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Manssell
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:07:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:[...]
Where does Customer Support draw the line for impersonation?
As much as we'd love to be able to draw a clear line, it is quite impossible.
Well, that's it for now. I hope this rather lengthy post clears up some of the confusion that this ToS change brought about.
The problem here is you haven't even drawn a fuzzy line, you've created a mile long swath of fuzziness that players have no clear understanding of what may get ruled on and how.
With only your word that things will be fair, the real headache is going to come the first time you rule that player X from X corp actions are fine, but rule against player Y from Y corp. The community is going to scream favoritism! And as long as there is so much fuzziness in the rules, and the details of each case are kept so secrete they will rightly do so since for the players the only defining difference they will be able to see in the cases is the corps involved. Get ready for a lot of locked threads you brought on yourselves! |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:42:00 -
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Shade Millith wrote:
Also, I question that "it always has". Goons and others claiming to be Goons have been publicly making big heists of money from the foolish, and I've never heard a single thing from the GMs about this. No nothing.
I can bet that we're going to see a massive clamp down on these activities.
I'm going to say it again. This is just sad. This is just GM hand-holding to protect the foolish and gullible. Not what I signed up to EVE for.
Because I'm a bit hungover and grumpy, lets have some fun.
They are not doing this to protect the foolish or gullible. Sure the foolish or gullible are getting protected by this, but it's the big and powerful who are the real beneficiaries and probably the real reason for the changes. Just put on the tinfoil and think about it for a sec. A small change in the wording of the TOS suddenly outlaws all renter scams that are done in another entities name and have been going on for years, precisely as all the large 0.0 power blocks move to a renter arraignment for income. Hmmmmmmmm.
Now i'm taking the tinfoil off and going to have some tea and Aleeve and hope this headache goes away. |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
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Posted - 2013.09.13 16:40:00 -
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Ed Tekki wrote:Gavinvin1337 wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if this was caused by someone getting recruited to the legal team from another games company. They get tasked to use their experience of gaming TOS's to look over the EVE one and see if there is anything they can fix.
They see the fact that other games have these types of statements in their TOS's and think "Oh look there's a big gaping hole in the TOS, lets fill it." .
I 100% think that whoever made this decision does not know the game or the community very well, as shown by this threadnaught. It does indeed seem like a rookie mistake. What's worrying is there's been little in the way of comment about trying to bring forth a resolution to resolve the problem, and diffuse the situation. I appreciate that this has stemmed from an abuse of the Wiki, but rather than a massive upheaval of the rule, they could have just added a line that said "screwing with the wiki to perform a scam will get you banned."
While this is most likely the case, I still like the tin foil hat idea that this was done to remove the ability to perform renting scams in the name of another so as to protect the integrity of the new 0.0 income stream of renters. |
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