Why do you hate armour and hull tanking?

That's why armor tanker uses armor repair kit or drones or another vehicle to fix himself. I think it may be like: your ship 100%-60% is ok, under 60% starts getting critical damage. If you fix before it gets critical and lose parts everything will be ok.

This was shown on fanfest.

And this cancelled, coz eve players didn't want it.

"Unfortunately, not many fancy the idea of what you ask for. "

I dont agree with you. For me it would be fancy, especially if i spend time on battles or cleaning after them :P If you are buisness man and you sit only above desk i dont get why you can say it ;)

True that... while I don't quite understand the aversion many players have against more randomization in battles, 'cause personally I think that would make combat a little more exciting (and "realistic" for that matter), it seams to be pretty consistent.

I could imagine of many ways to introduce systems damage/destruction... by linking it with structure (not armor, mind you, since that would defeat the purpose if it) or by even giving combatants the option to target different systems. I mean, we fly highly compex, sofisticated war machines, if they take enough punishment, certain parts are bound to fail at some point...

...alas, "realism" is a word the competitive minded EVE players (which are most of them) don't really like, because that's something they can't calculate with.

EDIT: I do still hope we atleast see a more complex visual damage model at some point, though... that would give more realism to combat without changing the system.

And of course, there could be for instance also negative effects for balance sake.

As i said, i didnt think about shield yet. So if you are sufferer, you can think with me.

Example.
When you use shield, no armor, your defense system is more sensitive. More things can go down.

Like old car (armor tank) and new car with many systems ( shield tank)

Don't worry about Danika, he's just always being ****** and trying to shoot down new ideas but see what happens when asked to think? Yea, disappears

Just keep polishing your idea, it makes sense realistically and i agree the visual effects would be nice for damage but those system damages could be hard to pull off and balance.

Keep up the good work

I admit it would be cool to attack several weakpoints or kill specific Ship parts like in Homeworld 2.

But i think the acutal gameplay in eve doesnt Support it properly without getting anoying pretty fast.

What would be the point of saving them if they're too crippled to do anything useful?

The mess of illiteracy in this thread is headache inducing. In either case, the day EVE becomes this realistic is the day I stop playing. Realism can only go so far in videogames before it isn't fun for a large majority of people that play videogames.. and they play them because they are entertaining, not necessarily because they are realistic.

As to your metaphor with War Thunder, I've never seen a more unbalanced damage profile than in that game. Russian planes may as well be the "immovable" object while the other planes are so paper thin, a gust of wind is usually enough to throw them into the ground. I haven't played in a few months because of that so things may have improved but damn was it bad if it still isn't.

My 2 cents...

if module or ship failure will occur regardless of your tanking style... why fit a tank at all? You might as well fit for full gank and try to kill or cripple as many hostile ships as possible, die, and then go back in a brand new gank ship to polish off the survivors... after all... they ARE crippled.

While I would like to see graphics of my ship being torn asunder, I wouldn't enjoy mechanics such as these as they just add needless complexity and randomness (and there is A LOT of hate for "chance based" mechanics... look at ECM).

When i talk about my idea i will compare it with Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 TV series).

Nowadays at EVE i "see" ships not damaged (100%HP) or total destroyed (BOOM and there is wreck only).

Why not make things more complicated. When plane gets some damage, it may lose power on a board, may lose control of some modules, it also can lose part of itself i mean cut wing or lost engine. Why not make it here. When your ship doesnt have shield, and it got big damage from missle or torpedo, it will burn, or lose control of some gun, or lose part of ship. That would make battles harder, more realistic, tactic at battlefield will be more important than crazy rush.

Other way may be "control of shields". If i have a big ship, i would like to control my power and direction of shields. If my enemy is only in front of me, so i dont need my back shield, i can put it in front of me. Now at battlefield you must be not only strong, but smart also. Small bomber at your back may finish you ( EVE is co-op game).

Returning to damage control. When you lose at fight your one engine, or some guns, or part of hull, someone another can pick them up, fix them and sell on a market ( i am sure most of you saw outer space battlefields full of wrecks and parts). But you must buy another for your ship, you can fix your ship but you cant fix what you dont have. So if you fly without some engine your speed is reduced or even you can not leave system, when you lost part of hull your hp is reduced/ modules may work not at 100%, or make random events.

For a first message I think it is enough, but when i think more about it, i get more ideas.

So the reward for being a player who doesn't lose their ship is to have to limp home and get it repaired,
rather than continue to participate in and have fun with the battle the damage occurred in?
Personally, I'd rather explode and get another ship.

"If I get my engines and guns smashed off when I try to armour tank, then armour tanking is worthless."

That's why armor tanker uses armor repair kit or drones or another vehicle to fix himself. I think it may be like: your ship 100%-60% is ok, under 60% starts getting critical damage. If you fix before it gets critical and lose parts everything will be ok.

This was shown on fanfest.

And this cancelled, coz eve players didn't want it.