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Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 13:19:00 -
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I haven't logged in for a while (but still pay my monthly fee because I can and because I want to support EVE) but this caught my attention and I just have to speak out.
What the **** are you doing CCP?
What is next? Ban scamming and "consensual" PvP only?
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Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:More to the point: since when was "But this makes people mad" sufficient reason to limit player freedom?
I thought it used to be one of EVE/CCPs biggest selling points. |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:47:00 -
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Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:If CCP would simply come out and say "We will only enforce the TOS change and it's associated rules solely upon request/petition of the impersonated party, and none other, " I am sure the great majority of the intelligent and mature player base would be satisfied and the game would continue unchanged!
Can you imagine the number of petitions? nd this time it is the playbear that cites the TOS and not the GM pointing towards "A cold harsh universe" and HTFU. If TOS remains at current state I expect every victim of a scam/heist to submit a petition with chat logs attached. EVE will never be the same.
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Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:49:00 -
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Anslo wrote:OK can someone explain to me why all the mad? The ToS always had that bit about impersonation. I think they only care about Dev Actors for live events or GM/CCP xxxx whatever. Why would they randomly start banning someone named 'Teh Mitanni' for using the name to scam people?...
Yes this is probably a stupid question, but I want to see if I can get a concise, non-mad answer.
See GM response beloW:
GM Karidor wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Help me understand this then:
I, Abdiel Kavash, run a legit 3rd party business. Over the years I gain the trust of hundreds and a multibillion empire.
CASE 1: A new character, Joe McScammer, completely unaffiliated with me, decides to make some extra money. Joe McScammer convoes a customer of AbdielCorp and claims to be an alt of Abdiel Kavash. The poor mark falls for it and gives Joe McScammer ISK thinking he's sending it to Abdiel Kavash.
In this case, Joe McScammer is guilty of "[using] the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity", and if petitioned by the unsatisfied customer is prone to getting banned.
CASE 2: I decide that I want to make some extra money off my past customers, without necessarily having to provide any extra services. I create a new character, Phill McScammer, on my account. I then go talk to a past customer of AbdielCorp and I claim that Phill McScammer is an alt of Abdiel Kavash. Customer falls for it, sends me their money and never sees it again.
Since different characters are treated as separate entities, is this judged the same as case 1? Is Phill McScammer prone to getting banned for impersonating Abdiel Kavash? I.e. can I get banned for claiming that Phill McScammer is an alt of Abdiel Kavash?
I suppose you have read my example, so you can answer that yourself as it is pretty much the same thing with different names. Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Can I be banned for telling the truth?
Your character Phill McScammer impersonated Abdiel Kavash, the same way as Joe McScammer did, thus gets it from us the same way if reported. From our point of view, as well as from a victims, there is no technical difference between those two cases of a character impersonating another. |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 15:02:00 -
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Since I have been away for some time can anyone tell me if this has anything to do with Soundwave leaving CCP? |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 15:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lexmana wrote:Since I have been away for some time can anyone tell me if this has anything to do with Soundwave leaving CCP? If he caught wind of it beforehand, it certainly wouldn't have encouraged him to stay.
I am sure he did, i.e., if this is a 'new' direction in EVE and not just a stupid mistake by the GM team. |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.09.13 15:33:00 -
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Echo Echoplex wrote:CCP, aren't you concerned at all with damage control?
It usually comes in the form of a letter by Hilmar to the comunity. But not before their bottom line takes a hit (and a lot of rage). |
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