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Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
177
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:14:00 -
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In the recent months there have been a lot of finger pointing and blaming for the incident at Colelie from various groups, both involved and not involved. What all sides have agreed upon was the senseless loss of human life that day, yet nothing seems to have been mentioned of the families of those lost.
After much thought and consideration, the Order of the Ebon Rose will be donating 30m ISK to the establishing and running of three state-of-the-art orphanages and shelters within the Minmatar Republic. Primarily, these centers will take in orphans and single parent families that are struggling in lieu of lost ones in the events at Colelie. Once those have been seen to, the centers will be open to others in need.
On top of the initial investment, the Order pledges an annual donation of 3m ISK (1m to each center) to insure supplies, staffing, and other needs can be met in order to serve those in need.
Staffing and the daily operations of said centers will be in the hands of the Republic, though the Order will maintain oversight of the operation. The Order will also be providing transportation, free of charge, to any of the families or children of those lost at Colelie to these centers should it be required.
The initial investment will be paid in full, by myself and the annual donations will be handled by the Order itself.
If you have any questions or concerns, you are free to contact me.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2053
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:58:00 -
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Ishuk-Raata will pledge another 100,000,000 ISK of our non-essential funds to this cause.
... yes, I have a soft spot for the little ones.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
177
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:03:00 -
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The Order is grateful and touched by the generous donation.
Mere thanks does not seem enough for such generosity. Know that it will be put to good use.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Ruby Amatucci
Tomorrowland Orphanage
Shaktipat Revelators
46
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:56:00 -
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I am really, really happy to see other capsuleers caring about the welfare of children.
Tomorrowland Orphanage would like to contribute in our own small way. We are prepared to accept two hundred new children into our care. Besides food, a home, love and comfort, we will give each of them an education, new and individually customized parents and all the upgrades they need to achieve their dreams.
We give the Order of the Ebon Rose our best hopes and wishes. May you bring happiness. |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
182
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:52:00 -
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The Order is touched by the offer put forward on behalf of the Tomorrowland Orphanage and I am glad to see that there are others who care for the welfare of the children. That you would offer to take in so many needy children and provide them with all that you indicate is quite touching.
That stated, the Order's purpose here is to not just aid these unfortunate victims, but also to provide the means for the Minmatar to help strengthen and provide a deeper sense of community for their less fortunate kinsmen. The funds being donated will ensure that these facilities will be able to not only handle the numbers, but easily provide the staff with the tools necessary to help educate and heal these children and bring them up with a stronger sense of the extended family that I have heard from many other Minmatar that I have had the pleasure of knowing.
Again, the Order is glad for the offer of assistance, and unfortunately must decline it at this time.
Should the occasion come, the Order does look forward to possible future collaboration with the Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
18
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:22:00 -
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Why, with the donations of the Order and of Ishuk-Raata, I do believe that these children are fast on their way to living in a house built of megacyte!
Although I wouldn't recommend that with what, the explosive traits and all.
While the Institute of Social Development does not see the need for further investment, be assured that we are committed to the cause of assisting the victims of the recent unpleasantness. While some lives have already been needlessly lost, it is our hope that through this initiative, no more will come to harm by simple social proximity to the incident.
We offer our full services as a lobbying organisation to the Order and this program, and will be happy to intercede on its behalf with the Matari regime should it provide any trouble or impose undue bureaucratic regimes upon what is ultimately a good thing for all those involved. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force
1236
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:54:00 -
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Do you posses any way of letting us make sure our donations are being spent appropriately? I'm all for helping the children but and unfortunate downside of today's society is that many "charitable" organizations are staging massive scams under the guise of helping others.
Not that this is a personal jab at you or those that need help, it's just a precaution.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Trensk Mikakka
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Innovia Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:04:00 -
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Yes, I would also like to know the answer to the question Fred posed.
And, I applaud your services to the orphans. I will make donations soon, and if needed I'll volunteer my time and my poor, dusty old Tayra to haul supplies for you. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1670
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:15:00 -
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Steffanie Saissore wrote:The Order is touched by the offer put forward on behalf of the Tomorrowland Orphanage and I am glad to see that there are others who care for the welfare of the children. That you would offer to take in so many needy children and provide them with all that you indicate is quite touching.
That stated, the Order's purpose here is to not just aid these unfortunate victims, but also to provide the means for the Minmatar to help strengthen and provide a deeper sense of community for their less fortunate kinsmen. The funds being donated will ensure that these facilities will be able to not only handle the numbers, but easily provide the staff with the tools necessary to help educate and heal these children and bring them up with a stronger sense of the extended family that I have heard from many other Minmatar that I have had the pleasure of knowing.
Again, the Order is glad for the offer of assistance, and unfortunately must decline it at this time.
Should the occasion come, the Order does look forward to possible future collaboration with the Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Should I point out that the Tomorrowland Orphanage is part of the Shaktipat Revelators alliance? Who knew that Master had a soft spot for the little ones? |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2057
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:36:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Steffanie Saissore wrote:The Order is touched by the offer put forward on behalf of the Tomorrowland Orphanage and I am glad to see that there are others who care for the welfare of the children. That you would offer to take in so many needy children and provide them with all that you indicate is quite touching.
That stated, the Order's purpose here is to not just aid these unfortunate victims, but also to provide the means for the Minmatar to help strengthen and provide a deeper sense of community for their less fortunate kinsmen. The funds being donated will ensure that these facilities will be able to not only handle the numbers, but easily provide the staff with the tools necessary to help educate and heal these children and bring them up with a stronger sense of the extended family that I have heard from many other Minmatar that I have had the pleasure of knowing.
Again, the Order is glad for the offer of assistance, and unfortunately must decline it at this time.
Should the occasion come, the Order does look forward to possible future collaboration with the Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Should I point out that the Tomorrowland Orphanage is part of the Shaktipat Revelators alliance? Who knew that Master had a soft spot for the little ones?
She was attempting to avoid the now impending shitstorm of TSF posters in her thread.
Great job, Chin.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1671
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:38:00 -
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What am I? Psychic? |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2057
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:58:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:What am I? Psychic?
No, just Civire.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |
Constantin Baracca
34
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:38:00 -
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I honestly doubt my aid will be accepted, circumstances considered. However, I would love to donate isk if I am able on behalf of my benefactors.
At the very least, I could deliver a shipment of toys. At least someone has the decency to deal with the costs of the human checkers game being played in the cluster.
At the very least, accept my sincere good wishes.
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
1763
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:56:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Steffanie Saissore wrote:The Order is touched by the offer put forward on behalf of the Tomorrowland Orphanage and I am glad to see that there are others who care for the welfare of the children. That you would offer to take in so many needy children and provide them with all that you indicate is quite touching.
That stated, the Order's purpose here is to not just aid these unfortunate victims, but also to provide the means for the Minmatar to help strengthen and provide a deeper sense of community for their less fortunate kinsmen. The funds being donated will ensure that these facilities will be able to not only handle the numbers, but easily provide the staff with the tools necessary to help educate and heal these children and bring them up with a stronger sense of the extended family that I have heard from many other Minmatar that I have had the pleasure of knowing.
Again, the Order is glad for the offer of assistance, and unfortunately must decline it at this time.
Should the occasion come, the Order does look forward to possible future collaboration with the Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Should I point out that the Tomorrowland Orphanage is part of the Shaktipat Revelators alliance? Who knew that Master had a soft spot for the little ones?
She was saying no, diplomatically.
Then you had to go step in it. Sheesh, Pieter. |
Confliktus
Cupid Stunts.
The Wolfpack Nexus
27
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:26:00 -
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Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Steffanie Saissore wrote:The Order is touched by the offer put forward on behalf of the Tomorrowland Orphanage and I am glad to see that there are others who care for the welfare of the children. That you would offer to take in so many needy children and provide them with all that you indicate is quite touching.
That stated, the Order's purpose here is to not just aid these unfortunate victims, but also to provide the means for the Minmatar to help strengthen and provide a deeper sense of community for their less fortunate kinsmen. The funds being donated will ensure that these facilities will be able to not only handle the numbers, but easily provide the staff with the tools necessary to help educate and heal these children and bring them up with a stronger sense of the extended family that I have heard from many other Minmatar that I have had the pleasure of knowing.
Again, the Order is glad for the offer of assistance, and unfortunately must decline it at this time.
Should the occasion come, the Order does look forward to possible future collaboration with the Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Should I point out that the Tomorrowland Orphanage is part of the Shaktipat Revelators alliance? Who knew that Master had a soft spot for the little ones? She was saying no, diplomatically. Then you had to go step in it. Sheesh, Pieter.
Getting hold of your recruits at a young age are we? |
Sofia Roseburn
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
53
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Posted - 2013.09.11 09:00:00 -
[16] - Quote
Age isn't really an issue, although I do believe Degen crews his ships entirely with old men.
If only we had more people like Launette Vylier. |
Confliktus
Cupid Stunts.
The Wolfpack Nexus
27
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Posted - 2013.09.11 09:58:00 -
[17] - Quote
Sofia Roseburn wrote:Age isn't really an issue, although I do believe Degen crews his ships entirely with old men.
So long as the sub... person is willing then everything is fair to you people. |
Vincent Pryce
Utopian Research I.E.L.
90
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Posted - 2013.09.11 10:29:00 -
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Nation is known for growing children inside metal exoskeletons to be use as labourforce and security. In a unity of human and machine, one of the aspects of Kuvakei's vision. I wonder how many infants has Tomorrowland Orphanage delivered for this purpose?
Vincent Pryce
Archangel of Asakai |
Celes Tenebrae
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:04:00 -
[19] - Quote
Vincent Pryce wrote:Nation is known for growing children inside metal exoskeletons to be use as labourforce and security. In a unity of human and machine, one of the aspects of Kuvakei's vision. I wonder how many infants has Tomorrowland Orphanage delivered for this purpose?
While I've served on the board of Tomorrowland Orphanage as governess, none.
Please, everybody, lets leave the children out of our disputes. Ms Saissore and Ms Amatucci are both taking positive measures to help children left alone as a result of conflicts that we all chose for them.
I'd ask that if you aren't of a mind to offer your help, please don't detract from the work they're trying to do. |
Norrin Ellis
Venture Racing
221
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:23:00 -
[20] - Quote
For the children, you say? You're speaking my language, ma'am! I'm sure I've got some spare ISK lying around somewhere that I'll be happy to contribute as soon as possible. My corporation also has tons of Venture Racing Team toys, apparel, and other merchandise that we'd be thrilled to donate.
CEO, Venture Racing
Senior Banker, EVE Online Hold'Em |
Kaid Hayden
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
15
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:45:00 -
[21] - Quote
I've been authorized to pledge the full cooperation of Seven Stars Search and Rescue; we will happily provide transport, habitation modules, construction materials, supplies and personnel. Madame Saissore - we will send you a mail shortly. |
Confliktus
Cupid Stunts.
The Wolfpack Nexus
27
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:06:00 -
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Celes Tenebrae wrote:Vincent Pryce wrote:Nation is known for growing children inside metal exoskeletons to be use as labourforce and security. In a unity of human and machine, one of the aspects of Kuvakei's vision. I wonder how many infants has Tomorrowland Orphanage delivered for this purpose? While I've served on the board of Tomorrowland Orphanage as governess, none. Please, everybody, lets leave the children out of our disputes. Ms Saissore and Ms Amatucci are both taking positive measures to help children left alone as a result of conflicts that we all chose for them. I'd ask that if you aren't of a mind to offer your help, please don't detract from the work they're trying to do.
Miss Tenebrae, my problem on this particular matter is that i genuinly want to help by sending a donation and some materials, but i do not want to indirectly be helping the recruitment of infants and orfans to Sansha supporters nor do i want to be later informed that the funds didn't went to their intended destination.
Anyways this is not an accusation or the atempt of derailing good intentions but an atempt to have some sort of reassurement.
Anyways my offer is composed of 10mil ISK plus vaccines for the Children.
In case of interest please do contact me. |
DeadRow
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
129
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:18:00 -
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Good luck Steffanie. Oniseki's donation should keep you going for a number of years, to be honest, but if you require a little more feel free to contact me. |
Ruby Amatucci
Tomorrowland Orphanage
Shaktipat Revelators
49
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:29:00 -
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It's no problem, Friend Steffanie. I'm sure we can work together in some other way, sometime.
And just so it's said, Tomorrowland Orphanage does not grow children inside of exoskeletons, or turn them into laborers, or any of the other sick fantasies all the meanies out there seem to enjoy so much. |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
185
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:38:00 -
[25] - Quote
On behalf of the Order, I wish to thank all of you for coming forward to offer assistance on this project.
Some have raised an issue about transparency and accountability for where and how the funds are being used. As the project gets under way, I will provide an overview of where and how the current funds are being used and allocated. With the very large donation already made, we will be looking at establishing a trust fund and possible scholarship programs for children to make use of; the details of which will have to be worked out.
To those who have offered assistance and/or donations, I will be in contact with you to discuss the details and make arrangements.
Thank you and may Fate and Fortune smile upon you all.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Vincent Pryce
Utopian Research I.E.L.
91
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:05:00 -
[26] - Quote
Ruby Amatucci wrote:It's no problem, Friend Steffanie. I'm sure we can work together in some other way, sometime.
And just so it's said, Tomorrowland Orphanage does not grow children inside of exoskeletons, or turn them into laborers, or any of the other sick fantasies all the meanies out there seem to enjoy so much.
By "all the meanies" you mean the great and illustrious overlord of yours, Sansha Kuvakei. Hmh, and here I thought there was Unity in the Nation as your Shaktipat kin so love to sprout. I guess not then.
Vincent Pryce
Archangel of Asakai |
Vincent Pryce
Utopian Research I.E.L.
91
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:59:00 -
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Celes Tenebrae wrote:Vincent Pryce wrote:Nation is known for growing children inside metal exoskeletons to be use as labourforce and security. In a unity of human and machine, one of the aspects of Kuvakei's vision. I wonder how many infants has Tomorrowland Orphanage delivered for this purpose? While I've served on the board of Tomorrowland Orphanage as governess, none. Please, everybody, lets leave the children out of our disputes. Ms Saissore and Ms Amatucci are both taking positive measures to help children left alone as a result of conflicts that we all chose for them. I'd ask that if you aren't of a mind to offer your help, please don't detract from the work they're trying to do.
When it is the well being of those children in question should it not be raised up in a topic, no? Ms. Saissore would do well to choose her bedfellows with more care if she truly feels for her orphans.
I'm sure you'll also understand if I do not simply take the word of a Nation collaborator at face value of what happens in a Nation affiliate institution, or maybe just do not see what goes on behind close doors - or simply refuse to see.
Do not take me wrong I fully support this little initiative of hers. Capsuleers playing humanitarians is something that thoroughly amuses me, take lives on one hand and then care for the orphans you've just created with the other.Only so that in the coming decades you or others like you can repeat the same cycle over and over again.
I also find it amusing that she'd rather cater to the aggressors than take care of the real victims families.
Vincent Pryce
Archangel of Asakai |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1040
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Posted - 2013.09.12 18:00:00 -
[28] - Quote
If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
437
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:05:00 -
[29] - Quote
Silas Vitalia wrote:If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
And you just randomly found them on your travels?
Amazing the things one picks up sometimes. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1042
|
Posted - 2013.09.12 19:07:00 -
[30] - Quote
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
And you just randomly found them on your travels? Amazing the things one picks up sometimes.
Of course not, don't be silly.
I've got all sorts of human detritis collected from years of reaving in the Kingdom. Much like fishing, you keep the good ones, but some are too small and need to be tossed back so they can grow bigger and stronger.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
189
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:39:00 -
[31] - Quote
Silas Vitalia wrote:If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
The Order is of course interested in your proposition and I will of course be willing to come and retrieve these children.
I would, of course, require some details as to location, timing, and of course a rough estimate of passenger space so I do not show up in something too small to handle the transfer.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1042
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Posted - 2013.09.12 19:52:00 -
[32] - Quote
Steffanie Saissore wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
The Order is of course interested in your proposition and I will of course be willing to come and retrieve these children. I would, of course, require some details as to location, timing, and of course a rough estimate of passenger space so I do not show up in something too small to handle the transfer.
Excellent! I'll set things up privately then.
You've made a great choice!
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Ava Starfire
Gradient
Electus Matari
1233
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:15:00 -
[33] - Quote
Not sure how I missed this announcement.
Thank you, Ms. Saissore. If I can be of help, um, just ask.
If you wish me to keep my distance, due to the nature of the program, I understand.
Spirits guide
"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
101
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Posted - 2013.09.13 09:02:00 -
[34] - Quote
Silas Vitalia wrote:Steffanie Saissore wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:If I were to say, offer up an Industrial full of children... would you be interested in adding them to your orphanage?
You would have to come pick them up, of course.
The Order is of course interested in your proposition and I will of course be willing to come and retrieve these children. I would, of course, require some details as to location, timing, and of course a rough estimate of passenger space so I do not show up in something too small to handle the transfer. Excellent! I'll set things up privately then. You've made a great choice!
A fabled Admiral said it best:
"IT'S A TRAAAAAAP!"
-Eran |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
192
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:14:00 -
[35] - Quote
An apology to those who are waiting to hear back from me...I have been tied up with some issues. I will be in contact in the next day or so and I plan on having a very rough breakdown of how the funds are going to be used.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation
538
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:05:00 -
[36] - Quote
I couldn't help notice that you haven't made any allowances for the children of Federals killed by the Tribals in Colelie. Was that an over site or by design?
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1717
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:21:00 -
[37] - Quote
I would imagine those children are well taken care of by the Federation, no? |
James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation
538
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:12:00 -
[38] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I would imagine those children are well taken care of by the Federation, no?
No doubt, but their omission speaks volumes.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1717
|
Posted - 2013.09.18 03:35:00 -
[39] - Quote
James Syagrius wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I would imagine those children are well taken care of by the Federation, no? No doubt, but their omission speaks volumes.
I agree, although I thought it was a scathing indictment of the Republic that they couldn't be relied upon to properly care for the children of their own war dead.
I'm glad to see Ava stepping up to the plate and offering to do her part. I still pay into trust funds for the families of the Homeguard crewmen and officers I helped kill around New Caldari Prime. |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
592
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:27:00 -
[40] - Quote
Apparently, this attempt turned out pretty well. I guess that Lord Merdaneth could take a few lessons out of that one ? |
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
154
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:29:00 -
[41] - Quote
I approve of this project and wish it continued success.
Moitte. |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
193
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:05:00 -
[42] - Quote
James Syagrius wrote:I couldn't help notice that you haven't made any allowances for the children of Federals killed by the Tribals in Colelie. Was that an over site or by design?
I appreciate the concern that you are showing for the orphans of the Federation crews that lost their lives in Colelie and at the time of the announcement, the Order had weighed the options and it was decided that, due to the limited funds possessed it would perhaps be best suited to make the offering to aid the Republic. With the donations that have been offered and received to date, it is worth re-visiting the situation and donate funds to aid the Federation's support network.
Again, thank you for showing concern in the activities of the Order, Mr. Syagrius. Though, I am curious, if you are that concerned, why has Stillwater not stepped up to the plate? I merely ask out of my own curiosity.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
193
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:04:00 -
[43] - Quote
A Progress Update:
Again, I still have some people that I need to reach out to with regards to offers of aid/support/donations. I apologize that I have not been as quick to respond as other issues have left me with little time. That said, I will be getting in touch with people over the next couple of days.
To date, the Order has already set aside the 30,000,000 ISK it promised. This, coupled with donations already received, the Order can report that there is currently a total of 380,000,000 ISK now set aside for this project. Once locations have been selected, facilities will be constructed. Staffing for the facilities will of course be handled by the Minmatar as well as the day-to-day operations including education, counseling, and other needs. The funds will be used to help provide all the necessities along with any additional training needed by the staff.
Again, thank you to those that have already donated to this cause.
Which brings me to another point that some of you may have already heard about.
Silas Vitalia had offered a 'donation' of several orphans that she had come across. I accepted the offer and she set forth a set of conditions regarding how this would happen. Without pulling up the actual communications involved, these were the conditions:
- A Bestower-class industrial with the orphans would be placed in a location in Khanid space, the exact location would be provided at the time of delivery and that the Bestower would be pre-fitted with warp-core stabilizers to aid in the return flight from low-sec to high sec.
- I would be required to fly to the given location, abandon the one ship and board the Bestower
- I was to come alone and I was not to pull any tricks; if I did not, then Lady Vitalia promised to personally destroy the Bestower and all onboard the ship
Now, having spoken with some people, I was warned to expect a trap while others were a little more hopeful. Regardless, I felt an obligation to see this through so I agreed to the terms in writing and did indicate that the warp-core stabilizers would be required.
Two days ago, Lady Vitalia contacted me to inform me that all was in place and gave me a general location to travel to. I traveled out there in a basic frigate and upon arrival in system, I received the exact location of the Bestower and instructions to communicate with her once I was on the vessel and had confirmed the nature of the cargo. Upon arrival, I found the Bestower and on initial check, it was the only vessel at the location.
Leaving the frigate, I docked with the industrial, verified that the orphans were in fact in the cargo hold and informed Lady Vitalia that all was good; this is also about the same time that I noticed a lack of warp core stabilizers on the ship. A Proteus-class cruiser de-cloaked, had the Bestower scrammed and destroyed the frigate then turned guns on the industrial, hulling the ship in three short volleys.
To wrap up it all up, she then toyed around with my warp scrammed pod asking that I beg for mercy and how much I thought my life was worth. Apparently she grew bored with the whole thing and turned off the scrambler and told me to leave.
Unfortunately, none of the orphans survived the destruction of the vessel.
Now, I have spent the last two days trying to figure an appropriate response to this event. On the one hand, it will be said that I should have known better and that it was an elaborate trap for the amusement of a bored capsuleer and that I should not be so...aggrieved by the event. On the other hand, I gave my word and my honor and upheld my end of the arrangement only to have it manipulated and mocked for hoping that the other side would keep their word on an agreed upon contract.
I have spent much time deliberating my next course and I have been cautioned about doing anything to letting the whole event go and move on. I understand where the concern and advice is coming from and I know some will disagree with the action I am going to take, but I have not been one to always follow the conventional path.
It is said that each knight must have a dragon to slay, it would seem that I have been shown my dragon.
Lady Vitalia, you are, from your own actions, the very antithesis of what I believe and hold dear. Know that I am going to hunt you down and extract a modicum of justice for what you did to those children and to all of those you have slain or ruined for the sake of your own amusement. I am not after your holdings, your power base, or your followers, I will be coming for you and you alone.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Ayallah
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:15:00 -
[44] - Quote
Good luck. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1768
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Steffanie, if I can be informal, you are giving Lady Vitalia precisely what she always wanted when she hatched this scheme.
Whilst I understand your anger, respectfully, you must have had a strong inkling that this would happen, going in. Whilst it might be considered perfectly acceptable to risk your assets and your crew to save innocents, it is debatable that Lady Vitalia would have slaughtered the orphans out of hand without your participation. It is, in fact, entirely likely she sourced them specifically
You should have had a plan to deal with this eventuality or you should have refused to participate.
I would advise taking this as a life lesson. If you attempt to hunt her, it is more than likely that she will prevail. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1047
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:42:00 -
[46] - Quote
I intend to continue Saissore's tutelage for some time.
There will be as many lessons as is needed.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force
Cult of War
1325
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
Typical blood raider cowardice.
Ms. Saissore, these events have convinced me that you are a trust worthy recipient of my donations. Expect some ISK coming into your account shortly. I'm on deployment so I can't offer much, but it should be enough to cover some basic costs.
While I want to purge this filth from the cluster as much as you do, I would advise against pursuing her. This is exactly what she wants, for you to lose focus on your goal and focus on her. The money that would be going to aid the children will be squandered on trying to get back at her.
Whether or not you get her is irrelevant. She will win because she caused you to forget what your Order is about. Don't let her do this. You will emerge victorious by simply cursing her and moving on.
I truly feel sorry for the children, but there is nothing you can do. If you don't believe in an afterlife, they have ceased to exist and you can't change that even if you want to. If you do believe in an afterlife, they are in a better place and will be free from the torture and manipulation of despicable people like Ms. Vitalia. Either scenario is sad, but you must move on. Creating this vendetta will only mean she is victorious. You can't bring back those children, so dedicate your time to saving the other children. Then and only then would they have not died in vain.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
10
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Posted - 2013.09.24 07:04:00 -
[48] - Quote
Steffanie Saissore wrote:A Progress Update:
Again, I still have some people that I need to reach out to with regards to offers of aid/support/donations. I apologize that I have not been as quick to respond as other issues have left me with little time. That said, I will be getting in touch with people over the next couple of days.
To date, the Order has already set aside the 30,000,000 ISK it promised. This, coupled with donations already received, the Order can report that there is currently a total of 380,000,000 ISK now set aside for this project. Once locations have been selected, facilities will be constructed. Staffing for the facilities will of course be handled by the Minmatar as well as the day-to-day operations including education, counseling, and other needs. The funds will be used to help provide all the necessities along with any additional training needed by the staff.
Again, thank you to those that have already donated to this cause.
Knight Commander Saissore, I second Fredfredbug4 in that these events have likewise convinced me of your veracity. Once your centers are up and running,please let me know and I will gladly donate food, water and antibiotics and arrange for them to be delivered. In addition, if she has not already contacted you, please be advised that a young lady looking for a nanny/hall counselor type position will be in touch with you.
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
Now, having spoken with some people, I was warned to expect a trap while others were a little more hopeful. Regardless, I felt an obligation to see this through so I agreed to the terms in writing and did indicate that the warp-core stabilizers would be required.
While it is sad that sometimes direct experience is a better teacher than second hand warnings, I think you have learned anew the old lesson that a leopard does not change its spots, and a scorpion cannot change its nature.
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
Unfortunately, none of the orphans survived the destruction of the vessel.
-snip-
It is said that each knight must have a dragon to slay, it would seem that I have been shown my dragon.
Lady Vitalia, you are, from your own actions, the very antithesis of what I believe and hold dear. Know that I am going to hunt you down and extract a modicum of justice for what you did to those children and to all of those you have slain or ruined for the sake of your own amusement. I am not after your holdings, your power base, or your followers, I will be coming for you and you alone.
The murder of innocents and mistreatment of orphans is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance. However, I urge you not to settle for anything less than true vengeance. Simply killing a capsuleer who will quickly revive in her clone does nothing to ameliorate matters. Indeed, she may even not remember what happened except for the killmail that results. Justice without understanding or meaningful consequences by the one upon whom it is sought to be inflicted is empty.
Rather, as a wise Holder told me, one must persevere. What she has done to you and those whose charge you sought to take and protect, warrants nothing less than a declaration of formal vendetta on your archnemesis, and declare that you will start your revenge, expect your enemy to respond in kind, and not quit until the revenge is complete through eternal family and honor shaming, and/or death and the utter destruction of her power base, holdings, and followers. Until then, there is and can be, no justice. |
Etienne Saissore
Reclamation Technologies
25
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
Don't listen to the doubters, Steffanie. Stay true to your principles and remember that you have friends. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1774
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:20:00 -
[50] - Quote
Friends who will buy her drinks, look down her top and pat her on the shoulder whilst supporting her in The Summit or friends who will commit forces to combat one of our more notorious combat pilots and her equally notorious combat organisation in nullsec space? |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1050
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
You should have seen how many people in the Summit demanded I -not- execute her. All.... two of them.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Kasuko Merin
Ravenworks Industrial
2
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:32:00 -
[52] - Quote
'Execution' - if it can even be called that - is meaningless to our kind. We don't die. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1051
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
So I'll be seeing your pod in my local system soon, Kasuko? Make sure you have a nice set of 'Snake' implants or similar installed, show me how meaningless the process is.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Kasuko Merin
Ravenworks Industrial
2
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:45:00 -
[54] - Quote
I'm not in the habit of doing things for your gain. Apologies. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2755
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:42:00 -
[55] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Friends who will buy her drinks, look down her top and pat her on the shoulder whilst supporting her in The Summit or friends who will commit forces to combat one of our more notorious combat pilots and her equally notorious combat organisation in nullsec space?
Both?
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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
837
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Posted - 2013.09.25 06:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
Steffanie Saissore wrote:It is said that each knight must have a dragon to slay, it would seem that I have been shown my dragon.
I'd bet this is exactly what she was fishing for.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Koronakesh
Mafia Redux
144
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Posted - 2013.09.25 12:10:00 -
[57] - Quote
Well played, Silas.
SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin |
Steffanie Saissore
Stormcrows
205
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
Makkal Hanaya wrote:Steffanie Saissore wrote:It is said that each knight must have a dragon to slay, it would seem that I have been shown my dragon. I'd bet this is exactly what she was fishing for.
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised.
Steffanie Saissore,
Knight
Stormcrows
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