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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:19:00 -
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I see that the Occator is pretty tough. If I put additional defensive modules on it including rigs is it more or less gank proof ? My goal here is to transport 1-2 billion in stuff over 30 hops unattended through empire.
My other idea would be to use a Raven or some other battleship (cargo is not that bulky). Would that be a better idea?
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:42:00 -
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The cloak is not useful here. I want to move the stuff on autopilot. Cloak gets dropped whenever you go through a gate (or come close to another ship going through the same gate).
The scan proof aspect of the Viator is potentially useful.
In reality though how are they going to gank a heavily tanked Occator? Won't that take like 20 catalysts or something like that ? |

Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:23:00 -
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Anne McDonald wrote:As a nado pilot ganker I can give you some advice Never autopilot me and 2 other nados chased a hauler 5 jumps because my scanner scanned a mere 600mill in an autopiloting hauler that I grazed into 2% structure and had to use a second nado. 1-2bill of stuff attracts attention and I personally would hunt you to the ends of eve for that cargo, ship scanning and using eft on your fit to find damage holes and then murder your ass. Or as someone posted before catalysts would do the job and you can buy alot of catalysts before you start losing profit. Cheers for letting the whole of eve know you are doing this you have been watch listed, hey why wait on a gate for targets when they mention it on the forums win win!  Lots of love, Your friendly neighborhood ganker.
You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity. Farewell.
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:50:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:There's no such thing as gank-proof. There's gank-resistant, to a degree, but at the moment, none of the Deep Space Transports really have the beef to withstand a coordinated suicide gank, especially if you're on autopilot and giving the gankers time to line up their shots before you jump. DST design is more about being tackle-resistant, in any case, with the warp core strength to slip an opportunistic tackler or two at a non-hisec gate (but not enough to get through a coordinated, determined gate camp).
This hi-sec EMPIRE we are talking about here. I am not planning to autopilot through Fountain, ok? |

Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 18:15:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Marc Callan wrote:The closest you're going to get to gank-proof is "unprofitable to gank", where you're carrying enough EHP on your hauler that the cargo in your hold won't offset the ships that'll be lost to the suicide gank. And even then, you'll find people who will suicide-gank haulers for no rational reason at all, just in hopes that the victim will lose his temper and fly into a rage.
You can make it tough for them by flying gate-to-gate with MWD-cycling speed boosts to minimize your time to warp from gates, and you can tank up a hauler past the profitability point - my personal favorite setup is an Orca with triple shield hardeners, MWD, and the DC/bulkhead combo in the lows, for 200,000-plus EHP - but some people will just take that as a challenge. I think his ballsy post here kinda guarantees that some people will keep an eye out for him (for example, according to a locator agent he's in Jita 4-4 right now), just to pop for the lulz. 
I am transporting 1+ billion in modules and rigs from Jita to Dodixie sometime in the next 3 days.
I dare anybody to gank me. 
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:01:00 -
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Zane Lowe wrote:I haul expensive low-volume stuff in my proteus. 430k EHP totally passive tanked, which is usually good for hauling a bill or two afk. If I need to fly something really expensive, I switch to a more active tank and bring along a legion booster, bringing me up to ~750k EHP. Seems to work well.
How are you getting to 430k ? I saw this 400k fitting, but this is with implants, heat (not possible afk), fleet boost and LARGE trimarks. I don't think you can fit large trimarks to cruisers anymore, or at least my EFT will not allow it:
L5 Stats with Implants, Fleet Booster, and Heat: DPS - 606 (568 w/out heat) EHP - 457K (348K w/out heat) Speed - 506 m/s Align - 7.1s Cap - 56% w/out nos Ammo - Gallente Antimatter M Drones - Oger II x2, Hammerhead x2, Hobgoblin x1
EFT:
[Proteus, PVP 1] Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Dark Blood Warp Scrambler Domination Stasis Webifier
Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Gallente Navy Heavy Neutron Blaster, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.07 01:30:00 -
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This setup for the Occator seems to only get about 85k
[Occator, Occator EHP] Energized EM Membrane II Energized Thermic Membrane II Energized Kinetic Membrane II Energized Explosive Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
[empty med slot] [empty med slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:22:00 -
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I moved my stuff yesterday morning. Total was 2.5 billion.
I actually ended up using a frigate with cargo expanders on the theory that the less time I spent approaching the gate, the less likely it would be to attract attention.
Apparently it worked because the ship arrived safe and sound in Dodixie.
Thanks for the tips.
I am still interested in how that guy is able to get a Proteus to 470k EHP passively tanked (without fleet bonuses).
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