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Mobius Amatin
Maricel Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:03:00 -
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I am very confused about something and would appreciate some clarification. I belong to a player corp of 5 people. I am trying to earn faction for Minmatar. My understanding was that I could run storyline missions that would increase my faction standing without it being diluted by the rest of the corp. I did this when earning corp standing and it went fine.
Someone else told me though that when running faction missions, all faction reward will be divided among the other corp members regardless of whether they are in my fleet or not. Is this true? Do I need to leave the corp while trying to improve my faction standing? |
Rengerel en Distel
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:37:00 -
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Your personal faction standing will increase. The player corp faction standing is divided among all the players that have standing in the corp. If you open the corp window, switch to the standings tab, and right click on the faction, you can show compositions to see all the members and their standing with the faction. The total of everyone's standing will be divided by the number of people that have a standing. So if all 5 people in the corp have some standing with amarr, it will be divided by 5. But again, your own personal one will not.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Mobius Amatin
Maricel Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:19:00 -
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Having said that, are my personal faction standings taken into account when mounting a POS? I eventually want to mount a POS. Which standing is taken into account? Personal faction standing? Only corp faction standing? |
Rengerel en Distel
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:47:00 -
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Mobius Amatin wrote:Having said that, are my personal faction standings taken into account when mounting a POS? I eventually want to mount a POS. Which standing is taken into account? Personal faction standing? Only corp faction standing?
I was told that I need to run missions within a corp to raise corp faction standing. I thought that maybe I could run faction missions outside of the corp and once I raise my personal faction high enough, could then join a corp, wait 7 days and then the corp standing would increase.
A pos is launched for a PC corporation. The PC corporation has to have a faction standing high enough (in high sec). The PC corp faction standing is a composite of every members personal base standing with that faction (social skills don't apply).
Let's say you have an Amarr standing of 5.0, Petey has 3.22 and Jim Bob 7.3, and no one else has Amarr standing. Your corporation total would be (5.0 + 3.22 + 7.3)/3 = 5.17 so you'd be able to put up a POS in 0.5 sec Amarr.
The PC corp faction standing has nothing to do with how quickly you can get your personal standing increased. Running missions inside your corp, or outside it will not change that at all.
If you personally have a standing high enough to anchor a POS, and other people are bringing the corp total down, you can kick those people, wait a DT for the corp standings to readjust, then anchor the POS. You can then invite those people back into the corp. It will be 7 days before their standings bring the corp back down. Once anchored, you don' t need standings to online/offline the tower or anchor any other modules. You only need the standing to anchor the tower in the first place.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:48:00 -
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Mobius Amatin wrote:Having said that, are my personal faction standings taken into account when mounting a POS? I eventually want to mount a POS. Which standing is taken into account? Personal faction standing? Only corp faction standing?
I was told that I need to run missions within a corp to raise corp faction standing. I thought that maybe I could run faction missions outside of the corp and once I raise my personal faction high enough, could then join a corp, wait 7 days and then the corp standing would increase.
Definitely some muddled information here. I'm not even sure which parts need clarity, but here goes.
1) When you run missions -- whether you're in a corp or not -- you gain personal standings to the NPC corporation you run for.
2) When you run storyline missions -- whether you're in a corp or not -- you gain personal standings to the NPC faction you run for.
3) If you share standings with fleet mates, they can gain personal standings towards NPC corporations but not NPC factions.
4) If you're in a corporation for more than 7 days, your personal standings from NPC corporations and factions are factored into your corp standings towards the same.
5) Your corp standings are an average of all non-null personal standings towards NPC entities.
5a) To further complicate things, corp standings are calculated on "raw" personal standings -- ie, standings without social skills involved.
6) To anchor a POS, you need corp standings (that is, an average of all personal standings) towards an NPC faction to be 5.0+.
Does that help at all? Basically, it doesn't matter if you belong to your corporation while you raise faction standings or not. You have to get to the same level overall and it will take just as long either way. If you want to employ trickery, get your personal faction standings up and then boot anyone else in the corporation with non-0 standings towards that faction. Wait for downtime, invite them back, and anchor a POS within a week. |
Mobius Amatin
Maricel Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:20:00 -
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Very helpful information. I will ask you to clarify one thing. I had planned on running faction missions myself (I will be the one mounting the POS). I was also going to fleet with a corp mate when they ran their faction mission so that I could share in the reward and raise my faction standing faster. Based on what you said though on number 3, I'm not sure that will work. You mentioned that other fleet members can share corp standing but not NPC faction. Is NPC faction the same as Minmatar faction? Sounds like maybe I can only get the faction standing myself and not with the help of fleets from others? Please LMK.
Many thanks again for the help. |
Zaxix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:27:00 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics
edit: you cannot share faction standings. you can only share corporation and agent standings. note that your corporation standings are what is used for the POS. the standings are an average of the members in the corp. so unless ALL of you get your faction standings up, it's better for only one person to have the standings, so that he is the only one affecting the average.
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Baggo Hammers
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:51:00 -
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Can't you still kick everyone but yourself, get the standings you need and wait 24 hours so the corp standing rises? Or has that been changed?
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |
Mobius Amatin
Maricel Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.07 18:07:00 -
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Just when I thought I understood..... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:26:00 -
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PC = Player Character
NPC = Non Player Character.
All Factions are NPC with 2 types = Empire and Pirate.
Empire = Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, etc.
Pirate = Sansha, Guristas, Serpentis, Angel, etc.
2 types of Corporations = PC and NPC.
PC Corporations need unmodified Faction standing to anchor a POS in high security systems. The PC Corp's Faction standing is determined by adding all corp members base Faction standing and then dividing that total by the amount of members with the Faction standing.
To anchor a POS in a high sec space (0.5 to 0.7) the PC Corporation needs to have unmodified Faction standing equal to the solar system security rating. For example, to anchor a POS in Amarr Empire 0.7 high security system your PC Corporation will need to have unmodified +7.0 standing towards the Amarr Empire.
To quickly gain Faction standing, work the Event Agents. They give Faction standing increase.
When in fleet, only NPC Corporation standing is shared / gained by all fleet members. The Faction standing is only gained by the player who has the mission offer.
Hope this helps.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:14:00 -
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Mobius Amatin wrote:Very helpful information. I will ask you to clarify one thing. I had planned on running faction missions myself (I will be the one mounting the POS). I was also going to fleet with a corp mate when they ran their faction mission so that I could share in the reward and raise my faction standing faster. Based on what you said though on number 3, I'm not sure that will work. You mentioned that other fleet members can share corp standing but not NPC faction. Is NPC faction the same as Minmatar faction? Sounds like maybe I can only get the faction standing myself and not with the help of fleets from others? Please LMK.
Many thanks again for the help.
Read DMCs advice; he's answered the question.
Specifically though: no. Only storyline missions give faction standings (so in your case, Minmatar) and storyline faction rewards cannot be shared. The only way to raise your faction standings is to do so yourself, either by grinding your own storylines (accept and complete 16 missions yourself to get one) or through the various methods listed in the faction standing repair plan (circle agents, epic arcs, cosmos tag agents and the like). In any case, you have to do it yourself.
Once you have the faction standings needed to plant a POS, you can boot everyone else from your corporation and wait for a downtime. That should reset your corporation's faction standings to match yours. Once that's done, invite everyone else back. It will be a week before their standings affect your corporation's standings, so you have that long to plant a POS. |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:46:00 -
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What you really want to do:
You want a POS for yourself / your corp.
You put one guy in a corp with 5+ unmodified faction standings.
You have him in same alliance as your corporation.
Anything that doesn't require an item to be in corp hanger can be done by alliance members.
Doing it this way allows you to pull POS in during war decs and put it right back out again.
You can start with just the one toon and set a POS then let everyone in but you will be stuck having to defend the POS in any war where they are after your POS. |
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