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Archibald Thistlewaite III
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:25:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote: 1. in-warp corp-switch. Intending tackler starts out in non-combatant corp but with application accepted to the wardec corp, just not confirmed by the tackler. Opens the corp window to recruiting tab, commences warp to target (could be done while stationary, but I wanted to have no decloak delay GÇô recon GÇô once ongrid with target) and during that warp hit the GÇÿacceptGÇÖ button on the corp recruitment offer. The idea is that when I land I am at war with the target and able to lock / point him instantly. You can only do this once a week per character though.
I believe doing that is classed as an exploit. I think there has to be a session change after joining a corp in order for the 'war target' standing to be shown on the overview and engaging a war target before that will get CCP involved.
Edit: GM post 6 |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:18:00 -
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Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote: I believe doing that is classed as an exploit.
Thanks, that is interesting. Clearly I am going to need to do some more checking on that front. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.19 01:06:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote: I believe doing that is classed as an exploit.
Thanks, that is interesting. Clearly I am going to need to do some more checking on that front.
how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah. "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1233
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Posted - 2013.10.19 02:22:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:14:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours.
wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now?
you know what youre doin "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Zachary Quack
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:17:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin
Don't mind him, he's a merican.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
130
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:05:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin
Perhaps this will help you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigra
For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report. If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space,-áand those people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local,-álight a cyno and try jumping to it.-á-á There is a structural issue with Eve, based on accounts with no link, vast reserves of ISK-áand plex, which makes it too easy to metagame the destruction of small alliances. |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:01:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin Perhaps this will help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigraThis part is most relevent "The substantia nigra is an important player in brain function, in particular, in eye movement, motor planning, reward-seeking, learning, and addiction." The addiction part may be what the joke was. For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report.
we all took bio in highschool thank you lol
im guessing OP lost his gf to a black man. thats where a good deal of racism comes from
"buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

BobFenner
Black Hole Runners Brainfarts
66
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Posted - 2013.10.21 08:11:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin Perhaps this will help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigraThis part is most relevent "The substantia nigra is an important player in brain function, in particular, in eye movement, motor planning, reward-seeking, learning, and addiction." The addiction part may be what the joke was. For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report. we all took bio in highschool thank you lol im guessing OP lost his gf to a black man. thats where a good deal of racism comes from
You sir have the intellect of a sea sponge. I can only hope that you do not pass on your defective genes to any children...... My missus thinks of EvE as 'the other woman'. :) |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:36:00 -
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BobFenner wrote:
You sir have the intellect of a sea sponge. I can only hope that you do not pass on your defective genes to any children......
I like the cut of your jib. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:46:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
65
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:51:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
are you for reals?
"thank you for wasting my time" has been deemed not a troll post
but "hey man your name is racist, thats messed up" is a troll post?
could you explain that to me? although i dont know why i expected anything else from the "gaming community" "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
203
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Posted - 2013.10.25 08:14:00 -
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Haha, great story (wo-)man, can't wait to read more.
Whoever came up with 'Substantia Nigra IS RACISTS' should do some soul searching, since this person obviously has issues.
That's like saying choclate, coal, oil, the night and panthers are all racist 
D.

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Draugy
Osmosis Inc Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:07:00 -
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I love this to bits. Keep up playing EVE your own way! Don't let anyone discourage you! |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:42:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Haha, great story (wo-)man, can't wait to read more. Whoever came up with 'Substantia Nigra IS RACISTS' should do some soul searching, since this person obviously has issues. That's like saying choclate, coal, oil, the night and panthers are all racist  D. 
i guessing your not from the states? here in america we have alot of up-front, in your face racism. its a little diff than the stuff you guys experience in Europe. Anyway!
that phrase is indeed a medical term and we all, im sure, had a laugh when we saw it in high school bio for the first time but there is a deeper and more serious issue here.
the phrase (and CCP please i am merely trying to educate here, not inflame) "substantial n......" has been used as hate speach here in the states for a long, long time. by choosing that name (albeit a "clever" latinized version) one can only assume that the OP is having a joke. Now would i assume the same if OPs avatar wasnt dark skinned? honestly i dont know and maybe that makes ME the racist but as soon as I saw that name and a dark skinned avatar with it, i immediate thought of this:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19150309&id=kpMWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yCAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5881,6169228
that phrase has historical, and hateful intonations. I wouldn't expect anyone in Iceland to understand that, and quite frankly only the student of American History would probably have ever seen those tobacco ads which used the phrase regularly.
anyway, im done, history lesson over. Ultimately eve is great because we have real villains to fight so if allowing racist names (and i didnt even mention the highly offensive corp name) is something CCP wants to do, well im not upset about that. It adds to the realism. i just thought id call it like i see it.
hope to see you in space! "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.10.26 03:25:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
you're scum, buddy. "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:35:00 -
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Removed a post with offensive content. Please keep it civil. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1306
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:54:00 -
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Wrap-up:
Thanks ppl, for your comments, assistance, and support. My little windmill-tilting wardec vendetta has now drawn to a close GǪ and the raging solo carebear claims moral victory and heads off out to nullsec again.
The hisec wardec stuff was an interesting learning experience for me but was not a whole lot of fun. I managed a few kills, died once, and learned a lot about how those griefers operate. The actual griefers just kept hopping and dropping corps and it became clear pretty quickly that the alliance CEO didnGÇÖt really give a stuff about his people GǪ other than his griefer alts.
It did not take long for the people in the alliance to realise this and their numbers reduced beyond half during the wardec (15SEP up until last week) - http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fearless_Flying_Frogs/stats/2013-08-15:2013-10-25. IGÇÖve spoken with some of their people and the wardec had made it clear to them how bad their alliance was. This galvanised many into leaving, and a couple to applying to the nullsec alliance IGÇÖve been affiliated with for a wee while now.
As was my goal last posting, I did manage to locate and enter their w-system. Before decamping back to Vale I advised them of this fact and left them a little reminder - http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20132739. That discovery should keep me in sporadic entertainment well into the future.
I also have the hisec POS of the main griefer gang. That will also provide some future entertainment.
Take homes: - DonGÇÖt pay ransoms; - You *can* solo hassle an alliance bigtime GǪ even if youGÇÖre a GÇÿsolo raging carebearGÇÖ; - wardec costs are a bit of a pain, but often you can piggy-back onto other peopleGÇÖs decs for free; - Hisec griefers prefer defenceless targets and are agile corp hopper-droppers when someone responds with a little aggro; - ItGÇÖs not terribly difficult to find an enemy w-system if you know how; - The true colours of your alliance GÇÿleadershipGÇÖ show through when you come under a little duress; - You can meet some decent people during wardecs.
TYVM all. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:26:00 -
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Thanks for sharing your story. :) |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:52:00 -
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Just found this,quite amusing. Heres some things that where left out : 1. we where after their highsec research tower,it was around 500million isk worth of value,not one of the better ones at the time,so we offered a "ransom" to not dec them (admittedly we had no intention at the time as it was worth less then the other wars we had.) 2. when substantia declared war,he did not try and fight,his prefered tactic was to sit cloaked in a manticore and afk. 3. he decided to try and show his pvp prowess by going after an indy corp and alliance and targetting their miners. This is how that worked out for him when he targetted a hulk beside an orca http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19719478 4. when he told me to pay or lose my pos,i did exactly what i needed to ensure his 10 alts in bombers couldnt touch,and that was make a D*ckstar. since then,good olg teg mentum and substantia suicide gank miners,piggyback on wardecs and cloak up waiting for that perfect moment and thats about all. As to how our career went? We continued on for about 3 months,teg continually wardeccing then sitting in his cloakies,but that didnt stop us,this wasnt nullsec. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=8&y=2013 http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=9&y=2013 http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=10&y=2013 we lost i believe one maybe two ships (mining barges) to tegs suiciding (it stopped after several failed attempts on a procurer) He however lost a 300million isk manticore when he tried to kill a hulk who used an orca to swap ships.
Teg mentum and substantia had all in all about 10 alts,all cloaky and was quite unhappy he didnt get his ransom from my new D*ckstar,bad enough to give as much chase as he could.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:59:00 -
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yay, they live :-) I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1055
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:33:00 -
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Well we are recruiting, if you want to learn high sec art of warfare. But we are a bit picky on people that at least do not have a history of loosing billions for each million they kill. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:50:00 -
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Lmao, the fact the guy tries to save face as an npc corp member is quite funny.
Good on you mate, especially if you are only learning. Leeroying into a corp of multiple players would be less than smart, afking in their systems and hunting those away from the main school was your best chance at picking some off.
You may have lost an expensive covops, but its hardly a chest beating achievement to kill a covops in a heavy assault cruiser, you just got unlucky to be decloaked. In future in those situations, I would suggest always warping to 10km or so after checking for any roids, cans, corpses etc that may decloak you, if things look bad when you land you have a chance at bouncing out, and you only have to burn 1km to grab point if things look good.
My take aways from reading.
1. Solo player gives something new a go, and has some fun. 2. You lost a ship but learned a lesson in the process. 3. You dissuaded them from their original purpose. 4. You inspired some of the hostile members to change sides. 5. You didn't give in to an extortion attempt from someone without a spine to back it up.
Entertaining read anyway :) |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.10 14:01:00 -
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Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Lmao, the fact the guy tries to save face as an npc corp member is quite funny.
Good on you mate, especially if you are only learning. Leeroying into a corp of multiple players would be less than smart, afking in their systems and hunting those away from the main school was your best chance at picking some off.
You may have lost an expensive covops, but its hardly a chest beating achievement to kill a covops in a heavy assault cruiser, you just got unlucky to be decloaked. In future in those situations, I would suggest always warping to 10km or so after checking for any roids, cans, corpses etc that may decloak you, if things look bad when you land you have a chance at bouncing out, and you only have to burn 1km to grab point if things look good.
My take aways from reading.
1. Solo player gives something new a go, and has some fun. 2. You lost a ship but learned a lesson in the process. 3. You dissuaded them from their original purpose. 4. You inspired some of the hostile members to change sides. 5. You didn't give in to an extortion attempt from someone without a spine to back it up.
Entertaining read anyway :)
1. solo player with 10 alts* fixed that 2. he lost a ship going after a hulk and orca. he warped in cloaked,got close,decloaked to kill a hulk with his no risk cloaky,then got caught. 3. check the links i sent,we continued on and where quite successful,made more then 20billion isk in total from labs,and bpo's from said labs. 4. no members changed sides,one person who was looking for more pvp happened to join a nullsec renting group,who substantia happens to be allied with. 5. he later tried to extort my pos,and failed to do anything. he even went as far as posting my pos location everywhere he could to get backup. And yes im in a npc corp currently,in between what i want to do in eve atm. so why swap through 15corps when i can figure it out then join an appropriate corp? i wouldnt expect you to learn any of the facts (5 i listed just then) also it was a recon ship that caught his manticore trying to be an assault frigate. you keep saying "solo" when in fact he had 10-15 alts in total at his disposal. What we used where oracles,cap stable tower bashing oracles,his pvp efforts where to cloak in t3's and or bombers. the only ships he ever actually went after where miners. I do love people who dont know what they are talking about.
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Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
111
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:46:00 -
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The npc corp thing is no big deal, but as a third party reading this it is amusing that the initial aggressor that started all this is no longer in the corp he was threatening with, while the target goes on unaffected. Your point is fair enough though, clearly extortion isn't your forte and it's reasonable to consider other options.
1. I say "solo" because multiboxing three toons for example is not the same as having three pilots at your disposal. You don't have the advantage of multiple peoples experience, guidance, resources and so much more. If you can't see how 1 guy, even controlling 10 toons is at a natural disadvantage to the same number of individual pilots then that is simply a failure of imagination.
2. Slightly different to his account, but either way, he made a mistake and learned a lesson about people swapping ships from orcas. It was my bad that I read huginn as muninn. (ps, calling it a "no risk cloaky" when it died is a little ironic :p)
3. Yes you achieved some other unrelated things. The purpose to which I referred was your initial attempt to extort him. You failed at that.
4. Again different to his account, what is clear is a significant drop in members at the time. You disagree why, fair enough.
5. He didn't give in to you, that stands. That one man cant take down a pos defended by multiple people is hardly a surprise.
You seem to suggest that him going afk is somehow a bad thing, but against multiple opponents it's a valid tactic to encourage complacency and allow a weaker entity to pick off targets from a larger entity you'd stand no chance fighting straight up. Unless this is a very stealthy nerf afk cloaking thread and I missed it...
I don't know either of you, but his account was entertaining to read and I'm always enthused to see people trying new things. If you wrote a good tale, preferably nothing to do with shooting static pos modules, I'm sure we'd similarly be reading with enthusiasm.
Love you too. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4220
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:54:00 -
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I golfclap you OP. Well done.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:24:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Well we are recruiting, if you want to learn high sec art of warfare. But we are a bit picky on people that at least do not have a history of loosing billions for each million they kill.
'Mentally Assured Destruction' I like the name :-)
I may just give hisec-wardec-corp play a try when I next want a change of pace. I tried hisec ganking for a while last year and was surprised how much I enjoyed it ... lots of planning and coordination for big ganks, and lots of technical game dynamics to be considered. Good for a break but not long-term for me. I would not be surprised if I also enjoyed hisec wardec play ... much as I have had many evil thoughts about such folk in the past.
Fly dangerous MAD doods. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.01.11 06:01:00 -
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Mehashi 'Kho wrote:The npc corp thing is no big deal, but as a third party reading this it is amusing that the initial aggressor that started all this is no longer in the corp he was threatening with, while the target goes on unaffected. Your point is fair enough though, clearly extortion isn't your forte and it's reasonable to consider other options.
1. I say "solo" because multiboxing three toons for example is not the same as having three pilots at your disposal. You don't have the advantage of multiple peoples experience, guidance, resources and so much more. If you can't see how 1 guy, even controlling 10 toons is at a natural disadvantage to the same number of individual pilots then that is simply a failure of imagination. Guess you have never seen IS boxer at work,10 characters doing the same order perfectly can be more powerful then a group if the one person knows how to do what he is doing in the specific thing.
2. Slightly different to his account, but either way, he made a mistake and learned a lesson about people swapping ships from orcas. It was my bad that I read huginn as muninn. (ps, calling it a "no risk cloaky" when it died is a little ironic :p) No risk that he knew of,sitting in a manticore and attacking miners,he was worried about drones only,he got caught out and was quite shocked.
3. Yes you achieved some other unrelated things. The purpose to which I referred was your initial attempt to extort him. You failed at that. Unrelated? lets put it another way,our purpose was taking down Highsec towers that where valuable,we would ransom the towers worth less then the main towers we wanted,so we didn't tip off the main guys,but still had a chance at cash. Case in point was mentioned in OP's 1st post
They'd not wardecced us at all and had even, passed us by and wardecced other small hisec carebear corps with POSes in our systems.
^^^ there you go.
4. Again different to his account, what is clear is a significant drop in members at the time. You disagree why, fair enough.
Agreed,the alliance we had left due to lack of leadership beforehand fell apart when a cloaky group started killing their miners.
5. He didn't give in to you, that stands. That one man cant take down a pos defended by multiple people is hardly a surprise. .
Id say he ended up giving in,he stopped his pursuit,even stopped suicide ganking because he couldn't kill a procurer. he sent a demand to the alliance ceo we where to be booted along with a list of members AND that he would kill my tower,the tower that still stands \o/
All in all it was good fun,made some isk,learnt some things,and we went on to make a nice chunk of isk and even form a community (still part of the intel channel incase i ever get back into it) but highsec tower bashing,just like sov grinding was boring.
Goodluck with all future endeavors and no hard feelings.
Edit,reading the post thought i should mention i did change some of the text in the quote,as it wasn't easily noticeable unless pointed out. |
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