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Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Ardent Rellik Take your RAm chips out. Put RAM chips back in - one at the time. See what happens. ive tried putting them in different sockets too ;p for what its worth :\|
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:26:00 - [32] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/01/2006 23:26:56 Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. 3. Could be motherboard but try 1 and 2 first. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:27:00 - [33] Edited by: Dao 2 on 11/01/2006 23:28:25 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hot (edit for sp ;p) reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\|
Foxstein	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:27:00 - [34] Try booting into the bios and reset to default settings. seen this problem with many dell and ibm machines. should be f10 once in bios
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Foxstein Try booting into the bios and reset to default settings. seen this problem with many dell and ibm machines. should be f10 once in bios i cant go ANYWHERE ;p
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:29:00 - [36] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/01/2006 23:29:50 Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hard reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\| Well, you will need to try my suggestion, else you will get no-where, to be honest. Everything after this, is only IFs. Sorry, cant help you any further until you have tried 1 and 2. I am > 75% certain, I am quite close to solving it. Would want to say 99% but computers... they are more fickle than men. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Foxstein	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:29:00 - [37] does the fan to the power supply work when you turn the power on ??
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:31:00 - [38] sound and grapics went at the same time yeah? Serve up that MB with chips its fried by the sounds of it... Dos your AGP card have a built in fan is it powering up? by the sounds of it you are not sure if it boots into windows at all just no sound and no display...if you know trhe shortut keys to power down and can login to windows with out need a display try that and see it it can get in then power down... But I do think the MB is screwed... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:32:00 - [39] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 11/01/2006 23:29:50 Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hard reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\| Well, you will need to try my suggestion, else you will get no-where, to be honest. Everything after this, is only IFs. Sorry, cant help you any further until you have tried 1 and 2. I am > 75% certain, I am quite close to solving it. Would want to say 99% but computers... they are more fickle than men. 1: no i cant be 100% sure but id figure itd be pretty obvious :\| i know what they normally look like, and they seem all fine ;p 2: well i don't even need to remove my fan to tell u its hot ;p its been on for the better part of the last 30 minutes. (was hoping itd do something magical by itself :\|)
Foxstein	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:32:00 - [40] Edited by: Foxstein on 11/01/2006 23:33:39 boot to onboard video -- maybe
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Dao 2 Edited by: Dao 2 on 11/01/2006 23:28:25 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hot (edit for sp ;p) reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\| Beep beep we have a winner... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Bombcrater	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:32:00 - [42] Since you're getting lights and the drives are powering up the PSU must be putting out 3.3v and 12v okay, so either the 5v supply has failed (which stops the motherboard powering up) or the motherboard is borked. I hope its the PSU, because Rambus motherboards are fairly rare these days. One thing to try - switch the system on with the INSERT key held down. That resets the CMOS to default settings as soon as the motherboard tries to get out of stand-by.
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Foxstein you can try booting to onboard video card. dont have one :\|? came with a nvidia geforce 4
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Foxstein does the fan to the power supply work when you turn the power on ?? yes ;p i tested the power supply already and it work fine :\|
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:35:00 - [45] Originally by: nahtoh sound and grapics went at the same time yeah? Serve up that MB with chips its fried by the sounds of it... Dos your AGP card have a built in fan is it powering up? by the sounds of it you are not sure if it boots into windows at all just no sound and no display...if you know trhe shortut keys to power down and can login to windows with out need a display try that and see it it can get in then power down... But I do think the MB is screwed... the entire thing just made a weird short sound and shutdown in the beginning, so yeah i guess so ;p ive tried my old and peviously working video card (like i said) and it didn;t work either, but yes the video card fan on them both works fine
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Dao 2 1: no i cant be 100% sure but id figure itd be pretty obvious :\| i know what they normally look like, and they seem all fine ;p 2: well i don't even need to remove my fan to tell u its hot ;p its been on for the better part of the last 30 minutes. (was hoping itd do something magical by itself :\|) 1. Bulging capacitors are easy to look. If you know how electrolytic capacitors look like, they are round cylindrical and stout. If they bulged, they look like beer bellies of some men at the top of the capacitors. The top of the capacitors should be flat, not bulge. 2. Are you sure, they arent residual heat? Touch the CPU will give you an ouch, feeling that is is warm, could have come from somewhere else. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:37:00 - [47] Originally by: Bombcrater Since you're getting lights and the drives are powering up the PSU must be putting out 3.3v and 12v okay, so either the 5v supply has failed (which stops the motherboard powering up) or the motherboard is borked. I hope its the PSU, because Rambus motherboards are fairly rare these days. One thing to try - switch the system on with the INSERT key held down. That resets the CMOS to default settings as soon as the motherboard tries to get out of stand-by. well if it helps, if the computer is off but still plugged in the green light on the mobo still stays on >< like i said hardware replacement isn't really an option for the mobo, ram or cpu, i could build myself a whole new computer for almost as much
Foxstein	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:37:00 - [48] what do you have plugged into the back of the pc now ??
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:38:00 - [49] Originally by: Dao 2 Edited by: Dao 2 on 11/01/2006 23:28:25 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hot (edit for sp ;p) reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\| The Mahcine you are using can it fit the PU from your main mahine? of can the main machine step down to the CPU from the other? And just howlong have you been running your machine without a CPU fan just depending on your FX cardsfan and probably a open case? And type of CPU... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:39:00 - [50] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Dao 2 1: no i cant be 100% sure but id figure itd be pretty obvious :\| i know what they normally look like, and they seem all fine ;p 2: well i don't even need to remove my fan to tell u its hot ;p its been on for the better part of the last 30 minutes. (was hoping itd do something magical by itself :\|) 1. Bulging capacitors are easy to look. If you know how electrolytic capacitors look like, they are round cylindrical and stout. If they bulged, they look like beer bellies of some men at the top of the capacitors. The top of the capacitors should be flat, not bulge. 2. Are you sure, they arent residual heat? Touch the CPU will give you an ouch, feeling that is is warm, could have come from somewhere else. 1: yes they look fine (i used to strip down and put together computers for some place im not THAT computer illiterate ;p) 2: but but the thermal paste ;p
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:40:00 - [51] Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Dao 2 Edited by: Dao 2 on 11/01/2006 23:28:25 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hmmmm... From your response, conclusion. 1. Check the capacitors on the motherboard again, are you 100% certain how a bulged capacitor or a leaked one looks like? 2. CPU not working. Suggestion, boot up PC for 15 mins. Unplug and ground everything. Remove fan immediately. Touch the CPU to see if it is hot. If it isnt, it is a dead CPU and your computer wont boot/start-up because of this. i know this wont sound infinitly smart ;p but itll be hot (edit for sp ;p) reglardless :\| only my videocard fan has been working for the past year ;p my chasis fan has a loose bearing or something and my cpu fan packed up a while ago ;p im to lazy tor eplace :\| The Mahcine you are using can it fit the PU from your main mahine? of can the main machine step down to the CPU from the other? And just howlong have you been running your machine without a CPU fan just depending on your FX cardsfan and probably a open case? And type of CPU... cpu fan for over a year probably, and the chasis fan has been long sinced messed up. The fx card fan is workign fine (bfg cause they have good cooling ;p) and def and open case :\|
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:40:00 - [52] Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Dao 2 1: no i cant be 100% sure but id figure itd be pretty obvious :\| i know what they normally look like, and they seem all fine ;p 2: well i don't even need to remove my fan to tell u its hot ;p its been on for the better part of the last 30 minutes. (was hoping itd do something magical by itself :\|) 1. Bulging capacitors are easy to look. If you know how electrolytic capacitors look like, they are round cylindrical and stout. If they bulged, they look like beer bellies of some men at the top of the capacitors. The top of the capacitors should be flat, not bulge. 2. Are you sure, they arent residual heat? Touch the CPU will give you an ouch, feeling that is is warm, could have come from somewhere else. 1: yes they look fine (i used to strip down and put together computers for some place im not THAT computer illiterate ;p) 2: but but the thermal paste ;p 2. But but the thermal paste? Sorry, please elaborate. Unable to comprehend. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:40:00 - [53] Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Bombcrater Since you're getting lights and the drives are powering up the PSU must be putting out 3.3v and 12v okay, so either the 5v supply has failed (which stops the motherboard powering up) or the motherboard is borked. I hope its the PSU, because Rambus motherboards are fairly rare these days. One thing to try - switch the system on with the INSERT key held down. That resets the CMOS to default settings as soon as the motherboard tries to get out of stand-by. well if it helps, if the computer is off but still plugged in the green light on the mobo still stays on >< like i said hardware replacement isn't really an option for the mobo, ram or cpu, i could build myself a whole new computer for almost as much My ISK is on fried CPU or fried Bus... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:41:00 - [54] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 1: yes they look fine (i used to strip down and put together computers for some place im not THAT computer illiterate ;p) 2: but but the thermal paste ;p 2. But but the thermal paste? Sorry, please elaborate. Unable to comprehend. Bye bye artic silver thermal paste probably... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:41:00 - [55] Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Bombcrater Since you're getting lights and the drives are powering up the PSU must be putting out 3.3v and 12v okay, so either the 5v supply has failed (which stops the motherboard powering up) or the motherboard is borked. I hope its the PSU, because Rambus motherboards are fairly rare these days. One thing to try - switch the system on with the INSERT key held down. That resets the CMOS to default settings as soon as the motherboard tries to get out of stand-by. well if it helps, if the computer is off but still plugged in the green light on the mobo still stays on >< like i said hardware replacement isn't really an option for the mobo, ram or cpu, i could build myself a whole new computer for almost as much My ISK is on fried CPU or fried Bus... My ISKs too... ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:41:00 - [56] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Dao 2 1: no i cant be 100% sure but id figure itd be pretty obvious :\| i know what they normally look like, and they seem all fine ;p 2: well i don't even need to remove my fan to tell u its hot ;p its been on for the better part of the last 30 minutes. (was hoping itd do something magical by itself :\|) 1. Bulging capacitors are easy to look. If you know how electrolytic capacitors look like, they are round cylindrical and stout. If they bulged, they look like beer bellies of some men at the top of the capacitors. The top of the capacitors should be flat, not bulge. 2. Are you sure, they arent residual heat? Touch the CPU will give you an ouch, feeling that is is warm, could have come from somewhere else. 1: yes they look fine (i used to strip down and put together computers for some place im not THAT computer illiterate ;p) 2: but but the thermal paste ;p 2. But but the thermal paste? Sorry, please elaborate. Unable to comprehend. pasty white crap that sits between heatsink and the cpu :\| to soak up heat i guess? ;p its white and sticky ;p
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:42:00 - [57] Originally by: Dao 2 pasty white crap that sits between heatsink and the cpu :\| to soak up heat i guess? ;p its white and sticky ;p So, did you actually try to turn on your PC for 15 mins, and then power down, ground, remove fan and touch the CPU? It is hard to say without touching, it is either you get that burning sensation or not. That is all, 20 mins worth of time can save 200 minutes worth of effort. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:42:00 - [58] Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 1: yes they look fine (i used to strip down and put together computers for some place im not THAT computer illiterate ;p) 2: but but the thermal paste ;p 2. But but the thermal paste? Sorry, please elaborate. Unable to comprehend. Bye bye artic silver thermal paste probably... like i said i didnt want to take it off because of that ;p i just know its there from the previous one ><
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:43:00 - [59] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Dao 2 Originally by: Bombcrater Since you're getting lights and the drives are powering up the PSU must be putting out 3.3v and 12v okay, so either the 5v supply has failed (which stops the motherboard powering up) or the motherboard is borked. I hope its the PSU, because Rambus motherboards are fairly rare these days. One thing to try - switch the system on with the INSERT key held down. That resets the CMOS to default settings as soon as the motherboard tries to get out of stand-by. well if it helps, if the computer is off but still plugged in the green light on the mobo still stays on >< like i said hardware replacement isn't really an option for the mobo, ram or cpu, i could build myself a whole new computer for almost as much My ISK is on fried CPU or fried Bus... My ISKs too... crap :( ;p
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.11 23:44:00 - [60] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Dao 2 pasty white crap that sits between heatsink and the cpu :\| to soak up heat i guess? ;p its white and sticky ;p So, did you actually try to turn on your PC for 15 mins, and then power down, ground, remove fan and touch the CPU? It is hard to say without touching, it is either you get that burning sensation or not. That is all, 20 mins worth of time can save 200 minutes worth of effort. but like the man said itll run the paste :(? and if its dead, like i said in the beginning if its a ruined cpu, mobo, or ram replacement is NOT an option ;p so it wont make a difference

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