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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Penny Parker
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
All this north, south unity is the biggest crap ever. People dont wanna jump 100 jumps to fight some1..
Again all this Unity is crap and its the worst thing that can happend to pvp..
Start shooting eachother and dont just sign naps becuase you live close to eachother.. Nap people that lives far away and kill you neighbours its much more fun
That's amusing, coming from the corp that formed NBSI who napped F-E/PA/G/IRON.
So explain to us why we left again?
Death and Glory in H-PA
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 10/01/2006 18:24:28
Originally by: BOOFER
Edited by: BOOFER on 10/01/2006 17:18:28
Okay the situation seems to be three wars in the South. The South East vs Reds, The South West vs FIX and finally BOB and ASCN vs Iron and G. Not precise I know but its the gist im after here.
Now lets hypothesise. Lets say ASCN space is taken by G and Iron (Sorry to Cyvok et al this is meerly an eg. I know full well what you are capable of.) and lets say G and IRON move to the nearest target ...... *looks at map* Tribal... Would the rest of the South be friendly enough to help them out? (Again no offense meant to Abs et al) Thats the kind of friendship there used to be for quite sometime. (After the SCA thing and the SA-SE thing it got a bit turned around) Because theoretically again the North who are attacking the South could take a target at a time and slowly make their way across... I ask you is this concieveable?
Also please take into account that in the last 5 months the South has gone from 5-6 alliances to 10 - 11. Smaller spaces are easier to defend but not as larger player pool to draw from. also the more alliances the more statistical likelyhood of friction.
Now what if there are more splits.
This is the point im trying to get across if you follow me.... Not sure I do myself after reading this again 
Err, look up recent events. That should tell enough.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:34:00 -
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Ohnoes, not the South vs. North bullcrap again 
It makes the game so ultra boring now, a stalemate on all fronts. Neither side is totally united, nor does one pwn the other totally.
Basically its 100+ jumps ftl. I really dont know why this south/north-mentality still exists, its soooo lastyear...
-G- Pink Power
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:43:00 -
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a little clarification for this FIX vs the world crap...Asuya, Exile, Arcane Industries and a couple other friends have been roaming the Catch pipe now since August..FIX has a +2.5 standing with us since they are old friends, but we have been shooting anyone and everyone that isn't blue to us since then, to say we are doing this only to help FIX is a huge misconception, this is what we have been and will continue doing with our time, leave us out of your discussion about allies, cause that is something we def. aren't...were just here to have fun and fight...and we DO NOT FLY IN GANG WITH FIX..ffs...
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:55:00 -
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Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
actually after one or two incidents that happened due to fix maintaining different standings, it was agreed that we shouldn't (and we don't) fly mixed gangs with non-fix anymore.
"the trio" have been shooting up SA for quite a few months before fix set you to 0.0. Just because you've now decided to engage us fully and asuya are still shooting you doesn't mean they are helping us to defend our space, not directly at any rate.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
So let me get this straight:
Any corporation that NPC's in the regions that stain Alliance claim and / or control that shoot at BoB should be considered representatives of the Stain Alliance and we should react to that accordingly?
No?
Didn't think so.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tadis on 10/01/2006 19:25:09
Originally by: Dianabolic
So let me get this straight:
Any corporation that NPC's in the regions that stain Alliance claim and / or control that shoot at BoB should be considered representatives of the Stain Alliance and we should react to that accordingly?
No?
Didn't think so.
The word for that post would be "Owned" :)
Orc A, act the diplomat. It is your position afterall. Not "flamer of those we cant let our F1, F2, F3 speak for ourselves against"
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:33:00 -
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personaly i hate this north vs south stuff. why travel 50 jumps to shoot some one im only shooting because their a northen alliance..when i can travel 10 jumps to shoot people i dont like? it makes no sence
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: whisk on 10/01/2006 19:36:57
double post
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Mystic Mansions
Originally by: Ramuh
Originally by: The Enslaver
The South is more stable now than it has been since well, ever.
The only 'unstable' factor is RA, who all the southern entities are fighting atm.
FIX - SA/Huzzah?
Correction. It's FIX vs SA/Huzzah/Kaos/Nova/IMP and a few others SA enlisted help from.
Actually ASUYA, Exile and so on are fighting right alongside FIX vs SA + Huzzah + Kaos. But to be honest it's everyone in Providence, Catch and Querlilous fighting lag, hope this will change with the upcoming fixes. But having a nice alliance of alliances working together is good fun and bodes well for the future.
If thats why you think Exile are killing you guys right now, you're mistaken. Yes we are friendly with FIX, but never have FIX asked us to to go and kill you guys. We are simply killing you guys becuase we are having fun doing it.
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:21:00 -
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Eheh, keep on topic guys, /slap  .
I agree, North vs South has a nice ring to it, but 100j to fight is just too far - it's just a shame that the fights that have been going on in the South (and presumably North too?) are Everyone VS Lag where few actually enjoy it 
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: aeti
I think its more like "wait till the servers are fixed" because otherwise both sides just die a pointless laggy death
what he said.
first of all, who's bright idea was it to come up with the whole "North vs. South" agenda anyway? It really makes no sense in having a full out war of a lower and upper universe war if normal alliance vs. alliance lags the hell out of everything.... and people are talking region's vs. region's? Only reason its not happening is because this game isn't designed for that kind of battlefront yet. So what do some alliance's do? rage their war elsewhere. Besides, there is so much bad blood in the south it would almost be impossible to unify.... but my main question is, why would we want to unify it? I never understood it from the start, and I doubt I ever will.
lag = u lose.
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Baraccas
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:44:00 -
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north vs south is retarded, why nap with your neighbour and fly 100 jumps to fight.
It is horrible to fly around all day and only see blue ships. |
Baraccas
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:44:00 -
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north vs south is retarded, why nap with your neighbour and fly 100 jumps to fight.
It is horrible to fly around all day and only see blue ships. |
Zhon
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:13:00 -
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Hoenestly right now with the way things area War North vs South is rather unrealistic in any mass exodus. As as stated the south is fractured with many alliances fighting. There are not enough willing to travel the long distance to the north to wage war. Even if there were we would crash the server nodes and CCP woudl be replacing more ship due to lag than we could kill. THe concept is fun, but realistically right now not obtainable.
What you will see though is this "i dont want to fly 100 jumps to fight in the north" attitude change. Well boys and girls soon enough this will not be an issue. With jumps clones now ingame and the capital ships being deployed into alliance and fleet battle, 100 jumps wars are no longer going to be an issue. You just set a jump clone to your friendly everyday motehrship and where ever it goes you can go. The new capital ships: carriers, motherships, and titans are going to allow for these huge mobile wars to take place. You will find your self in southern eve one min then in nothern eve the next.
Until the south is more unified and stable, until these lagfest fleet battles are gone, and until the capital ships are of greater quatity the large scale war "North vs. South" just isnt going to happen. Make no mistake one day it will thought ... hehe
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:00:00 -
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North V south sucks tbh, if there was faster ways to travel to the area's then fine it might be fun but until CCP enable someone to capture territory properly IE deploy gate guns and all thats stuff it just wont happen.
As regards what we are doing...We are fighting the lag like everyone else and its winning as normal
" Stay Frosty "
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:02:00 -
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the south needs to finish fighting it out and let the old disuptes finally be settled then the south will be scary to deal with. things like the SA vs Fix thing will never be over till one of the sides dies, since niether side will ever trust the other.
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try 
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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USN CVN72
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:13:00 -
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Ok folks im going to sum up this thread - simple Game sucks big time without targets. who gives a crap who is in what alliance or Merc corp or north or south. Lets all just pvp kill or be killed and try to enjoy the game like it was ment to be!!!
If CCP will fix the LAG Monster than maybe just maybe we can get back to claiming space and trying to break down alliance claimed space. Till then lets just kill or be killed and go after all the carebears npcing or mining or hauling hehehe....
hehe 
USN
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Border201
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Posted - 2006.01.10 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72
Ok folks im going to sum up this thread - simple Game sucks big time without targets. who gives a crap who is in what alliance or Merc corp or north or south. Lets all just pvp kill or be killed and try to enjoy the game like it was ment to be!!!
If CCP will fix the LAG Monster than maybe just maybe we can get back to claiming space and trying to break down alliance claimed space. Till then lets just kill or be killed and go after all the carebears npcing or mining or hauling hehehe....
hehe
USN
I say AMEN to that minus the whole going after carebears thing. Thats kinda the mark of the beast 
Originally by: corporal hicks
Internet: where men are men, women are men and kids are cops
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.01.11 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Edited by: thoth foc on 10/01/2006 17:59:47
Originally by: BOOFER
By George I think hes got it 
no tbh.. i'm getting more lost each post
not very hard for u to get lost tbh. :P
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:51:00 -
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Agree with Zhon. Once the lag is removed, and maybe some simple tweaks to the jump clone factor combining with motherships, and a determind alliance can wage war across the north v south border.
But yes its a lot of effort, which most alliances prob wont want to concern themselves with.
In meantime it will take those with force and stability to unite those without, if they see the benefits of it. While those with individual disputes can wage their wars against each other, closer to home than north/south wars.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:13:00 -
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The main reason the North seems so unified is to self interest. We have enemies in common. Virtually every Northern alliance dislikes .5, ASCN and Bob. Xelas alliance was kicked out of the north for being too friendly with Bob.
This all predates the SA/SE civil war caused Boofer believes all the bad blood. Trust me while the Stain civil war made all the forum posts no one up here was quaking in their booties worrying about stain coming north. Boofer being an integral part of Stain for so long sees things from his perspective.
I think the south has problems because of boredom. There weren't any big wars going on down south so you guys started shooting each other instead. Up here we skirmish with .5 every day. Bob is in Syndicate, Outer Ring and Pure Blind. The Northern Alliances have external threats in our face every day. And there'll be some level of cooperation amongst all the powers of the north I think until these threats fade. Anyway my two cents. And I didn't even call ASCN traitors once! I'm so proud of myself. 
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
The main reason the North seems so unified is to self interest. We have enemies in common. Virtually every Northern alliance dislikes .5, ASCN and Bob. Xelas alliance was kicked out of the north for being too friendly with Bob.
This all predates the SA/SE civil war caused Boofer believes all the bad blood. Trust me while the Stain civil war made all the forum posts no one up here was quaking in their booties worrying about stain coming north. Boofer being an integral part of Stain for so long sees things from his perspective.
I think the south has problems because of boredom. There weren't any big wars going on down south so you guys started shooting each other instead. Up here we skirmish with .5 every day. Bob is in Syndicate, Outer Ring and Pure Blind. The Northern Alliances have external threats in our face every day. And there'll be some level of cooperation amongst all the powers of the north I think until these threats fade. Anyway my two cents. And I didn't even call ASCN traitors once! I'm so proud of myself.
I agree in part. The North most definatly has unified due to common enemies. The bad blood I meantioned however... I was refering to the current situation in the South and not Im afraid the stabilisation of the North. I have to agree that my main focus has always been toward the Stain/FIX/ASCN areas as that is my old stomping ground. As for the North Vs South thing I agree it is a pain in the arse to go all that way but the way it is going its coming to the Souths doorstep as we speak so wheter wanted or no that war is ongoing.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
Do belive we have players npc hunting in Q. Orc A. And they do stay online.
U also prolly noticed that we havent come down to either h74 or 9cg or Fat to help fix. As they deal with u guys perfectly by them self.
And when we have killed some off u dear pilots in a2- or 3-f its becouse catch "hed - u-q" is totaly empty. And u have been not to far away. For us to l00t u.
Since we left fix, we have never botherd teaming up with annyone exept ourself. Tho i belive we had fix in same system a couple times. =). Also that during G-Iron and co where shooting u. We still shoot them as much.
We cant careless about u and what big thingys u guys got going on the alliance part. We respect our blue, fix and bob. The rest we shoot. Or get shoot by.
So if we are helping fix now becouse we doing someting we been doing for a couple times sure thingy if u want to think so.
And hey, FIX ftw.=)
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http://triad.eve-killboard.net/ <- Asuyas kills since 2005-08 =)
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:25:00 -
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Lets please not turn that into another SA/Fix/friends thread.
@ Boofer -
Much has changed while you were gone.
After the SA/SE split, some chose to keep the bad blood bad, and some had the honour of regaining lost friends, and some had the delight to find thier way back home.
Naturally, some chose to stay in league with the enemies, which is no suprise to me, as those specific ones are the ones who always had a covert selfish goal.
My 2 cents.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mindlles on 11/01/2006 07:31:37
AAa learn not to flame,,,
Hf everybody =)
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:31:00 -
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I firmly believe it's because the South has had an average age increase across the board (please, North entitites don't regard this as a smack that you guys are all children, it's not.. so hear me out).
Basically the South has been going flat out since Eve started. In the passing years, its not just Eve that has grown older, it's the player base as well. Alot of our members are "old school" players that are now finishing uni, starting families, other adult-type-growing-up-experiences.
What this means is that none of us can be arsed to spend hours in game travelling to the North because any second now, the wife will storm in and have a shouting match about "that bloody game".
So the simple solution to satisfy the thirsty blood hungry masses? Shoot thy neighbour!
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
Lets please not turn that into another SA/Fix/friends thread.
If you didn't want another FIX/SA thread mr orc a super stain diplomat, then why bring up
Originally by: Orc A
Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
earlier on in the post?
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EL Scorpio
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:51:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Orc A
Lol.
next your gonna say you dont NPC in querious either.
Lol.
So let me get this straight:
Any corporation that NPC's in the regions that stain Alliance claim and / or control that shoot at BoB should be considered representatives of the Stain Alliance and we should react to that accordingly?
No?
Didn't think so.
if stain alliance was sanshas nation and could ctrl who docks and who doesnt, yes.
but then again that isnt the case. stain region is npc region, much like curse, fountain, and part of delve.
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