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Wolverine PL
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Wolverine PL on 10/01/2006 14:53:03
I was waiting for today patch and ... YOU DIDNT FIX THOSE DRONES!!!
PPL send bugs, write what is wrong with them, but looks like you dont want to fix them.
I spend lots of time skilling them, and Now I regret.
Heavy have crappy tracking, cant hit not moving frigate. Not to mention that they like to aproch target with orbiting speed.
I do a lot of missions, now I have problem with frigs even biger then before that crapy RMR patch.
Im doing missions, I though Vindicator would be nice, but you know what? I have to low range or to crappy tracking to kill all of them. Why didnt I train for raven, like all of you, someone said that game is ballanced. No its not, and will never be.
Every Patch drones are getting more and more bugged.
All changes will make interceptors king of PVP. Killing machine. When I see that 1 interceptor can kill big Battleship well, thats not even funny, its stupid.
So CCP THANK YOU FOR THAT SWEET RMR.
What next will you do to make that game worse?
What you did so far:
1. Uber nerf drones in numbers(Gallente (drone rase) BS cant take more than 5 heavy (where medium??))
2. Even bigger nerf drones (size, tracking)
3. Bugged drones (every patch gets bigger)
4. R&D sucks (cant cancel BPO reaserch)
5. Plenty more....
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Cisplatin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 15:52:00 -
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You catch more flies with honey than salt....
stop whining...
Cisplatin
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Commander Rayne
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:05:00 -
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dude ive heard your mouth on 20 different topics you shut up for once in your life and let people express how they fell its not of your damn consern why there whining or what about your just an idoit for telling them to stop like there really gonna listen to you. 
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Cisplatin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:06:00 -
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oooh scary face...
another whiney 'tard....
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Commander Rayne
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:08:00 -
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go play with your kids
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:09:00 -
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Dont let the door hit you on your way out.
BYE!
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Commander Rayne
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:10:00 -
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aghhhh hey just mad himself cause he doest have a life proable aint even have any kids for that matter.(disturbed 17 year old)
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Adoro
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:12:00 -
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Now be nice
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Commander Rayne
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:14:00 -
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srry how i put my alts piccy up here i hate commander rayne he's lamo newbbie guy
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Wolverine PL
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:33:00 -
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Do you use Drones? I dont thinks so. so you go play with kids.
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Wolverine PL
Do you use Drones? I dont thinks so. so you go play with kids.
Post before the lock.
Lanfear's Bane.
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wolverine PL
Do you use Drones?
Adapt or leave.
Please leave.
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Radix Salvilines
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:12:00 -
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Wolverine is quite right...
Since Cold War deployment there was nothing developers did about drone buggs :/ More - buggs becamed even more annoying.
I use small drones. Most annoying thing is when scooping to drone bay. Issuing "return and orbit" command makes drones not returning and orbitting but flying after a ship at the distance not allowing me to scoop them into bay. Everyone knows how big problem is that when doing hard missions. Specially when flying a small ship relying on its speed to avoid hitts - when u have to turn back to get drones :/
If next patches will make eve even more unplayable plz stop making them for a while and try resolving existing problems. Before Cold War it was very nice to play - everything worked smoothly (mostly :D). I know there is a load of new players and hardware has its limitations and... halo - fix it first then go on with plot and new ships :/
Plz plz i love eve but u made this game a bit unplayable.
And im not whinning (for those @$%@&% dumb@#$% that say that in every topic and think theyre better or somtin) - i waited long - i thought CCP will resolve it. But this resolving takes so much time (and even more buggs come in) that sometimes i loose hope :( Im sorry to say that :(
Radix
Ps what we can say Wolverine... "***** mac!!"
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Yorrick Stix
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:16:00 -
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I must say that the good thing about nerfing the drones is that now when you can have half of what you were used to, there is less chance for them to get stuck in pairs and wonder off at 50m/s when you need them the most. That's a precious one.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:39:00 -
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OP : adapt
Drones are still great and it is light years better than it was at every itteration they have had since release.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Intak Atak on 10/01/2006 22:40:23
Originally by: Radix Salvilines
Most annoying thing is when scooping to drone bay. Issuing "return and orbit" command makes drones not returning and orbitting but flying after a ship at the distance not allowing me to scoop them into bay. Everyone knows how big problem is that when doing hard missions. Specially when flying a small ship relying on its speed to avoid hitts - when u have to turn back to get drones :/
That range is 1800meters.
GOD FORBID YOU WERE TO STOP YOUR SHIP AND WAIT FOR THE DRONES TO GET WITHIN SCOOPING RANGE, OR EVEN WORSE TURN YOUR SHIP AROUND AND APPROACH THE DRONES!!
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Tal'Mar
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:53:00 -
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I cannot believe there is so many people responding to this post saying how we should not complain about the drones ..obviously yuo are the few who did not spend many months working drone skills just to have the drones become useless..Although CCP will love people like you because you are the ones that take these nerfs and just say oh well and continue to pay you 15 bucks a month. I loved this game and still love the concept but when they go and change things you have worked very hard for it takes all the fun out. Todays wonderful patch has now caused more lag than i ever had (yay) ..takes 5 minutes to get in and out of stations and 2 or 3 minutes to jump at gates ..it just keeps gettiong better and better ..but you go ahead and pay your 15 bucks, i will just have to find some thing else unfortunately ..i really liked the game. The worst part is that CCP will not acknowledge any of our complaints..at least let us know you heard us.
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Yorrick Stix
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:48:00 -
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Don't be angry at them, it's called Stockholm Syndrome and they can't be held responsible for their actions. 
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Guillight BLue
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Posted - 2006.01.11 09:53:00 -
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I cant believe most reactions here either?? I thought we were a great community here and everyone is nice to eachother?? (according to the article interview in E-ON 2 ;))
Drones are definetly bugged! I myself had 3 times already this week that my own medium drones (hamerheads) sudddenly start attacking me when they destroyed the target?? Somehow they don't come out of combat mode and return to orbit and start attacking you?? Only way to solve this problem is to scoop them into drone bay and then release them back in space again to continue!!
greetings
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Guillight BLue
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super4lt
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Guillight BLue
Drones are definetly bugged! I myself had 3 times already this week that my own medium drones (hamerheads) sudddenly start attacking me when they destroyed the target??
Because they dont like you...no one does 
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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GoDiZh
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:22:00 -
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/Signed...
CCP pleace answer us, and fix it
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Damir36
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:28:00 -
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After Patch Sentry Drones...
Pls help my memory, but did they reduce the Optimal Range Attributes for Sentry Drones with this Patch? Was the one thing i realy enjoyed in RMR.
GrnŻe
Damir
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Twiekdon
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:38:00 -
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Drones are definitely bugged.
Please fix
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tal'Mar
I cannot believe there is so many people responding to this post saying how we should not complain about the drones ..obviously yuo are the few who did not spend many months working drone skills just to have the drones become useless..Although CCP will love people like you because you are the ones that take these nerfs and just say oh well and continue to pay you 15 bucks a month. I loved this game and still love the concept but when they go and change things you have worked very hard for it takes all the fun out. Todays wonderful patch has now caused more lag than i ever had (yay) ..takes 5 minutes to get in and out of stations and 2 or 3 minutes to jump at gates ..it just keeps gettiong better and better ..but you go ahead and pay your 15 bucks, i will just have to find some thing else unfortunately ..i really liked the game. The worst part is that CCP will not acknowledge any of our complaints..at least let us know you heard us.
The fact... drones are better than they have ever been.
The fact... many buggs are in the game pre-rmr and post-rmr.
The fact... I have trained up 5 toons with excellent drone skill.
The fact... drones are a system that not as important as turret bug fixes ( like projectile alpha and DoT )
The fact... drones might not be the best system to use in complexes or deadspace missions.
The fact... drones are uber in 0.0.
The fact... drones only have a few counter measures in the game that really work.
The fact... one turret disrupter can negate 3 primary weapon systems.
The fact... 2 new drone ships were put into the game and extra large drones.
The fact... you will not be missed except by your close friends in game.
The fact... if a buggy drone system, which has been sketchy from 2003, makes you quit then good luck finding a game that ahere's to your high standard. I have played them all and there is not ONE MMO on the market without huge gaping bugs in them. I suggest a FPS like Battlefield 2.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Tal'Mar
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Posted - 2006.01.11 19:55:00 -
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I played this game pre rmr and while yes it had its bugs it now seems to have tripled since rmr and considering that drones are the main defense of the Gallante race and since i cant use drones because of bugs then i guess i cant play unless i learn a new race ..and i dont expect you to miss me or anyone but there are more stable games out there ..yes they have bugs too but my biggest complaint is acknoledgement at least that CCP here us ..most people dont like being ignored but obviously you are a product of customer no- service as well and you will not be missed either
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darkromz99
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Posted - 2006.01.11 19:58:00 -
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totally agree with you there... for me its the constant lack of letting us know.... this tells me that the problems are a lot bigger than what they seem,
Why else would a company be so ignorant.
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Jana McMops
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Posted - 2006.01.11 20:54:00 -
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I find it highly annoying that drones won't auto-attack hostile rats as they shoot at me.
Maybe it's been mentioned before, but still: teh annoying.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.12 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tal'Mar
I played this game pre rmr and while yes it had its bugs it now seems to have tripled since rmr and considering that drones are the main defense of the Gallante race and since i cant use drones because of bugs then i guess i cant play unless i learn a new race ..and i dont expect you to miss me or anyone but there are more stable games out there ..yes they have bugs too but my biggest complaint is acknoledgement at least that CCP here us ..most people dont like being ignored but obviously you are a product of customer no- service as well and you will not be missed either
Drones are not Gallente's offense, hybrids are. Drones are not Gallente's defense, armor tanking is. Name me one compnay that has a more stable game with less bugs and I will eat this post. Since I have long standing accounts with SoE, Cryptic, Blizzard and 2+ years running with CCP I can tell you CCP is by far the most improved, improving, and communicative set of developers out on the market. RMR has been out less than a month. City of Villians, which is content patch 6 for City of Heroes, has been out over 2. We will have three patches under our belt before CoV/CoH will have 1 to address outstanding bugs. Be greatful or quietly leave... the developers can't reply to every post that begins with a disgruntled rant.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Tal'Mar
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Posted - 2006.01.12 02:51:00 -
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I understand you'r defense to the game after all it is a really good game till rmr, i liked it alot but i wont pay 15 bucks to fly around and not be able to play,its just my opinion and obviosly others seem to notice the drastic effects of the drone changes. this is my last post and as far as response to the drone problem ..umm i dont think they have ever responded since prepatch to the problems or to the new problems since patch and not to mention they didnt even give out proper patch notes till we all complained during this last patch.i am glad you still love the game and i would too and maybee later if they fix what i trained for ill be back other than that i will go back to my other game full time.Good luck and Enjoy!
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Yorrick Stix
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Posted - 2006.01.12 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Be greatful or quietly leave...
If it is so obvious that the drones are not your first choice of weapons how can you have the nerve to keep on going with that kind of speech? People pay money and ask questions, it is a right. And while most of them are whinies that doesn't give you the right to that complete lack of dignity. Just let them enjoy their misery and avoid these threads if you're annoyed by them.
And pretty please, stop puting words like "grateful" and "leave" in the same sentence. Beacause a) only dogs are grateful with whatever you may throw at them, and that kind of attitude may recomend yourself in some eyes. And b) in the offchance you actually convince people to leave, if CCP management is trully top notch and the clients drop tomorrow to, let's say, 10000, the day after tomorrow they would cash in, close your beloved EVE and move to the next thing. Forget about your romantic past in eve, when there was a handfull of players and 0.0 was deserted. Once something becomes profitable there is no turning back the the poetry. It's uphill or bust. Advertising people to leave is just stupid.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.12 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/01/2006 17:05:30
Originally by: Yorrick Stix
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Be greatful or quietly leave...
If it is so obvious that the drones are not your first choice of weapons how can you have the nerve to keep on going with that kind of speech? People pay money and ask questions, it is a right. And while most of them are whinies that doesn't give you the right to that complete lack of dignity. Just let them enjoy their misery and avoid these threads if you're annoyed by them.
Actually you have no idea what my primary choice of weapons are. You don't know my character(s) nor my account(s). This is not a place for rants or personal attacks. It is a place for troubleshooting and resolve. If someone wants to speak out against drones then please by all means do so in a proper and productive manor. Come here to cry about weapon mechanics is a place for the Ships and Modules forum and any harsh talk about these things could be considered trolling and flaming. And when someone proclaims not having the willingness to pay for such things, the leave quietly.
Thank you,
KS
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.01.12 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jana McMops
I find it highly annoying that drones won't auto-attack hostile rats as they shoot at me.
Maybe it's been mentioned before, but still: teh annoying.
Mine do! They even run off to attack the rats before the rats even started targetting me.
The only gripe I have is as mentioned previously, they don't come back and wander aimlessly some distance away so you have to go back to them to scoop. Pretty annoying since I use them for defence in my mining barge since I have no other defence and a barge is so slow when it comes to having to fly off to collect drones that have lost their AI.
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Sal Alo
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Posted - 2006.01.13 23:12:00 -
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Hi guys,
I heard a lot of strange things here, I want to say only that I mostly do missions with a tempest and without the drones doing those missions is really BORING due small ships flying around of me. However we have to wait for eve's team to fix the issues and I want to remember that:
1. It can't exist a software without bugs
2. Eve's team is one of the best team around online games
3. From point 1.... ok it is true but if my word processor has a bug while saving a document.. it is a little different by a bug when u set the style of a table!
So please fix drones ASAP :) thx to all
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Yorrick Stix
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
This is not a place for rants or personal attacks.
Indeed, and that throws your first attempt at participating in this thread, the one with "adapt", in a different light isn't it?
Let me tell you how this affects me, if you can't be bothered to say how this (doesn't) affects you.
Ok, i admit i loved my drones. I had 6 of them in raven so they were pretty far from overwhelming. But they did magic against frigates and cruisers. It was a pleasure to dismiss a swarm of webfiers, and indeed a nice reward for the lvl5 training. The devs felt they were too powerfull and they were partially right. Instead of addressin the problem at it's source (yes, i had encounters with ishtars before and it got messy really quick) they did a global nerf introdeced by RMR. After that i was left with 3 and i thought - ok it's not that bad, just e little bit more training, a little more power, i will survive. And then the latest "patch" REALLY nerfed the wasps, showing me the horror that was originally intended. I still can kill a bs with them, but when it comes to frigates they can't shoot for love or money.
And here i am in a battleship that RMR just made UBER, i tank 6 npc battleships of your choice and kill them way before my drones manage to kill 6 webfiers, let's say. Yes, they are powerfull, but i didn't need them to kill battleships, but cruisers and most importantly frigates and they are an inch away to failing that.
And then there is the way the nerf was done - instead of changing dronespace or dronesize they messed with the chars abilities, making a mess out of it - the way you train now for drones is unprecedented in Eve logic. Clearly an afterthought.
So if you take into account all that, at least make them go straight and with constant speed for crissakes. And let's move on.
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2006.01.17 07:42:00 -
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The changes to drones were done to reduce objects in space and thus counter lag. While I liked having a small swarm of friends around me, I think besides the bugs that will get fixed sooner or later drones have actually improved.
However, shortly after RMR I was cussing at CCP too because instead of the 7 heavy drones that killed everything that moved I could only carry 2 in my Thorax, and they were unable to hit the broad side of a barn.
Until I discarded them and put in 5 medium drones. These work like a charm and utterly pwn any NPC that comes in their range.
Again, you have to pick the right tool for the task. Heavy drones are there to fight heavy and slow targets. Use mediums and lights for the targets that rely on speed and agility to survive, and you'll have much better results.
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LordVisible
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Posted - 2006.01.17 09:38:00 -
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LOL..
What does it matter if u have medium ones, if they attack u?! Yeah, they do less damage, but that isnt the point of this topic..
The problem is, that drones AI is messed up, we dont have any control of drones (at least we could get a priority target list for drones) and they have big bug considering that u cant order them to return to drone bay, coz they get stucked at 3m/s at 1867m from ship, that means u cant scoop them and u must turn arround if u wanna quick run from the crime sceene. U played lvl3 mission in brutix? Well, i did, i lost brutix, u know why? Coz i waited 2 second too long for my drones to scoop when i saw that 2 BS's gonna eat me alive..i had to turn around (Brutix is slow..) and that takes about 5 seconds..
No problem..I'll know next time..but what when u use drones, that cost much more? U just cant leave them there, or is no point in mission reward, coz u must buy yourself new ones..
I dont mind that they reduced number of active drones..they made them stronger..i blame them for stupid AI of drones..
And while we are on that topic about stuff in space..why dont they reduce cans in belts? At least they must pop in 48hours or lets say in 5 days..i warped to a belt in 0.1 sys and there was like 100 of cans, just lying around..that I dont mention all the red squares which almost gave me heart attack coz of thinking that so many rats were in the belt..
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