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Ralinn
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Posted - 2006.01.09 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ralinn on 09/01/2006 14:18:13
And besides, all ships = pod controlled.. Which comes from the jovian.
Oops, you can no longer fly any ships as pods are restriced to jovian. 
It's a bad idea, simple as that.
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Oib Wane
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Posted - 2006.01.09 14:19:00 -
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That is a very odd thought Malthros... one likely derived from another popular MMO...
In this game it seems that no one is forced into doing anything... or realy even encoraged one way or another... much like in real life anyone can acheve anything they want it is just a matter of how much work they are willing to do.
Think of it this way... I am American and I drive a Japanese car that doesn't make me worse at driving my Toyota then say a Ford or Chevy actualy because I have chosen to learn to drive my car I am better at driving that import than I would be in an American car. So you see being born here grants me no atvantage... it is all about what I am used to. (I realise that cars are not all that diffrent but neather are space ships really... engines pointing one way... guns pointing the other)
EVE gives us freedom to make our charecters however we like... it is just a matter of working at it... I think in affecting your starting stats race affects plenty and the only other thing I could see it afecting is NPC relations in a very very small way.
Embrace the freedom man!
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2006.01.09 14:59:00 -
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 Originally by: 0V3RL0RD
All this talk of racial bonii, I have to pipe in and mention my ideas:
You should be able to pick one of two on character creation.
Amarr: 5% powergrid reduction on turrets (or -5% energy turret cap use)
Gallente: 5% CPU reduction on turrets (or 5% hybrid turret tracking)
Caldari: 5% CPU reduction on launchers (or 5% all launcher types' ROF)
Minmatar: 0 cap usage on all projectile turrets (or 5% velocity and 5% agility)
Tauren: War Stomp (2 second stun to all targets within 10 yards, 1 minute cooldown)
Note that the Minmatar bonii seem better, as they don't actually affect the amount of damage you deal out.
Gallente bonii are aimed at blaster users, but they'd work for rails too.
Anyway, it's all pipe dreams, they won't implement something like this once the game's been going for nearly 3 years.
They're the most ridiculously unbalanced ideas ever. Why would anyone pick anything other than Turret PG, Launcher ROF or velocity. The only true choice is the Gallente one, and both of those would be supremely overpowering. The fitting ones anyway are ridiculous, as you'd have "Amarr only" fits for Apocs squeesing on that last Tach, and "other people", who might have better skills overall, still can't fit it. Its ridiculous.
NO to any and all Race specifics.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:18:00 -
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Well, personally I would have loved to see a bonus for using your own faction's ships (an Amarrian using Amarrian ships getting some bonus and so on). As it is the races are actually pointless. Sometimes I wonder what CCP has created the vivid background for :P
Factional fleets look so much sweeter than the rabble mercenary gangs 99% of EVEs corps are :P
It's too late now though - something like that would have had to be introduced from start.
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Ralinn
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ralinn on 09/01/2006 15:48:26
Originally by: Tharrn
As it is the races are actually pointless. Sometimes I wonder what CCP has created the vivid background for :P
Realism? Not everything in a game needs to have a functional purpose.. That'd make for some very boring games.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:50:00 -
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Im a gallente with 14 base charisma.
What is being done about my plight?
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 15:52:00 -
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Sorry, we TOLD you the Gallente were descended from the French. What more could we have done to try to get you not to pick them?
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.01.09 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 09/01/2006 16:09:52
What are you talking about? If the french had charisma we'd be in BIG trouble!
I don't think there should be bonuses, because that would make picking race purely because of the stats and bonuses instead of the background even more important.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
What are you talking about? If the french had charisma we'd be in BIG trouble!
What I meant was that "Descendants of the French" translates to "Don't pick this race", nothing more.
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.01.09 16:11:00 -
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Well Intaki are not french, in fact, I don't think there is anything specifying what they are...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.01.09 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 09/01/2006 16:15:55
Originally by: Noriath
Well Intaki are not french, in fact, I don't think there is anything specifying what they are...
Haniblecter Teg is.
Intakis are...well...I don't know, they look like the descendants of the Hippy Colony to me.
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
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Amaii Templ
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Posted - 2006.01.09 19:24:00 -
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I'd like to see some kind of differences between the races. It'd have to be carefully chosen, of course, so that it's not devestatingly overpowered... But I think there should be some differences.
I'm kind of tired of seeing three Minmatar flying Apocs, and a Gallante duo flying Ravens.
But, that's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking something like, I dunno... Something non-trvial, that plays to each race's specific 'theme.'
Like, giving all Caldari one more Launcher hardpoint. Not an extra Hipower slot, just an extra Launcher.
Give Amarr an extra Turret slot.
Give Gallente +10 m^3 Drone Bay space and +1 Drone in Space.
Give Minmatar... I dunno, what is their 'thing', anyway? You get the idea. Something non-trivial, to customize your ship so that it's different in a good way from the same ship flown by a different race's peeps.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Time Killer
No way. I love the fact that there are no race or class based restrictions. None of this 'it is physically impossible for you to learn to fly a Caldari ship as well as a Caldari even if you wer born and raised flying Caldari ships' nonsensical limitation. It's not like the 4 races are different species - they're not they're all humans. If they were totaly differently evolved races then I can see why it might be physically impossible without major heavy modification to a ship to fly it as well as its progenitor race can because of differences in sensory input, pilot biology etc. But in the EVE world they're not weird alien species. They're humans - so genetically close that they can even interbreed.
It's like trying to say that someone of Japanese genetics will never understand UK culture enough to drive a right-hand drive car well, even if they're born and raised in the UK.
Your race gives you your attributes - the balance of which can never be fundamentally changed, only increased at different levels with selective use of skills and implants - and your starting direction. I like that. There's flavour without highly artificial rubbish restrictions like the D&D 3rd Ed thing that non-theives can neevr ever ever learn lip reading or somesuch tosh.
I strongly suggest you break out some history books and see what humans looked like 10-20000 years ago. You could most defintely evolve in different ways over the span of several thousand years. It wouldn't be anything major, but it'd be noticable. Hell look at the 'hobbit' findings of the south pacific.
Originally by: Oveur
I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
no, anyone should be able to fly anything. i'm a caldari focussed caldari, but i still don't want it
Do you people even read the post or just sum up what you think I'm saying?
Originally by: Oveur
I am not interested in "the lottery sucks" or "more tech 2 blueprints" since that is pretty much stating the obvious.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: HippoKing
no, anyone should be able to fly anything. i'm a caldari focussed caldari, but i still don't want it
Do you people even read the post or just sum up what you think I'm saying?
sorry. anyone should be able to fly anything to the same efficiency.
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.01.10 00:59:00 -
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PErsonally it is another shining example of genius of eve design. Open world, open character development....
your avatar is simply a visual representation of what you create through time. Think about it your asking for the lame gimptard design of okay so xxx race is the best for flying xxx so everyone will be that race ( yawn) who wants to be xxx, IE dwarf make the best paladin!
In eve it is wide open every race can be the best xxxx, far mroe diversity and less retarded lame min maxing nonesense.
So tired of gimptards who need to make up for being arsehats in real life by trying to make the dwarf warrior with the mostest hitpoints ever!!! or ya but my wizard has 23543465346 mana!!! and 34643563 intellegence, and you will never get that high because you picked hte wrong race hahaaahhaahahahahahahaha!
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ralinn
Edited by: Ralinn on 09/01/2006 02:33:19
My being foreign doesn't prevent me from being better at english than some americans I know.
your funny, americans cant/dont speak english...
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.01.10 01:07:00 -
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one word:
KALI
main race wars,cant wait.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Shira'v'Dhraal
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shira''v''Dhraal on 10/01/2006 08:34:56
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Noriath
What are you talking about? If the french had charisma we'd be in BIG trouble!
What I meant was that "Descendants of the French" translates to "Don't pick this race", nothing more.
Yet another contestant for the Retarded Xenophobic Moron of the Year prize.
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