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banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 07:43:00 -
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Hey folks is this game set up for idiots or what ... why do i not get eye for an eye when im killed in 0.0 are they in 0.0 your favourites ... come on eve .. them pirates in 0.0 ok .. all they do is blow people up at the gate and you dont even get to kill them when they take yopur stuff to orvolle station and resell it for extortionate prices .. what the hell is going on ... why no eye for an eye in 0.0 theres four times ive been blown up and four times ive bumped into those people that blew me up in orvolle 0.7 in ships i copuld have blown up easily coz they were on their own .. so whats going on explain it to me please why there is no eye for an eye after you get blown up in 0.0
regards
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Zephirz
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Posted - 2006.01.10 07:47:00 -
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There are no laws in 0.0...
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banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:05:00 -
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and no eye for an eye i see ..... !
then why is it i am told to leave 0.0 space if their are no laws ?
regards http://www.artzgalaxies.com/ |

melonboy
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:11:00 -
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Come on youve been rumbled ... your cowards ... ! You have designed the game as you live your lives ... you only play when you know you can win .. come on ... no eye for an eye in 0.0 why not .. ?
The game is about progressing to be able to mine in 0.0 isnt it .. ? Not to progress to have to defend yourself from cowards .. !
No rules but its not illegal to mine in 0.0 ..... so why is it that they make you leave 0.0 and blow you up or threaten to if you dont .. im not asking 'permission' to mine and rat in 0.0 from anyone ... ! And if they are paranopid about what a single battleship is doing in 0.0 in what they term as their space ... then it goes to show that in all probability they are WANTING to blow you up just because you are on your own .. Since when has eve been qualified to tell the world and all that play .. what is the 'correct form of human behaviour ' ie team playing ....
Dont try to tell me what is good and bad behaviour .. stick to making games and not tryiong to turn people into what it is that you hate about yourselves .. you know .
I VOTE FOR AN EYE FOR AN EYE THROUGHOUT EVE .... if they are big enough to kill they are big enough to DIE ... !
regards
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CiNi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:14:00 -
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Thats the point of 0.0 - PvP without having to worry about CONSEQUENCE - Its what its for!
O_O
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banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:24:00 -
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it isnt pvp is it its gang versus single player .... !
look at my post on the next page .... i was threatenned in norad space 0.0 ... by a prphecy whilst i was in my typhoon ... ok .. i left norad space and listenned to the pilots demand .. not that i have to but i did leave as i knew that there would be ten other players any second warping in to blow me up ... they chased me after i left and followed their demand and STILL blew me up in syndicate space .. !
yet there is no eye for an eye ... that isnt fair .. because it means that i cant retaliate after being forced to leave a system whislt taking part in normal game play ratting ALONE i was ... !
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2006.01.10 08:28:00 -
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I dont get it.You post with your main than you reply to your own post with an obvious alt without declaring its your alt.
I dont mind geting kill rights in 0.0, but in 0.0 you dont need kill rights to kill and if you want to kill someone in empire, declare war.
Uh, I suppose the kitty is being put out of the computer room today.
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Handon Guild
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:00:00 -
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Hey Banannagirl 
You know, this post is quite odd. You KNOW that being in 0.0 is an invitation for people like me to come and inspect, maybe even take the loot from your ship.
If you want to be able to fly in 0.0 without being hunted by everybody, go join one of the big alliances. Then you will be able to fly around in deep 0.0 space, mining and doing whatever. But this eye for an eye thing is just too unfair. I mean, things have been made difficult enough for pirates already - why make it any harder on us?
btw..all must die  ------------------------------------------------
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:12:00 -
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Most of the 0.0 space have been claimed by now. Eve has a complex political structure, where alliances claim and defend the space they call home. We all roleplay in eve to some extent. So if somebody blows you up in 0.0, there is no mechanism that will allow you revenge. Anything is possible in 0.0
You can fit a small ship, say a rupture with 220mm vulcans, and go roam in their space :) You can easily gank a npc hunter or two, and revenge your loss on the alliance that did you wrong. In worst case you loose a cheap t1 cruiser. ----------------------
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DAViiD
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Posted - 2006.01.10 09:46:00 -
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Jezeee, don't cry if u get killed in 0.0, that's how stuff works there u know......
D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio! |

banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:10:00 -
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Look i know 0.0 is 'dangerous' you know .. im just wondering why eye for an eye doesnt exist .. to me it seems that those already established corps and their mates in 0.0 are almost making it exclusively for themselves as we cant blow them up because you know we get at them after being blown up they all seem to gel together so you end up fighting twnty corps to get one pilot thats been silly ... !
There is a code to pirating if you didnt know .. one two or three ships .. your nomadic .... you have no friends everyone is your enemy - you blow people up for isk .. you know pirating shouldnt mean fifty corps all agreeing with the decisions of the MAIN corp ... you know.
now if we all start to retake systems in 0.0 near to the gate to empire we can slowly start to infiltrate 0.0 and open the game up a bit .. ! If you know you can mine and rat in 0.0 and reduce your sec without getting eye for an eye .. that encourages those corps to tighten their belts knowing that they can get away with it .. !
it means that they would have to think before they shoot single pilots in 0.0 - to me 0.0 is nothing more than a place to reduce my sec and make some fast isk ... ! I know that its risky but it should be risky for everyone .. you know ... which means the best pilots succeed as opposed to the corps that have the most people or alliances.
Every corp that is in an alliance is basically the same corp as the biggest corp in the alliance. that means they have to abide by the biggest corps rules... !
So whats the point in joinning an alliance - when the game is about competition not sycophants !
BRING IN EYE FOR AN EYE IN 0.0 .... thats my campaign here all those in favour please add a post. !
regards BG
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Sku1ly
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:32:00 -
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PODs don't have eyes.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:35:00 -
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Isn't banannagirl a flame alt anyway?
Originally by: Avon I actually enjoy crafting in EQ2.
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Tony C'dale
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:37:00 -
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The eye for an eye thing exists to allow players in empire to retaliate without getting concorded or sentry gunned out of space. Thats the whole and entire purpose of it. If you didn't notice on your trips to 0.0 there are no sentry guns and no concord. So there is no need for any flagging system, as the rules of empire do not and should not apply in 0.0 No one is stopping you from killing or trying to kill whoever or whatever you want.
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Trevize dk
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Posted - 2006.01.10 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: banannagirl im just wondering why eye for an eye doesnt exist
Ok. Let me try to explain it then. Eye for an eye is kinda a semi roleplay thing. You must understand that the entire empire is partially controlled by the varios races with one commen police (Concord) if you like. All these factions uphold the law and will try to enforce it. None of the empires have police in 0.0 - hence no kill right. To put it simple - the police dont know anything of the things happening in 0.0.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: ZelRox Most of the 0.0 space have been claimed by now. Eve has a complex political structure, where alliances claim and defend the space they call home..
aye, true but doesnt mean we all have to agree with that... I will never be a fan of closing an entrance to space killing all neutrals that enter.
Another thing i dont appreciate is having NORAD ships in orvolle locking me to warn me that PF is their space. i think u know what im talking bout bannagirl.
as for eye for an eye, 0.0 space is pretty lawless, but it doesnt mean ur actions wont come back to bite u on the a$$.
ppl locking me in empire makes me mad.
d solo.
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Hughy
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Posted - 2006.01.10 11:56:00 -
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To Put it simply, Eye for and Eye doesn`t exist in 0.0 space because its lawless,
and if i kill you in Lawless space why should you get to kill me in empire?
you can kill me in lawless space without Eye for an eye.
so that in itself is an eye for an eye.
if i kill you in lawless space and you get to kill me in patrolled space that isn`t exactly an eye for an eye is it?
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Shaemell Buttleson
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Posted - 2006.01.10 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Trevize dk
Originally by: banannagirl im just wondering why eye for an eye doesnt exist
Ok. Let me try to explain it then. Eye for an eye is kinda a semi roleplay thing. You must understand that the entire empire is partially controlled by the varios races with one commen police (Concord) if you like. All these factions uphold the law and will try to enforce it. None of the empires have police in 0.0 - hence no kill right. To put it simple - the police dont know anything of the things happening in 0.0.
Hi Trevize hows things. Glad to see your still around.
Thats exactly the point there are no police in 0.0 therfore no record of what you do there. Thats why you also don't have to worry about smuggling illegal goods either. And it's better than eye for an eye as well in that you don'y just have 1 month to get revenge if you see that pilot. You get to kill them over and over again for therest of your life in EVE if you see them there.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.01.10 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: banannagirl Hey folks is this game set up for idiots or what ...
No, but the forums seem to be infested with them. 
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread |

Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:13:00 -
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LOL
If they did introduce it all the 0.0 carebears would never even dare to enter empire again just like happened when war declaring alliances was 2mill a week
"May you die by the hand of a low life in real life for ruining the gaming experiance of others.Your scum and will never be anything better than the coward you are." |

banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:17:00 -
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im talking when they emrge from 0.0 ... you follow me .. a soldier can carry gun in and during war .. but they cant walk down the street with their gu n you know .. what im saying is .. is that eye for an eye .. wherever you are should exist which means although in 0.0 it doesnt matter .. it means that if they emrge from 0.0 we can nail their as**s .. ! You follow me ? We can therfore have a fair chance of getting our gear back you know as they emerge to sell it ... !
Its their choice -- they live by the sword they die by the sword it means we can gank in empire .. how good would that be .. ! we can send in spies and wait for them to emerge.
BG
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:30:00 -
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Why were you there in the first place if you didnt know it was like that.
0.0 = 0utlaw space :p
We patrol what we can, but there is no law, no witness and usually no quarter given.
If you really want to fight the guy that killed you, why dont you ask him for a 1v1?
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Rodge
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:33:00 -
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Strangely enough, when I kill people in 0.0 and go to pickup their loot I get the "You are about to steal from xxx" warning.
Seems like taking the loot afterwards is more of a crime than blowing up their ship and popping the pod 
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Suhadi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: whinegirl Hey folks is this game blah blah whine whine whine pout sulk .. so whats going on explain it to me please why there is no eye for an eye after you get blown up in 0.0
regards
Don't go to 0.0 if you can't defend yourself.
Originally by: lamegirl Its their choice -- they live by the sword they die by the sword it means we can gank in empire .. how good would that be .. ! we can send in spies and wait for them to emerge.
There is absolutely no logic to that whatsoever. If you want an eye for an eye go back to 0.0 and kick his arse. You don't get your revenge handed to you on a plate just because you're too weak to go and get it yourself.  -------------------------------------------------- - Suhadi |

Dhejay Centrix
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:54:00 -
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Bananagirl.... please stop moaning.
I have been to 0.0 and been killed several times but I've never considered complaining about it cos it's lawless space. As has been said before the eye for an eye is sanctioned by the various empires and so therefore doesn't apply in lawless space. In roleplay terms the empires simply have no ability to track who killed you outside of their sovereign space. In RL terms, 0.0 is free for all and don't go unless you are prepared to fight or die, that's the game if you don't like it play something else like the sims.
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Duraeli
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:02:00 -
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Why the hell did CCP have to go advertising to the MMO community as a whole? Now we get people like this floating around the forums...
Eve has always been about the political structure in 0.0 space, at least from the second month after launch on. The thing that makes this game so different from others (read EQ) is that CCP takes no responsibility for what happens in uncontrolled space. What other game do you know where people have created thousand person alliances (impromptu before the alliance structure came into the game) to secure vast stretches of space and guard it from people like...pirates, and you.
Why should there be an eye for an eye there? It's lawless...you want to take out the guy who shot at you? Fly out there and take him out...there's your eye for an eye. You control it. Lets not go ruining the thing that makes Eve Eve by dumbing down 0.0. ---------------------------------------------- Persona non grata |

MrMorph
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:54:00 -
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make all space 1.0 4tw !!!!!!one11eleven
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banannagirl
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Posted - 2006.01.10 15:56:00 -
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your missing my point ....
if people blow you up in 0.0 ok i accept it .... but when your in a bs and trying to make lots of isk which is the risk of 0.0 quickly and you get blown up by ten people - you know which is just complicitly unfair ...and not pvp for crying out loud - there should be some punishment if they enter lawful space.
thats the sacrifice that pilots take when they move to 0.0 and formulate a corp even - its not skilled pilots that are doing it its newbies and there is nothing that hursts more than being blown up by ships that you can wipe out of space if they were on their own.
So heres the answer to the problem .. they stay in 0.0 all is ok ... no worries thats why they are there - but they come back into LAWFUL space they have to pay just like everyone else .. and you know what they may begin just a bit to understand that pirating has and etiquette about it .. you either know what it is or you dont... !
If you dont - dont try to be a pirate ... and hide behind your corp aces.. !
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF .. having to actually work to achieve your ships and mods .. ive been p-laying this gme alone since day one ... SINCE DAY ONE --- that means a bs' to me i dont get given it .. i have to earn it ... you know ... i have to hunt solitary miners mine myself .. rat all these kind of things .. 0.4 game play makes 0.0 look like that what it is childs play ... !
as soon as my sec is back to normal ie -1.5 or so .. im going to return to the REAL eve game ... pffft .... to 0.0
regards BG
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Suhadi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: banannagirl your missing my point ....
if people blow you up in 0.0 ok i accept it .... but when your in a bs and trying to make lots of isk which is the risk of 0.0 quickly and you get blown up by ten people - you know which is just complicitly unfair ...and not pvp for crying out loud - there should be some punishment if they enter lawful space.
thats the sacrifice that pilots take when they move to 0.0 and formulate a corp even - its not skilled pilots that are doing it its newbies and there is nothing that hursts more than being blown up by ships that you can wipe out of space if they were on their own.
So heres the answer to the problem .. they stay in 0.0 all is ok ... no worries thats why they are there - but they come back into LAWFUL space they have to pay just like everyone else .. and you know what they may begin just a bit to understand that pirating has and etiquette about it .. you either know what it is or you dont... !
If you dont - dont try to be a pirate ... and hide behind your corp aces.. !
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF .. having to actually work to achieve your ships and mods .. ive been p-laying this gme alone since day one ... SINCE DAY ONE --- that means a bs' to me i dont get given it .. i have to earn it ... you know ... i have to hunt solitary miners mine myself .. rat all these kind of things .. 0.4 game play makes 0.0 look like that what it is childs play ... !
as soon as my sec is back to normal ie -1.5 or so .. im going to return to the REAL eve game ... pffft .... to 0.0
regards BG
Why are you now talking about pirates? Getting podded in 0.0 has absolutely nothing to do with piracy. The term 'piracy' suggests an unlawful action, which DOESN'T EXIST in 0.0 as there is no law.
So people who kill you in 0.0 suffer none of the ill effects that pirates get in lowsec space, because, get this... they're not pirates.
At least, not for killing in 0.0 anyway.   -------------------------------------------------- - Suhadi |

minnmirman
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: banannagirl you know which is just complicitly unfair ...going to return to the REAL eve game ... pffft ...
Its not supposed to be fair, that's the point...
-Minn
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