La Nariz wrote:The clarification by GM Karidor sums up quite well everything the CSM has heard in internal conversations. Given the clarification, it's now clear that the TOS change is consistent with previous policy, and confusion about that stems from people's (mis)understanding of previous enforcement. After all, it's easy to go from "recruitment scamming for GSF as a Goon is okay" to "recruitment scamming for GSF as a TEST pilot is okay" without feeling like you've made a leap of logic. This is the stated reason behind the update-- players were confused.
the problem i have with this change isn't that it suddenly causes these scams to be off limits; the problem that i have with this change is that it represents a fundamental shift in the gm department's stance on scamming. previously, anything under the sun was permitted as long as it didn't exploit broken or confusing
game mechanics to cause a desired result. now, with this change, precedent has been set that simply because scam victims were confused (or in this case, lied to, or simply misled) the scams were illegitimate and illegal.
when lofty-style war dec exploiting for ganks was fisrt publicly discussed, it was lauded as a brilliant play on mechanics. several people began imitating his behavior, which (understandably) caused pve-oriented players to cry out in a chorus of discontent. warning dialogs i was okay with - these were obvious. "are you sure you want to do this?" isn't foolproof. scams are still possible. but when ccp introduced the safety button to make highsec dwellers virtually immune to game mechanics they didn't understand (a capital crime, in my book, but appparently not ccp's) i decided i was done with highsec forever.
similarly now, ccp's has set a precedent that anyone who feels wronged by any other person lying to them has cause to complain, petition, and rail for new policy. since when did eve online become world of warcraft? the rampant scamming in this game has been held as a point of pride for ccp for most of the game's 10-year history -
why are you turning your back on it, karidor?[quote=Ali Aras]With all that said, this thread has made clear that there remains some unhappiness with the policy as written and intended by CCP. This unhappiness has been noted by the CSM, and we can and will follow up on the policy itself. However, that process is a longer one that will take place internally; rioting in this thread is unlikely to be effective. Given the way the CSM process has worked so far and the success we've had in other conversations, I look forward to future productive discussions with CCP, and hope to be able to share results of those in the future.