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Freya Selene
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:14:00 -
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As we are gething accused of "exploiting" and "cheating" by our targets i thought know what.... maby reveal a trick i learned recently. 
Yes iam rather new to 0.0 and fleet combat however i addept quickly. 
I allways lagged bigtime when jumping into another system or to another gate that where heavly crouded.
Untill someone told me to close my "poeple and places". 
Not open, Not minimized, but CLOSED. 
Worked like a charm......
ps. posted in here as its mostly corporations/alliance who use big fleets and have massive lag during battle.
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:24:00 -
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Reducing your overview when you jump in helps as well :)
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:34:00 -
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Ctrl-Alt-Shift-T All turret effects off
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-E All other effects off
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:44:00 -
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Turn off your depth buffer 
The one and only
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:45:00 -
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Logs > Settings Uncheck all
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Freya Selene
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:23:00 -
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After watching this vid from a RED member i think i rest my case.....
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/altz2/LagFeast.wmv
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Freya Selene
Untill someone told me to close my "people and places".
Not open, Not minimized, but CLOSED.
u would normally fly around wiht ur people and places open for what reason exactly?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:34:00 -
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Dont all jump into a system at the same time, i.e. not 20-50 at once. Jump in batches of 10, wait 5s then next batch jumps in, and repeat for the rest.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: magickangaroo
u would normally fly around wiht ur people and places open for what reason exactly?
If theres a lot of destination changes being giving, I sometimes like to have it P&P nestled under local MK. But if I'm in fleet battle prep mode, it gets turned off with everything else.
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anister
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Posted - 2006.01.11 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Dont all jump into a system at the same time, i.e. not 20-50 at once. Jump in batches of 10, wait 5s then next batch jumps in, and repeat for the rest.
I like my way
"ok, all amarr ships, jump.....now caldari, wtf i thought i told all thr amarr to jump, what you still doing here?!?!, k, now gallente ships, finally, minmatar..."
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Devorre
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Posted - 2006.01.11 06:34:00 -
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I find the best way to reduce lag is to play Eve from the same building in the U.K were the servers are hosted at....
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silent wings
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Posted - 2006.01.11 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: silent wings on 11/01/2006 06:50:41
posting in the wrong topic 4tw
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Omeega
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Selene
After watching this vid from a RED member i think i rest my case.....
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/altz2/LagFeast.wmv
Can't you still understand that the lag ,even without the ctrl+e/t, shouldn't exist?
CAN'T YOU?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:36:00 -
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I hit jump and then grab the arms of my chair and start praying.
First to God, then Allah and maybe a quick word to Buddah.
Evidently there is no devine intervention and I end up relogging to solve my lag issues.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:50:00 -
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And how all of this redues probability to not CTD half of the gang on hiting jump button, when you are around?
How this will reduec server side lag when you are aprouched ship on stasis web range but activate it, but server say you are 50km away in other direction from the targeted ship?
How you explaing when your gang of 15-20 pilots ( V ) are around n-real <-> jv-u2 pilots getting laged to death, when same pilot is lag free when -LV- moving there gang of 50 pilots?
How all of this that you suggest can help with server side lag?
How can you fight and pick target by name when your overview is minimized?
Just a few question. Can you answer on them Freya?
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Nooey
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Selene
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/altz2/LagFeast.wmv
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Minnow maught
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Posted - 2006.01.11 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Minnow maught on 11/01/2006 08:36:47
Originally by: Terradoct
And how all of this redues probability to not CTD half of the gang on hiting jump button, when you are around?
How this will reduec server side lag when you are aprouched ship on stasis web range but activate it, but server say you are 50km away in other direction from the targeted ship?
How you explaing when your gang of 15-20 pilots ( V ) are around n-real <-> jv-u2 pilots getting laged to death, when same pilot is lag free when -LV- moving there gang of 50 pilots?
How all of this that you suggest can help with server side lag?
How can you fight and pick target by name when your overview is minimized?
Just a few question. Can you answer on them Freya?
In all honesty we don't know what causes your lag and neither are we doing anything that we know of to cause your lag. Freya has offered some tips to help yet you throw it back in his face. All I can say is that we suffer from lag but try to ascertain why it does not affect all our pilots, when we find what causes 1 pilot to lag and not the others then we try to do something about it. The closing of P&P is a good example of this, Freya suffered in a battle in the 74 system and was lagged till he was in a pod and complained about always getting lag when jumping through gates, he was the only one with his P&P open. Now he doesn't have it open and it has reduced his lag.
With regard the Overview ... re-read the comment ... it says close it when jumping ..... not leave it closed !!!
There are a few other things that you can do that help reduce lag but to be honest if you keep throwing it back at us, why should we share this with you? Work out the rest for yourself.
Omeega .... I agree, personally i don't think ctrl-E & T makes a difference to Lag, it does help your local client software in real big battles though but IMO no it does not reduce lag between your client and the servers.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.01.11 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Minnow maught
Edited by: Minnow maught on 11/01/2006 08:36:47
In all honesty we don't know what causes your lag and neither are we doing anything that we know of to cause your lag. Freya has offered some tips to help yet you throw it back in his face. All I can say is that we suffer from lag but try to ascertain why it does not affect all our pilots, when we find what causes 1 pilot to lag and not the others then we try to do something about it. The closing of P&P is a good example of this, Freya suffered in a battle in the 74 system and was lagged till he was in a pod and complained about always getting lag when jumping through gates, he was the only one with his P&P open. Now he doesn't have it open and it has reduced his lag.
With regard the Overview ... re-read the comment ... it says close it when jumping ..... not leave it closed !!!
There are a few other things that you can do that help reduce lag but to be honest if you keep throwing it back at us, why should we share this with you? Work out the rest for yourself.
Omeega .... I agree, personally i don't think ctrl-E & T makes a difference to Lag, it does help your local client software in real big battles though but IMO no it does not reduce lag between your client and the servers.
It not that I throwing it at him/her face. Just pointing that not every lag is clien side, some of them are artifitialy created, some of them are server side in 80% of time, maybe some of your pilots are exploiting them. Yes I don't have facts precicly poiting that this pilot is doing it, even maybe there is no such bug or exploiting thing, but we have expiriance that whenevere there is V gang - there is 100% lag, some time it minimal and game is playble, some times we have that half gang is CTD and warping on your fleet you lagged to death, I'v been CTD many times like that, and there is nothing wrong with my client or OS, or hardware. I can run 3 client on my PC w/o any problem.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Terradoct
It not that I throwing it at him/her face. Just pointing that not every lag is clien side, some of them are artifitialy created, some of them are server side in 80% of time, maybe some of your pilots are exploiting them. Yes I don't have facts precicly poiting that this pilot is doing it, even maybe there is no such bug or exploiting thing, but we have expiriance that whenevere there is V gang - there is 100% lag, some time it minimal and game is playble, some times we have that half gang is CTD and warping on your fleet you lagged to death, I'v been CTD many times like that, and there is nothing wrong with my client or OS, or hardware. I can run 3 client on my PC w/o any problem.
You run 3 clients when in battle?
LOL! That is where your lag comes from then.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cardassius
Originally by: Terradoct
It not that I throwing it at him/her face. Just pointing that not every lag is clien side, some of them are artifitialy created, some of them are server side in 80% of time, maybe some of your pilots are exploiting them. Yes I don't have facts precicly poiting that this pilot is doing it, even maybe there is no such bug or exploiting thing, but we have expiriance that whenevere there is V gang - there is 100% lag, some time it minimal and game is playble, some times we have that half gang is CTD and warping on your fleet you lagged to death, I'v been CTD many times like that, and there is nothing wrong with my client or OS, or hardware. I can run 3 client on my PC w/o any problem.
You run 3 clients when in battle?
LOL! That is where your lag comes from then.
I said that I can run 3 client's , but I do not have so many accounts. So it's all rounded to 1 client on 1 mashine
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:19:00 -
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Switch all chat channels to "blink off" and close ones that are not essential.
Also play in full screen rather than windows mode.
Not sure if these help but I have been told that they do.
I sitll like the idea someone posted elsewhere of ccp enabling you to be able to switch all textures off in the same way you can effects - sure the game would look **** whilst they were off but i would rather have that than wind up in a cloning bay due to lag. 
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.01.11 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Selene
After watching this vid from a RED member i think i rest my case.....
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/altz2/LagFeast.wmv
Can anyone explain to me why you would want to have drones on overview in a fleet battle?
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putukas
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Posted - 2006.01.11 11:42:00 -
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oh well
first thing you should do is turn of your goddamn sound effects. It was pain to watch that lagfest video.
second thing you do is READ and LEARN from this topic
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=110129
third thing always use FULLSCREEN view when you are in fleetbattle. Close all programms in task wich use your network and/or memory/cpu etc etc etc. there is alot tweaks u can make to improve your eve performance.
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Faruda
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:07:00 -
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Das ist fantastish!
Veritas Immortalis are speaking about lag reducing! Jackal speaking about vegetarianism.
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Faruda
Das ist fantastish!
Veritas Immortalis are speaking about lag reducing! Jackal speaking about vegetarianism.
uhhhm your loss?
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:16:00 -
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- Turn of all effects/sounds
- Close overview until space i loaded (yeah, i know i know IF loading at all)
- Turn of "blink" for your chat windows and minimize (or close those you dont need)
- Shut down ppl&places (I also kinda confused why you want that opened)
- No logging (if you have a fast HDD that wont matter that much)
Now, that will help you get more FPS and hopefully less lag, we all know that.
She problem is that it should not be needed, we all agree on that.
This has been discussed to no end before and never seen any response from the Devs.
They just say they are working on it which I believe they do but cant get it fixed.
However, right now its more than just lag due to 200ppl in the same system, I mean
I can be alone in a system and still get 30 sec's module activation
while my friends are in the system next to it with ZERO lag.
Lag is now not only anoying as hell, its turned Random.
I talked to ppl that hangs around EC-P and the North and they say just jumping
into EC-P is like diving in to a tank of orange goo! (Orange goo in this case
would be what ever substance that makes EVE slow down to a crawl once the system
is actually loaded).
Lets hope the 64-bit upgrade brings more speed!
/LOWA
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:21:00 -
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None of these make any difference at all during the current lag that has hit eve in fleet battles.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Terradoct on 11/01/2006 12:28:57
All thous post are about client side lags, wich are not the case. I'm talking about server side lag, and about possability to artifisialy creat such lag, existe it or not knows only GM's and DEV's.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:32:00 -
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If it was server side lag everyone should have the same right? you are claiming to have MORE lag then your enemies so that can NEVER be server lag.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
None of these make any difference at all during the current lag that has hit eve in fleet battles.
dbp
QFT. Fps are ok.
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