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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:06:00 -
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not that I'm complaining, I don't think my Raven is overpowered or anything.. just wanted to let everyone know. ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:15:00 -
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yes I can fit 6 rocket launchers, 2 autocannons, 3 sensor boosters, 3 capchargers and 5 wcs quite easily.
what's your setup?
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Pict1on's Gf
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:21:00 -
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lol try putting 6 t2 luncers and a xl booster ( have to have it for 0,0 hunting anr pvping for that matter) and put 3 bcus on it.. i dare you to fit that with a shield boost ampl... and then repeat that raven is easy fitting... the raven wuld need about 50 more cpu to be realy easily *****ble
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul yes I can fit 6 rocket launchers, 2 autocannons, 3 sensor boosters, 3 capchargers and 5 wcs quite easily.
what's your setup?
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Copenhagen
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Posted - 2006.01.09 20:37:00 -
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you can run 6 civilian shield boosters almost indefinitely - almost
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:14:00 -
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lol, then why do i have a PDS and a Co-proc on mine if it's so easy to fit. I have all fitting skills maxed even Adv. Wep. Upgrades. Im not even talking about t2 siege those are retartedly hard to fit. --------------------------------------------- <Make ECM Burst useful> ECM Burst Idea! |
Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:15:00 -
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try fitting a mega,thats even easier
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon try fitting a mega,thats even easier
<3 .... Sarcasme ftw
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Velsharoon try fitting a mega,thats even easier
nothing is as easy as fitting a 1400mm t2 tempest :)
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:51:00 -
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why do ut hink are t2 xlarge shieldbooster that cheap? cause ravens cant fit em.
why do u think are the t2 launchers so cheap? cause its a biatch to fit em.
why do t2 bcus have such an high cpu usage, too btw?
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ro prefect
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Posted - 2006.01.09 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: ro prefect on 09/01/2006 22:01:23
Someone give me their extra CPU and Grid then as I can't fit all my Siege launchers, 2 E500's, and XL Boosters like I want to. I have a hell of a time fitting everything I need on it and need to skimp on things so it flys.
And I personally can't afford the 30-100m isk items that have the lower grid/cpu so I can fully fit the raven.
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aeti
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:12:00 -
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works for me (tm) :/
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aeti
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Pict1on's Gf lol try putting 6 t2 luncers and a xl booster ( have to have it for 0,0 hunting anr pvping for that matter) and put 3 bcus on it.. i dare you to fit that with a shield boost ampl... and then repeat that raven is easy fitting... the raven wuld need about 50 more cpu to be realy easily *****ble
that fits
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.09 22:22:00 -
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Siege II x 6 XL C5 Booster x 1 Boost Amp x 1 Large Azero Extender x 2 T2 hardener x 2 BCU II x 4 Co-pro II x 1
fits with over 1000pg and 34.5cpu. Fit some frigate guns in the last 2 high slots and pack medium drones + one webber drone and you are setup for 0.0 rat hunting.
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ro prefect
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Siege II x 6 XL C5 Booster x 1 Boost Amp x 1 Large Azero Extender x 2 T2 hardener x 2 BCU II x 4 Co-pro II x 1
fits with over 1000pg and 34.5cpu. Fit some frigate guns in the last 2 high slots and pack medium drones + one webber drone and you are setup for 0.0 rat hunting.
I'm sorry, but you still have 2 unused high slots. Try putting 2 heavy NOS in there that is badly needed to help with the huge drain from the booster. And you are also using a CPU, if the raven is easy to fit you should not need a CPU.
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ro prefect
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Posted - 2006.01.09 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: ro prefect on 09/01/2006 23:12:10
Originally by: aeti works for me (tm) :/
Well, I can't even get close to fitting everything I what for lvl 4 missions. There is one high slot I just don't use as I do not have the CPU/Grid for it. I am sure with a lot more SP and expensive equipment I could do it, but I disagree that it is too easy to properly fit a raven (especially for lvl 4 missions)
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.10 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: ro prefect
Originally by: Sarmaul Siege II x 6 XL C5 Booster x 1 Boost Amp x 1 Large Azero Extender x 2 T2 hardener x 2 BCU II x 4 Co-pro II x 1
fits with over 1000pg and 34.5cpu. Fit some frigate guns in the last 2 high slots and pack medium drones + one webber drone and you are setup for 0.0 rat hunting.
I'm sorry, but you still have 2 unused high slots. Try putting 2 heavy NOS in there that is badly needed to help with the huge drain from the booster. And you are also using a CPU, if the raven is easy to fit you should not need a CPU.
I quite clearly state what you can shove in those 2 high slots (we are on about npcing remember), and quite franky if you're *****ing about having to use a single co-pro to fit mostly t2 gear then I suggest you try and fit a megathron or 1400mm tempest.
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MWEI
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Posted - 2006.01.10 02:56:00 -
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Hmm, I have maxed CPU skill and having problem fitting 6x t2 heavy missile launcher + 2 heavy nos. have to drop a nos for the setup to fit I do have 6x t2 BCU in the low...
but then again my weapon upgrade is only at 4...
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Nadalia
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: MWEI
I do have 6x t2 BCU in the low...
Uh, hehe?
You do realize that stacking has changed with RMR, don't you?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nadalia
Originally by: MWEI
I do have 6x t2 BCU in the low...
Uh, hehe?
You do realize that stacking has changed with RMR, don't you?
the more obvious point is that the raven only has 5 low slots...
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:16:00 -
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My megathron died today, perhaps if i could fit t2 it might have been different. alas alack and so forth.
Even with cpu implants and all named stuff i still had to use modal electons :(
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Megadon
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:21:00 -
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Raven has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much CPU. I was able to put 4 strip miner II's on the damn thing yesterday! and still had cpu to spare! what the heck is that?!?
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:35:00 -
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Are T2 things hard to fit on a Mega even with a co-proc or do you guys cry because you want uber stuff and no fitting modules nessasary? --------------------------------------------- <Make ECM Burst useful> ECM Burst Idea! |
LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol Are T2 things hard to fit on a Mega even with a co-proc or do you guys cry because you want uber stuff and no fitting modules nessasary?
No, but because fitting cpu on mega gimps either your damage or your tank. On raven it actually gimp only runawayability since you don't really have anything worth fitting in lowslots apart from wcs, same as vagabond. (after you put 3x dmg mods)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC No, but because fitting cpu on mega gimps either your damage or your tank.
Clearly quoted by someone who believes too much of what they read on the forums.
If a fitting mod allows you to fit something better in other slots, its not a wasted slot at all.
The 'blasters should use 0 CPU and have no cap drain' gang have a lot of people brainwashed into thinking every ship should be able to fit a full rack of anything it wants. Its not true. Fitting mods are there to allow you to use stuff in tandem that you wouldnt normally be able to. My favourite fittings for two ships I fly at the moment both use grid upgrades - Rupture with an RCU, and Rifter with an MAPC.
To say that any kind of fitting mod gimps your setup means you....uh.....need to spend more time in game and less time ripping setups from the forums, tbh.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: LUKEC No, but because fitting cpu on mega gimps either your damage or your tank.
Clearly quoted by someone who believes too much of what they read on the forums.
If a fitting mod allows you to fit something better in other slots, its not a wasted slot at all.
The 'blasters should use 0 CPU and have no cap drain' gang have a lot of people brainwashed into thinking every ship should be able to fit a full rack of anything it wants. Its not true. Fitting mods are there to allow you to use stuff in tandem that you wouldnt normally be able to. My favourite fittings for two ships I fly at the moment both use grid upgrades - Rupture with an RCU, and Rifter with an MAPC.
To say that any kind of fitting mod gimps your setup means you....uh.....need to spend more time in game and less time ripping setups from the forums, tbh.
Ty, but i have flown mega long long time, untill i discovered dominix, and i certainly know what fits and what not. On AC tempest you don't need any upgrades, same on vaga which is ridiculously overpowered hac atm.
Oh, but wait, i have to fit grid module on crusader too, on taranis i have one usually... on ares i need acutally 2x mapc(or mapc +pdu), same for malediction, retribution... your argument is pointless. I remember pre rmr ruptures with dual180mm guns + 1600mm plate while thorax could only dream of cruiser guns + 1600mm plate.
But as u said, i'm brainwashed and so i just finished training cybernetics 5... so i can use -5% cpu implant, but that's something you never probably heard of.
I use no guns... i smack to death. |
without
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol Are T2 things hard to fit on a Mega even with a co-proc or do you guys cry because you want uber stuff and no fitting modules nessasary?
No, but because fitting cpu on mega gimps either your damage or your tank. On raven it actually gimp only runawayability since you don't really have anything worth fitting in lowslots apart from wcs, same as vagabond. (after you put 3x dmg mods)
signed
i hate those freking noobs complaining about their raven fittings. raven pawns blasterthron at 5km FFS. let alone from 100km down
u want a t2 uber raven fitting
6 siege t2 (2 what ever fits) 1 t2 xl booster, 1 amp, 2 t2 invols, 1 sensor booster, 1 20km (or another t2 invol) 3 BCU t2. 1 cpu. 1 what ever u feel like
thermal javelin torps.
that is one of the best BS setups there are.
but the raven carebares want to be able to fit 2 large nos on too. for one thing, caldari are long range so need no nos,
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: without but the raven carebares want to be able to fit 2 large nos on too. for one thing, caldari are long range so need no nos,
Always *****s me up that their 'short range' weapons outrange my autocannons by like 50x over :(
And *****s me up that they refuse to fit copros because they 'gimp you setup'.
Yeh, fitting tech 2 siege and filling those extra 2 highs at the cost of a low is so suckage :S
Educating Eve forum denizens as to the error of their ways since 2005. |
Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: without but the raven carebares want to be able to fit 2 large nos on too. for one thing, caldari are long range so need no nos,
Always *****s me up that their 'short range' weapons outrange my autocannons by like 50x over :(
And *****s me up that they refuse to fit copros because they 'gimp you setup'.
Yeh, fitting tech 2 siege and filling those extra 2 highs at the cost of a low is so suckage :S
signed,
fitting 7 t2 neutron blasters onto my megathron with maxed skills i get about 720dps useing 7 high sltos (and u cant fit a mwd or a large rep + injecter with this since they are so hard to fit, and thus u are limited to 15km max range 10km to be more realistic) so its a poor tank, usually with a medium armor rep only with about +48% resistance to everything
a 6siege t2 raven gets near 650DPS [of any damage type they choose] then they have 2 slots free for medium nos then they have the BEST short term BS tank [which is ideal in pvp] i can fit xl t2 booster, amp, 2/3 invols, 3 dmg mods and 6seige t2. so they do about 70DPS less, but have 10x the range [ and because i fight in optimal im doing less dmg then my calculated 720]
so for 70DPS less they get 10x the range, a tank that reps 780HP per 5 sec for 360cap vs our [1 t2 large rep = 800rep per 12sec for 400cap] in effect they have > 2 t2 large reps
so if ccp gives my blasters 20x the optimal, and increases my PG and CPU enough to fit 2 t2 large reps, adds another low slot. then i will have a raven
OH one more thing, your lucky with ur 340sig, u dont take full damage, wait until they start useing TP drones on u or use t2 javelin torps, gives them antoehr 15% dmg vs ur pest
and then they have the nerve to complain
OMG CCP MY UBER PAWN MOBILE SHIP, It can fit 6 t2 seige, a equivilant of 2 large t2 armor reps tank, ability to choose its dmg type, ability to hit at 90km with near blasterthron dmg, but i have to fit a cpu mod, oh noes i have the best ship in game, but pls decrese launcher cpu or increase raven cpu cos i dont want to fit a cpu mod, insted i want to fit stabs
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:19:00 -
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and another thing, all thsoe *****es that use the stupid retarded argument of, yeh i can pawn any BS in game but i only do 2 dmg to cepters
FFS dont u ppl ever shoot torps at cepters. i have no feking problem doing 50 dmg to a cepter that is orbiting me useing torps. i mean ffs, u do 50*6=300dmg per salvo, enough to make a frig run in a few shots. and then u got a drone bay able to fit 5 t2 small explove drones
whereas my long range guns have no chance to hit a cepter orbitting me from 50km or less. and if u know how to fly a cepter properly then my long range guns cant hit u at even 100km, its just that most cepter pilots are stupid and fly directly to u or close enough
my short range guns cant hit a -90% webbed cepter, and u ppl are complaining about getting only 50dmg per shot?
fine u do 2 dmg a shot if the cepter is mwd and is out of web range, but thats teh same with us turret users, zero dmg is mwd and out of webber range
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