For the life of me...I can't figure out why anyone gives a s**t.

Maybe you need some "clarifications" as to how bad of a person you are.

It takes a gm to make massively sweeping changes that were always there and catch tons of "bad guys"

You forgot, you're also unemployed living in your parents basement. Most likely a kid too.


Don't forget sociopath.

Hey there's nothing wrong with having a huge fluffy teddybear, and nobody will think less of you for having one in bed.

RIght guys?





Shutup I've had it since I was little and it's comfy.






Kinda creepy to have in bed during sexual relations, though. The eyes, they watch.....

The pro gankers use cloaked ships 10km away. Because you can warp to 10km if you want to.

This thread just proves highsec 'bears won't be satisfied until suicide ganking in empire is literally impossible, as in everyone is safety on with no way to change it. They demanded we were forced into frigate sized ships by the insurance nerf but still that's not enough. Never mind they have mining ships that are all but impossible to gank with a reasonable tank unless you have a gank fleet that'd be better off looking for freighters. They won't cease complaining until their max yield AFK isk printing machine is perfectly safe.

Station trading is a totally different kettle of fish, it's an unforgiving and brutal form of "clean" PvP, and can be hilariously expensive when you get it wrong

This perspective is hilarious.

It's perfectly normal they want that, because they get shot at.

And they keep getting shot at.

And thanks to the bumping, which pushed it into the sports domain,
over time, even *more* people will shoot them !


The only ones who gankers have to blame is themselves.

I mean't significatnly... that's not meaningful change, that's CCP coping with mechanics they think are actually broken

of course, gankers think it's targeted against them, and, of course, the evil whining miners are to blame...

You only die to ganks when you're AFK. Why should you win against people who aren't AFK?

YOU need us? Nah... but CCP needs us, cause industrialists more often then not have more then one account, and money talks...

This statement is what's referred to as 'blaming the victim', and is not only fallacious, it's also a key aspect of sociopathic behavior.

People with mining lasers in highsec are not a threat, nor seeking conflict. Ganking is done for the psychopathic purpose of eliciting emotional torment ('tears') in the victim, or the sociopathic purpose of exploiting highsec mechanics against a defenceless, otherwise beneficial victim for money.

Now look at who keeps providing that information GÇö willingly and in abundance GÇö to their intended targets.

I assume you can back that statement up with data, or are you just demonstrating special pleading for our benefit?


I'm a miner (on my other account) and have been since 2005. Never once have been ganked, never once have I thought gankers choice of game style is "childish". Its just a legitimate as mine, just different.

I think not taking precautions to ensure I donGÇÖt get ganked is childish mind you, whining about it on the forums after doubly so.

You have the cause and effect backwards.

What miners often "self-impose" is solitude. The "victimhood" is thrust onto them from gankers. Ergo, no ganking = much less whining.

And using the phrase "empowering" may be the single most condescending and/or patronizing choice of words, ever.

Hyperbole...share it whenever you can.