be rewarded. We are developing a working process and getting people involved who can get this into motion. Once we have more details we will be talking to you about it 
SoonGäó ... ... |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
175
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Posted - 2011.10.30 09:26:00 -
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how about 100k sp for every year you play? and a AUR token to buy a ship you might have missed in the past in a server wide distribution. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
108
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Posted - 2011.10.30 09:31:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:how about 100k sp for every year you play? and a AUR token to buy a ship you might have missed in the past in a server wide distribution.
Errr.. dumbest idea ever. 10/19 2011 - never forget the 20%
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Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp Flatline.
41
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Posted - 2011.10.30 09:31:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:how about 100k sp for every year you play?
Pff, that's about 1 1/2 days worth of skills-points. I can't see anyone getting too excited over that. Not that I can come up with anything decent myself now, mind you. |

Reeno Coleman
69
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Posted - 2011.10.30 09:38:00 -
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I don't see the point.
Eve already is very unique in a way that you increase your accounts worth constantly and uncapped, in way that a new account can never catch up with an old one.
If you were playing, say WoW, and rage about the seventeenth content reset after which everyone is on equal footing once again, I would get your argument, but in EvE that is just not true.
In a way I get much more out of the game, owed to a skill base larger than any new account can have.
In addition we do get: -free expansions -birthday and christmas presents -Aurum through the eveisreal site -the Power of 2 offer
Don't get me wrong. I don't say -NO- to more free stuff, but it's really not our place to complain I think. |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2011.10.30 09:38:00 -
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Re-allocate skill points every 12 months. |

Zaron Arzi
Depraved Corruption
0
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Posted - 2011.10.30 10:08:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Re-allocate skill points every 12 months.
This would be an awesome present =P One year, have 100 mil sp combat focused guy. Next year, 100 mil sp industry focused char. |

Taint
A Pack Of Wolfes
9
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Posted - 2011.10.30 11:24:00 -
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Misanth wrote:We need less people in this game, way too many blobs already. If we can get fleet sizes back to what we had three-four years ago, this game would be alot better. No we need more empty space in eve. |
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
236
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Posted - 2011.10.30 11:30:00 -
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Eve expansions aren't really true expansions. They are content patches that are called expansions. At least they are never good enough to actually charge extra for. Except Trinity and Apocrypha. Plus thats not even a good argument when comparing Vets to new accounts, since you know new accounts get them too.
EQ2 and UO had good "Vet Rewards" which depending on how old your account is you got some goodies. |

Taint
A Pack Of Wolfes
9
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Posted - 2011.10.30 11:43:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote: Vet Rewards" which depending on how old your account is you got some goodies.
This tbh. |

rodyas
The Scope Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.10.30 12:03:00 -
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BPC gift would be cool, and those also scale to how long you have played. Frigates for first years, and so forth. |

Kilmannan
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.30 12:55:00 -
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I understand exactly where the OP is coming from on this.
If you have a phone bill, a gas bill, an electricity bill, or any other kind of monthly payment to a company for a service and you try to leave for a better deal, they'll generally offer you a discount, reduced rates or a special offer.
I wanted to quit my ISP this week for various reasons and they offered me half price rates for the next six months.
I changed my electricity company last year but not before I spent three months on reduced rates to keep my custom.
I changed my mobile phone company this year and got again, reduced rates before I finally left.
So realistically, is there that much of a difference for paying CCP monthly for the game and having the occasional offer flung my way to keep me interested?
"Buy two months play time (Real money only) and get a third month free!"
"Buy three months play time (Real money only) now and get 'x' item and 'x' item free!"
All that sort of stuff.
Anyone that's sitting there going "Noes noes noes" needs to pull their tongue out of CCP's arse, stop being a fanboy and start being a consumer.
Just because it's online and a game doesn't make that simple truth any different.
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Lots of people talking about Vet rewards. That's just as bad as no reward. The easiest way for CCP to do this is simply offer extras with bulk play time purchases in real money only. The more you buy the bigger the reward. |

Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
43
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Posted - 2011.10.30 13:13:00 -
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What about you get a different free rookie ship when you die and go to a station without ships in it? One with gorgeous skin and slightly better stats that helps you to go and get a new ship faster? |
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