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wowyouareacow Unrelenting Wanderers 9	Posted - 2013.09.13 07:58:00 - [1] - Quote They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request.
John Holt Praetorian Cohort 14	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:02:00 - [2] - Quote Sounds like the case some had against the Drake. Now what is it? Useless.
Buhhdust Princess Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 7099	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:05:00 - [3] - Quote Falcon being useless, I can live with that.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 818	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:09:00 - [4] - Quote Sensor Dampers have a longer range than ECM There is no problem [edit] fyi your statement applies equally to all force multipliers in the game Recons, Logistics & Command ships, Interdictors see how crap your suggesting eve become now.
Jack Morrison Sinister Spinster Triple Penetration Empire 50	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:12:00 - [5] - Quote Your stuff, now!
Celeste Taylor Ruby Dynasty 181	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:18:00 - [6] - Quote ...but I love his mohawk and sleeves. Okay the joke is made whenever this topic comes up, which is quite often. Personally I love force recon ships.
Cavalira Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:41:00 - [7] - Quote Falcons and other ewar is well balanced. What's YOUR problem?
Samillian Angry Mustellid 281	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:46:00 - [8] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. If it were to happen what is your next scapegoat? While Falcons can affect the outcome of fights I see more run and/or die before they can. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Troll Bridgington Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 40	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:48:00 - [9] - Quote Small gang PVP is dying BECAUSE OF FALCON!
Cavalira Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation 166	Posted - 2013.09.13 08:51:00 - [10] - Quote Troll Bridgington wrote: Small gang PVP is dying BECAUSE OF FALCON! Our mentality is killing small gang/solo PVP.
Amarant'h Fistful of Finns Game Over. 10	Posted - 2013.09.13 09:05:00 - [11] - Quote "Plz remove everythinks that make my sucky gaming suck even moar"

CCP Falcon 4017	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:31:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á Live Events Organizer @CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents

Crimson Gauntlet Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:32:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: It's ok, we love you and your namesake T2 cruiser.
calaretu Honestly We didnt know 10	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:37:00 - [14] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. Want to borrow my falcon to counter-falcon the falcon?
Alavaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 32	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:41:00 - [15] - Quote John Holt wrote: Sounds like the case some had against the Drake. Now what is it? Useless. Buhhdust Princess wrote: Falcon being useless, I can live with that. Titans? Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. My main is out of sub ... ~~NO, STOP BEING POOR~~ I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications"
Alavaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 32	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:41:00 - [16] - Quote calaretu wrote: wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. Want to borrow my falcon to counter-falcon the falcon? Make sure you get some collateral, because they might lose it, they being rather easy to kill if the person knows what they are doing. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. My main is out of sub ... ~~NO, STOP BEING POOR~~ I can't talk about my main due to TOS "clarifications"
Crimson Gauntlet Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:42:00 - [17] - Quote Alavaria wrote: calaretu wrote: wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. Want to borrow my falcon to counter-falcon the falcon? Make sure you get some collateral, because they might lose it, they being rather easy to kill if the person knows what they are doing. The problem is the size of that "if". That being, it's huge. Number of times my posts have come in after the dev/mod locked the thread:-á 1
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1498	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:44:00 - [18] - Quote Next time bring a single Celestis You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
Gealbhan True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 429	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:53:00 - [19] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. If it's not the Falcon today it's something else tomorrow. Adapt or quit as the saying goes.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16459	Posted - 2013.09.13 10:58:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: He said falcons. We can have one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 400	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:01:00 - [21] - Quote Kitty Bear wrote: Sensor Dampers have a longer range than ECM There is no problem [edit] fyi your statement applies equally to all force multipliers in the game Recons, Logistics & Command ships, Interdictors see how crap your suggesting eve become now. If you're sensor damped you have a counter. If you're falconed you're screwed.
Seraph Essael Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 92	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:03:00 - [22] - Quote Someone buthurt because someone was flying something that made him lose a ship? Naaaaaaaaaw Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
psycho freak Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire 264	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:03:00 - [23] - Quote please remove whineing f4gs from game my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k nop cant find it
Terrorfrodo Renegade Hobbits for Mordor 579	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:07:00 - [24] - Quote Falcons were already nerfed hard by adding the sensor comp skills and buffing the sensor strength of so many ships, like the new HACs. And yet people still whine about them .
Icarus Able Traverse Holdings 88	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:08:00 - [25] - Quote Mayybe just put the ECM bonus on the falcon lower. Blackbirds arent half as bad.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 835	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:41:00 - [26] - Quote Tippia wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: He said falcons. We can have one. Liked for the old guard Simpsons reference. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Tyrton Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns 46	Posted - 2013.09.13 11:59:00 - [27] - Quote Tippia wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: He said falcons. We can have one. ok i am keeping mine the rest of you pony up.
Tyrton Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns 46	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:01:00 - [28] - Quote PS: no one has hate on for rook ..... so i will keep those as well
Gun Dulf 13	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:15:00 - [29] - Quote Terrorfrodo wrote: Falcons were already nerfed hard by adding the sensor comp skills and buffing the sensor strength of so many ships, like the new HACs. lmao zitti kitillabi billabi billabi zikko di zakkobam fisch kitti bisch
Dring Dingle Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 63	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:21:00 - [30] - Quote Lets just take a look at the jammy hullls... shall we? Tengu... ~ 66 days + death = skill loss 12.5% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level. and 10% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level Scorpion... Considerably easy to train into... ~ 4 - 5 days 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength Falcon... longer to train into... ~ 67 - 70 days 30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level Widow... MUCH MUCH longer to train into... 137 - 140 days 30% bonus to ECM target jammer strength HRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HERE IN LIES THE ISSUE. YES... im just talking about just sitting in it... but it is still a comparable level to work off. WIDOW should be the highest, at 30%... well because 30% is well and truly enough... and ship classes should be scaled backwards from there. Fix.... Falcon 15-20% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level. mr tengue.... . well he already is tanky enough and is supposed to be a jack of all trades and master of none. so he can probably stay. That is all. o7 Dringy.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16461	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:24:00 - [31] - Quote Dring Dingle wrote: WIDOW should be the highest, at 30%... well because 30% is well and truly enough... and ship classes should be scaled backwards from there. Ok. But then, of course, the Widow would have to lose its cruise and torp bonuses, its cloaking ability, its jump and bridging ability, and no longer be classified as a battleshipGÇª GÇªor maybe it's not actually a case of the kind of linear progression you think it is. Maybe the Falcon is supposed to be at the top at the jamming game because that's its entire purpose? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 2775	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:30:00 - [32] - Quote The thread is an example of the fact that no amount of nerfing is good enough to some people unless the thing nerfed becomes less than useless. CCP already fixed the Falcon to be less overwhelming than it was, before they did the game was literally Falcons Online lol. I don't know which gets more crying from small gang pvp types, Falcons or Logistics. It's like they haven't learned that you can gasp bring your own falcons and or logistics.
Dring Dingle Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 63	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:45:00 - [33] - Quote Tippia wrote: Dring Dingle wrote: WIDOW should be the highest, at 30%... well because 30% is well and truly enough... and ship classes should be scaled backwards from there. Ok. But then, of course, the Widow would have to lose its cruise and torp bonuses, its cloaking ability, its jump and bridging ability, and no longer be classified as a battleshipGÇª GÇªor maybe it's not actually a case of the kind of linear progression you think it is. Maybe the Falcon is supposed to be at the top at the jamming game because that's its entire purpose? While i am only referencing the "jamming skills" in my last post ..... and you are saying that the widow should loose its other ability's if it were to be king....... Lets not forget all of the falcon's other traits... clears throat Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Bonus to Medium Hybrid Damage Per Level 10% Bonus to ECM Target Jammer capacitor use per level Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level and 20% reduction in CPU need for cloaking devices per level. Role Bonus: 80% reduction in liquid ozone consumption for cynosural field generation and 50% reduction in cynosural field duration. So arguably mr falcon isnt necessarily the final stage of progression either... I am just comparing the level of skill investment and, well... (left this out earlyier) the price tag of black ops. - theres a reason widow's / all blops for that matter are the No.1 bridgers. but lets not get too far off topic. and btw - It is damn near impossible to fit a tank. torps/ crusie, ewar , damage mods, AND a bridging module on a widow. just like its very had to get the falcon to use all its skill buffs. So lets not get into a fitting arguement over (secondary) traits I just dont believe the investment in skill training (and isk) of a falcon pilot should be any less than that of a widow for the same buff, on a clearly very powerful function... o7
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16461	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:51:00 - [34] - Quote Dring Dingle wrote: While i am only referencing the "jamming skills" in my last post ..... and you are saying that the widow should loose its other ability's if it were to be king....... Actually, I'm saying one ship having a longer training time has no relation to its having a higher bonus in some particular area GÇö especially not when that area isn't even its main purpose. Quote: So arguably mr falcon isnt necessarily the final stage of progression either. Except that it is. All recons are. Quote: I just dont believe the investment in skill training (and isk) of a falcon pilot should be any less than that of a widow for the same buff, on a clearly very powerful function. Of course it should. It's a completely different ship with a completely different purpose, and the ISK isn't even a factor to begin with. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Dring Dingle Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 63	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:54:00 - [35] - Quote Quote: I just dont believe the investment in skill training (and isk) of a falcon pilot should be any less than that of a widow for the same buff, on a clearly very powerful function. Of course it should. It's a completely different ship with a completely different purpose, and the ISK isn't even a factor to begin with.[/quote] .... LOL.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16461	Posted - 2013.09.13 12:55:00 - [36] - Quote Dring Dingle wrote: .... LOL. Welcome to EVE, where bigger isn't better GÇö only bigger. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 1455	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:28:00 - [37] - Quote you lot forgot the rook, and griffin and the kitsune the rook and the kitsune should prolly be better than the falcon :S
Oswald Bolke Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 2	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:41:00 - [38] - Quote I think somebody is forgetting that no matter what you fly, somebody somewhere will have that one ship that will ruin your day. hows about, if you see a falcon get out
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 2721	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:42:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Your name sake is the reason Scope is rising to success. -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1514	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:00:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Allow me to translate CCP Falcon's response: "We've decided to remove all ships that have any effect on the outcome of a fight because of incessant crying. Therefore, go forth in your pods and make war!" A ship is only effective or it is not. We see this in attempt after attempt by CCP to rebalance ships. An effective ship is nerfed, another is buffed, and yet we still have ships that are effective and ships that aren't. The only things that really change is which ships are effective and which aren't. The falcon has several counters......several....not singular. If you're unable to meet the falcon on the field then you're doing it wrong. Accept that and do what the rest of us do, turn around and run. Otherwise, if we're flying something that can counter the falcon or we've brought our own, then we fight. This isn't a single player game where you're meant to win all the boss fights. Get over it. Don't ban me, bro!
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet 635	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:03:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Nerf Falcons because of stronk! CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16463	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:15:00 - [42] - Quote Mr Kidd wrote: The falcon has several counters......several....not singular. Pff! You're saying that as if RSD ships had become a new ewar doctrine or as if we had just been given a ship that can trivially deliver 500 DPS of instant drone damage out to 130km while sporting 40+ sensor strengthGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Rovinia Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE 159	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:24:00 - [43] - Quote Falcon was allready nerfed several times (reduced range, introduction of skills for more sensorstrengh, etc.) and continues with the ship rebalancing. Sensorstrengh for ships rises with every balance pass. And compared with other forms of Ewar like dampening and TD, you have at last a chance to resist it. If you have 2+ TD's on you with a turret ship, you will make nearly as much damage like if you get jammed by a falcon. But you still have your weapon icons flashing and some nice sound effects, so most people don't bother that much about it. But at the end of the day, the effect is the same, your ship explodes. Leave the falcon alone, it allready got it's beating. Fit ECCM, adapt your tactics and / or get some friends. Than blow up his expensive Falcon.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 270	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:04:00 - [44] - Quote Remove them? Naaah.... They need remodeling but all is good with them beside the looks. New CQ prototype
Johan March GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 54	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:09:00 - [45] - Quote Falcons should be banned because they impersonate a bird; or CCP Falcon. Or CCP Falcon should be banned because he impersonates a ship, or a bird.
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 529	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:10:00 - [46] - Quote I love Falcons for two reasons, first is because of how many times they've saved me, and secondly for constant threads like this. I suggest you HTFU. Post with your main, like a BOSS!
Deacon Abox Justified Chaos 195	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:22:00 - [47] - Quote John Holt wrote: Sounds like the case some had against the Drake. Now what is it? Useless. No it's not useless. It's just no longer easy mode, so people like you jumped away looking for another easy mode ship. How's that working out for you. I wonder whether there are more Harbingers in service than Drakes even now. Anyway, Falcons suck. But they have been indirectly nerfed. And Logistics need counters such at ECM and Damp boats. Unfortunately Falcons and the rest have to stay. However, can't remember which Deve it was, but he said they are working on a long term change to how ecm operates. Should be interesting. In the meantime train your sensor compensation skills to 5, get the sensor strength implants, have info boosts running, and fit an eccm. Then maybe you'll get jammed only 50% of the time. But really just learn to live with it for now. It's not as bad as it used to be.
ArmyOfMe Teddybears. Nocturnal Legion 166	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:28:00 - [48] - Quote Crimson Gauntlet wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: It's ok, we love you and your namesake T2 cruiser. errrr, no Jaden Adoudel > If I knew where you'd live I'd *** blow your head off
SpoonRECKLESS LOGI R Us 36	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:40:00 - [49] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. WHAT?!?! YOU HAVE ECCM!! CCP then nerfed the falcon range!! THEN THEY GAVE YOU ECCM SKILLS!! Why you no learn to counter falcon its paper thin tank and can't counter small frigs on its butt. You're just bad at pvp if you can't counter a Falcon.I fly the falcon I know your type fits 2 webs instead of eccm knowing they could be ecm on the field.Stop crying about it and try to counter the ship. Blue
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3393	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:41:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Knew that was coming when I saw the thread title.
SpoonRECKLESS LOGI R Us 36	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:47:00 - [51] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: you lot forgot the rook, and griffin and the kitsune the rook and the kitsune should prolly be better than the falcon :S Kitsune is fine I do well in it jamming out stuff just don't go GCC on a gate jamming bad idea. Blue
Isis Dea Combat Cruise Control 43	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:21:00 - [52] - Quote - FoF Missiles. - WCS (because that Falcon won't have a scramble/disruptor and if in small-scale warfare, simply bail... Unless you want to protect your epeen? In which case, please, biomass yourself). - ECCM (there's now skills for additional butter). - ECM Burst (then warp out). - Bring a buddy (clearly the Falcon's not solo either) in a missile boat w/FoFs or a drone boat with a small smart bomb [where he simply burns up to falcon, kick out drones and hits him with the smart bomb. If your drones are set to aggressive, they're automatically light up the falcon, who likely doesn't have a tank]). - Sentry Drones (you'll have to deploy them after Falcon's buddy has jammed you but before ECMs land. If ECMs land, aggressive drones will automatically start firing on the falcon, who again typically doesn't have a tank). Seriously, there are multiple counters. Stop insulting the IQ of EVE Online players and start fitting for a proper fight (one that can likely feature a falcon showing).
BoSau Hotim Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 6965	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:22:00 - [53] - Quote Don't you love the people who post on the forums to get rid of ships that scare the wittle bitty daylights out of them. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken?
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 3521	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:23:00 - [54] - Quote Such new and interesting ideas. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 2777	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:24:00 - [55] - Quote What rational people saw: Isis Dea wrote: - FoF Missiles. - WCS (because that Falcon won't have a scramble/disruptor and if in small-scale warfare, simply bail... Unless you want to protect your epeen? In which case, please, biomass yourself). - ECCM (there's now skills for additional butter). - ECM Burst (then warp out). - Bring a buddy (clearly the Falcon's not solo either) in a missile boat w/FoFs or a drone boat with a small smart bomb [where he simply burns up to falcon, kick out drones and hits him with the smart bomb. If your drones are set to aggressive, they're automatically light up the falcon, who likely doesn't have a tank]). - Sentry Drones (you'll have to deploy them after Falcon's buddy has jammed you but before ECMs land. If ECMs land, aggressive drones will automatically start firing on the falcon, who again typically doesn't have a tank). Seriously, there are multiple counters. Stop insulting the IQ of EVE Online players and start fitting for a proper fight (one that can likely feature a falcon showing). What the complainers saw: Isis Dea wrote: Blah blah Blah BLah blaH EFFORT blah FORETHOUGHT bLah Blah blah
Isis Dea Combat Cruise Control 43	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:30:00 - [56] - Quote I know people complain about drone mechanics but... want to be a ****? Take a Vexor Navy Issue, load up Garde IIs with a shi-boatload of tracking damage mods to drones, park them 20km off the inside of a FW complex. Sit on the entrance with a medium/small smart bomb, as people land, hit it, drones will AUTOMATICALLY go after them if on aggressive. Want to be an uberdick? Fit two WCS to that same Vexor Navy.
Phaade Debitum Naturae 104	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:35:00 - [57] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. I second this motion.
Killian Redbeard Mindhead Cosmic Conditioning SoulWing Alliance 22	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:38:00 - [58] - Quote BoSau Hotim wrote: Don't you love the people who post on the forums to get rid of ships that scare the wittle bitty daylights out of them. Shuttles scare me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR5Q72kT1U
Leigh Akiga State War Academy Caldari State 121	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:43:00 - [59] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. In order to understand what is currently overpowered- one only needs to look at what the 0.0 power blocs run in nullsec. For a good 2 years it was drakefleet. Yeah that tank was amazing along with the damage projection of HM. Currently it is drone-assist doctrines. Dominix, Ishtar, Gila, Slowcats. These ships in themselves are not overpowered but the drone-assist (250 people assisting drones to one guy with a target painter) is overpowered. No one has ever run a Falcon fleet or even had more than a handful in any fleet. They are small gang force multipliers.
Vrenth EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 44	Posted - 2013.09.13 20:08:00 - [60] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: They are extremely overpowered and ruin small gang and solo pvp. Thank you for considering this request. Please point to the place on this model Falcon ship that you couldn't touch, so we can further understand your insecurities.

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