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Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:03:00 -
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I think we all can see that since cruise missles got buffed, the torps has become obsolete. Right now, cruise has 90-95%of the dps of torpedo and doesnt have any range issue, holds alot more ammo with a slower ROF.
Torpedo being a short range weapon should at least get a huge ammo capacity (50) at least and should have a way faster ROF. Right now the difference between cruise and torp is about 1s. The difference should be at least 4-5 seconds. Also why do we have to cout volleys with a short range weapon? it should be cruise missles that travel very slow and need to count volley not torpedos!
so here are some ways to buff torps without actually buffing the dps
1) increase the ammo capacity to 40
2) increase ROF to 4s a volley (lower the damage per vollley so dps is the same)
3) switch torp missile speed with cruise missile speed ( adjust the flight time of both so the range is unchanged Cruise should count volley when it doesnt have any range issues)
4) lower the price of faction torpedos (why is it average of 4k isk per missile? why is the price so high)
So on paper nothing really changed but in practice it will make torps a lot more attractive with fast firing low volley damage that is very different than cruise missiles. Right now they are both kinda similar in volley damage. |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:25:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Azlin kenjui wrote:I don't use any of this but ccp doesn't really effect the price of products that is the player base making the ammo. :) cruise should be faster then a Torp not sure if that's what you were saying. Maybe make torps more focused dmg as a cruise can have a larger radius? This is disingenuous. CCP can change the price of anything (albeit indirectly) by making it easier to get. In this case, if you want to make faction ammo cheaper, you could just lower the LP store costs to get it.
yup i bet its the lp conversion thats driving the price so high. also I am guessing because torpedos are so unpopular , the seller must make the price very high to make it worth selling. So maybe the problem is torpedos being very bad right now, no one wants to buy them which is why the high price. |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:55:00 -
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Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:02:00 -
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unidenify wrote:Real problem for the torp missile is a limited range compared to the Cruise missile.
Fury Torp does a max dps of 1182, however the fury torp has only 1/6 range of a Fury Cruise. Meanwhile, the Fury Cruise will do 3/4 of the fury Torp's dps. Plus, Missile has a 100% effective dps from 0 to max range of the missile.
So, pilot would suffer low effective when armed with torp comparing to Cruise.
Solution:
Nerf Cruise Missile DPS
of
Nerf Cruise Missile Range
or
Buff Torp Missile Range
or
Buff Torp DPS
All calculate is on the Caldari Navy Raven with Level 5 Char with the 4 BCS II and T2 Launchers
since most people who are against buffing torp say that they do enough dps, my solutions on the first post would makes torpedos more attractive to use and cruise missle lesser attractive without actually changing their dps or damage application. Right now, torps has a lot of disadvantages for a little bit of damage increase |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:31:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Roseline Penshar wrote:just lower the torp sig radius that will make torp a very good, but it will buff SB and many bomber will be seen ganking everywhere Bombers already push stupid amounts of dps with torps at ridiculous ranges, ad a single TP (most have mids to) and you have no trouble hitting hard not matter the ship size, specially under MWD Torps are ok what is not ok is TPs, those need some tweaks to increase dmg application just like you do it with TE's, as different as they seem both have same utility: increase dmg application TP's are not ok yet, torps yes they are.
so torps are essentially ruined for BS but is still acceptable because they work perfectly fine on bombers. Anyone not see a problem here?
Also, how hard is it to lower the bonuses on the bomber and buff the torps so both BS and bomers can use this system effectively? why ccp only loves the bombers and not BS |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:43:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Torpedo Range is a joke. The only BS that can use them effectively is the Golem, and not content with it being slow already, CCP plan to make it slower still. The velocity and flight times of Torps needs a massive boost. T2 Torps should have a 60 KM range and Javelins up to 80 KM.
They might actually get used then.
As things stand currently, there is NO reason to choose Torps over CMs for Lvl 4 PVE.
Being a short range weapon, i dont think we can hope for any incrrease for range. Most would not even support this. What we can at least hope for is to increase the travel velocity and decrease flight time . I find the wait to be the most annoying. also the 18rounds to be way to small. Again i think we have to blame the bombers on this as increasing the number of missiles per reload would make them OP. maybe the real problem is bombers sharing the same weapon system as the BS. |
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