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Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1174
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:10:00 -
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Gather round children. ItGÇÖs time for a bedtime story, a long long bedtime story by the looks ... and possibly one with a few chapters yet to be written. Tonight IGÇÖm going to tell you about the leet hisec wardec corporation and the poor defenceless carebears. This story has a theme that is as old as time itself, and in various forms has been told to my father, his father before him, and his father before him.
Why do I tell you this story now? Sure, it can be a brutal and uncompromising story, but it can also be comically funny and entertaining. I'm telling you at this time because I think youGÇÖre ready for it, because itGÇÖs real and true and happening right now, and because the leet wardec corporation just named their POS in my honour. Yes, admittedly they changed the POS name to GÇÿStupid null bunnyGÇÖ GǪ possibly not intended to be entirely flattering GǪ but they did make that change to recognise the very special nature of our current relationship. I'm also telling you now to seek your thoughts on how to approach this whole curious little issue.
The story begins, as so many do, with us quietly mining in a hisec pocket. Ice and ore in Minmatar Asgeir, a quiet resources system near where we run most of our industry. We have a fleet of fenrir, orca, exhumers and very expensive implanted clones quietly gathering resources while the general hubbub of eve washes on by.
Suddenly, out of the blue, up pops a chat invitation from Anthologee, someone we did not know. So I accept and greet him courteously, as IGÇÖve taught you to always do. Without any preliminaries he advises me that if we do not pay him isk, 200M isk to be precise, his corp (Couster rebels) will wardec us and ruin our enjoyment of eve. I thank him for his kind offer, decline the invitation to pay him isk, and suggest that now would be a convenient time to wardec us. I was not too fussed about the prospects of a war, since we had heaps of time to get the expensive ships to safety and to bolster the defences of our POSes if needed.
A couple of days later it becomes clear that the 'Couster rebels' gang were not terribly honourable people, and were not at all good for their promises. They'd not wardecced us at all and had even, passed us by and wardecced other small hisec carebear corps with POSes in our systems. I was very disappointed at missing the opportunity to learn about hisec warfare from these experts in the field. Thinking, perhaps, that we were not a juicy enough target for them I anchored a few more undefended POS towers around the area and even tried taunting them a little. Still nothing, clearly my one-man hisec carebear corp was beneath their awesomeness.
Then, seeing that they had a couple of wardecs in action - against other hisec bears - I had us join with those defender corps. Within 24-hours 'Couster rebels' was empty except for Anthologee, they had all jumped corp to hisec NPC corps. One of them, Vicious Ascendant, had started another player corp 'Highsec ransoming inc'... with virtually identical specs to 'Couster rebels'. So I ask a few friendly agents some questions and find the original 'Couster rebels' gang scattered across the cosmos, with their main people quietly hiding in a Vorsk station. Figuring we might still be able to obtain those much needed lessons, and that their new corp was intended for them to regroup and recommence their wardec ransom efforts, I place my first-ever wardec - against them. During the few days of this war they engage a Jita ganking corp as allies and even move one of their Jita alts into their one-character corp, perhaps to tempt us way over there. Needless to say Vicious Ascendant has been pretty well permadocked and his 'Highsec ransoming inc' has since been closed down.
At around the same time another of their people, Anthologee, starts up a second, very similar, corp - 'Highsec Ransoming Incorporated [RENSM]'. We did not wardec them, preferring to provide them the opportunity to regroup in relative peace so they can provide us with our lessons at some later time.
Having failed to get any traction on the wardecs we resorted to a little self-education on the art of ganking - import a bundle of catalysts and give it a try. One of their NPC corp evacuees was sticking around Vorsk and mining regularly. That effort has provided some more education for us ... retrievers are easy to solo-gank, procurers and covetors not so. The hisec mining veterans in Vorsk also have lots of nice little tricks to make themselves relatively safe from ganking - altho nothing is safe from a large enough gank-gang. It's been a good learning time - a couple successful ganks, a whisker of structure from a two-for-one gank (barge and hauler with the one gank-catalyst), and one fail-gank (procurer's tank just laughed at my DPS).
By this time we'd identified a collection of their alts and some of the hisec alliances they were hiding in. So I decide to wardec one of those alliances - Fearless Flying Frogs [FRO.G]. I'd formed myself a new little corp for that purpose - appropriately named 'Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears [FAYL]'. A one-person deccing a medium-sized alliance is a bit of pushing-it-uphill, but 'why not?' I figured, we have little to lose. I knew where they were based, I had found a number of their POSes (their corp as well as other alliance corps), so I figured it'd provide a little more hisec combat education if nothing else.
.... I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1174
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:11:00 -
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...
Within minutes I have the FRO.G alliance CEO asking me why we'd decced them. He seemed a decent enough fellow, so I explain, honestly, that I'm actually still seeking the warfare lessons promised by a small group within his alliance and have no real beef with the rest of them ... but that I'm happy to take those lessons from the rest of them if that'd what comes to pass. He asks what would be needed for the decc to 'go away' and I suggest he kick certain corps and characters and refund my wardec fees. Family friends suggested I extract some 'ransom' isk from him but that's of little interest to me, and was the start of this little saga anyways.
So this evening I login and go check some of their alliance POSes as well as their 'Anthologee Of A Phoenix [ANNTH]' Vorsk corp POS, while waiting for the wardec to come into force. Lo and behold, they have renamed their Vorsk tower to 'Stupid null bunny' ... a taunt they had directed at me a few times already in their eve-mails. Not only that but there was a fenrir there anchoring all sorts of additional weaponry and offlining industrial stuff.
So that's about where we stand right now. This story has not yet reached the 'happily ever after' point, but there's been a few lessons for us so far. I'd welcome advice on how we might have better handled the matter, but do remember I am approaching this solo ... me, myself, and I ... so do not have an awful lot of combat resources readily available.
So far:
- I was surprised how readily they all jumped-ship off to the relative safety of NPC corps ... all the while continuing to taunt me for my (accepted) failtard status.
- I will be interested to see if the alliance CEO does dump them from alliance. That would leave me with most of them off hiding in NPC corps and a skeleton crew to run their POS.
- I wonder whether they will pulldown the POS while I sleep. Perhaps I will return to find an offline stick and nothing else. I doubt I have the firepower, even bringing all my people online, to take down a half-decent POS in any reasonable amount of time ... and anyway why would I want to kill a POS named 'Stupid null bunny' after me?
- If I continue the ganking it looks like I'll have to escalate and go to two-catalysts or mebbe talos / brutix, one doesn't seem to have the oomph for anything above the retriever.
So, people more experienced in hisec antics, how is this going to play out? It has been quite the learning experience for me. I wonder whether they will just keep running and hiding in NPC corps and stations until I 'go away'? I guess they probably have to, because a rampaging solo carebear can be a very scary thing. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1174
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:11:00 -
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- I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Night Sword
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
3
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:17:00 -
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too long, cant be bothered to even begin to read |

JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
130
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:38:00 -
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Sounds like they're getting what's coming to them. You've probably deterred them from bothering you, but there's no kill like overkill. QCATS is Recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |

Andracin
Sickology
232
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:40:00 -
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High sec wardec corps are extortion artists, not (usually) pvp pilots. Some Ive seen are nothing more than alts made for the purpose of looking to make a quick bit of isk off nothing tougher than an evemail or a quick convo. Actually fighting and possibly loosing isk is counter productive to their business model. Unlike a merc corp they are not trying or required to kill anything. Its all a bluff and when they are called on it, they do exactly what you saw, disband, re-form, or go into hiding. You can continue to chase them if you want but aside from suicide ganking them you will probably never draw them into a pitched fight. |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1178
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:53:00 -
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JAF Anders wrote:Sounds like they're getting what's coming to them. You've probably deterred them from bothering you, but there's no kill like overkill.
Yes, probably overkill GǪ altho not many kills at all nüè
Andracin wrote:High sec wardec corps are extortion artists, not (usually) pvp pilots. Some Ive seen are nothing more than alts made for the purpose of looking to make a quick bit of isk off nothing tougher than an evemail or a quick convo. Actually fighting and possibly losing isk is counter productive to their business model. Unlike a merc corp they are not trying or required to kill anything. ItGÇÖs all a bluff and when they are called on it, they do exactly what you saw, disband, re-form, or go into hiding. You can continue to chase them if you want but aside from suicide ganking them you will probably never draw them into a pitched fight.
Thanks. ThatGÇÖs certainly in keeping with my observations so far. I wasnGÇÖt really aware that they were primarily extortionists, but thought that either the isk or the war would be equally attractive to them.
I did watch them take down some poorly defended POSes during the other wardec, but never did see them tackle anything able to fight back or counter-hassle them.
IGÇÖm probably not up for much of a pitched fight. Given my numbers IGÇÖm more inclined to trying to pick one or two of them off here and there. IGÇÖm thinking I will continue to play for a wee while longer, itGÇÖs quite the learning experience for me.
I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1406
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Posted - 2013.09.16 07:36:00 -
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High sec faggotry != pvp BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Baron' Soontir Fel
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
24
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:30:00 -
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you want pvp lessons, join a small FW corp for alittle bit. Get some fights in low-sec. |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
465
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:16:00 -
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This...
Garviel Tarrant wrote:High sec faggotry != pvp
These teribads in highsec do what they do explicitly because they can not pvp. OP nice job shitting in their cheerios.
http://thewaysofthemew.blogspot.com
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Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
109
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:12:00 -
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Read "hisec" and quit reading. Hey! You're no zombie! |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1186
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Posted - 2013.09.17 01:14:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:This... Garviel Tarrant wrote:High sec faggotry != pvp These teribads in highsec do what they do explicitly because they can not pvp. OP nice job shitting in their cheerios.
I have no allusions, or illusions, wrt leet PvP and am happy to take whatever comes my way. IGÇÖm bad at eve and especially bad at PvP, but have done a wee bit of both in w-space and nullsec. This little episode is offering me a chance to learn about hisec so IGÇÖm embracing the opportunity GǪ frustrations and all.
Thanks Princess.
Update: Not looking so rosy for me right now. They have ****-starred their POS and removed all internal modules except hardeners. Their alliance is sticking with them GǪ understandable but awkward for me since I was hoping to isolate and continue my efforts against the corp rather than the alliance. Alliance is very spread out though, so I am probably going to be left just hassling this corp. Some of the main guys have hopped back into their player-corp altho the majority are still NPC.
Plan: Gonna stick with it and see if the opportunity presents to pick away at one / some of them. DoesnGÇÖt look terribly likely, but I am patient if nothing else. In the meantime IGÇÖll continue my ganking practice / education and try for other targets as well. Digging-in for the long haul.
I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Fret Thiesant
The Scope Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.09.17 07:36:00 -
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Might I suggest good sir starting a sister corp with those interested in pvp and joining fw's.
I don't know how big your corp is but having dedicated indy pilots backing some people interested in pvp can be the start to a really good corp.
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Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1188
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Posted - 2013.09.17 10:35:00 -
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Fret Thiesant wrote:Might I suggest good sir starting a sister corp with those interested in pvp and joining fw's. I don't know how big your corp is but having dedicated indy pilots backing some people interested in pvp can be the start to a really good corp.
Yeah, thanks. Gave FW a thought a wee while ago, when going thru my latest "What next in eve?" phase. Did some reading around these forums and decided against it. Mebbe one day, but not now.
I can take some heart now with my wardec guys tho. They are going to great pains to send me abusive eve-mails telling me how bad I am (true) and how great they are. I guess it means they love me after all. I feel vindicated.
Thanks also to the folk who've mailed me and not posted here. Doing stuff solo it's nice to get helpful advice and little bits of encouragement ... in between all the 'douchebag' comments in the other eve-mails I'm receiving :-)
I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Cage Man
262
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Posted - 2013.09.17 23:57:00 -
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LOL, I enjoyed this.. The thick plottens... |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
562
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Posted - 2013.09.19 06:53:00 -
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runners win in EVE |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
300
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Posted - 2013.09.19 09:35:00 -
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I actually enjoyed reading this!
I'm no pro eve high sec pvper, but I do advise tracking ALL the members of the enemy corp. Find their mission runners, preferably ones still running missions but about 30 jumps away (someone always trys to mission run in a dec).
Now you know their alternate mission location hop a ship over there with Black frog designed to kill the mission runners boat. Send a jump clone over when targets are offline. When he logs on ensure target is mission running with alt again and go **** him up.
Rinse, repeat.
Oh also, don't forget to shoot a pos with drive by shots just to annoy them with in game messages. |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1215
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:03:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:I actually enjoyed reading this!
Thanks. I wanted to try make it a little, somewhat entertaining story. More fun to write and, hopefully, better on the reader too.
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote: I'm no pro eve high sec pvper, but I do advise tracking ALL the members of the enemy corp.
The corp has pretty well gone to ground, and their alliance is 150+. I have located a couple of other alliance activity centres, long way aways, and have managed a couple blitz miner hits. Supposedly easy kills, altho I did spend a fair biy of time worrying their drones would dice my bomber.
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote: Now you know their alternate mission location hop a ship over there with Black frog designed to kill the mission runners boat. Send a jump clone over when targets are offline. When he logs on ensure target is mission running with alt again and go **** him up.
Thanks. I like this idea. I have no shortage of covops scout scanner alts and some orca / freighter alts ... all out of corp. So it's no major hassle doing this, once I find them. The difficulty so far is finding who their active people are, and I don't know that I want to watchlist all 150+ of them.
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote: Oh also, don't forget to shoot a pos with drive by shots just to annoy them with in game messages.
lol, we used to do this a lot in previous life, but I think I'll give it a miss right now. A bit too worried I'll mess the timing and lose my ship. Mebbe I should have added 'cowardly' into my new corp-name. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1220
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Posted - 2013.09.23 03:30:00 -
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Update: So far I am losing this war, but itGÇÖs kinda fun ... in a humiliating and painful way ... and IGÇÖm learning heaps.
IGÇÖve managed a couple relatively easy solo-miner kills, the main difficulty being getting into system and then ongrid before the miner is somewhere else.
IGÇÖve also managed to be cleverly ambushed and killed, losing an expensively-fit bomber in the process. In that case my scout (by then known to them I suspect) had setup a warp-in onto a hulk and orca. I approached the system via an unlikely route, to avoid scouts if possible, and jumped into the target system. While I was in warp to the target ships the hulk pilot swapped to a huginn, from the orcaGÇÖs hangar, and my warp ended <2km from a jetcan. The huginn had me locked pointed and, damnit, webbed before IGÇÖd aligned for a run-away warpout. I died very soon afterwards. Kudos to the clever bastard, he was well prepared for my solo-bomber effort and executed very nicely. Perhaps IGÇÖd have retained my ship if IGÇÖd used a better researched warpin. Given the choice IGÇÖd not have decloaked a solo bomber ongrid with an angry huginn pilot.
Other than that itGÇÖs been a huge amount of chasing around, all over the cosmos, trying to catch some of them unawares GǪ and trying to find or manufacture new scouts that my enemies have not yet identified. I suppose I could up the ante, and not just use a solo bomber, but itGÇÖs a fun challenge trying to find something I can kill and then execute that kill GǪ against an alert and savvy bunch of opponents.
I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Narcotic Gryffin
Bombin Busch Wookies
1
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:47:00 -
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I came I read I loled |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1506
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:33:00 -
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Stopped after first paragraph. Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life, OP. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Cpt Smasher
Rafzakael Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:10:00 -
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Just curious if they still have that tower up. Is there scram batteries? Could just use a sentry drone boat if you get bored, and want to replace boredom with a more extreme boredom. You know.... Everything extreme is always better.  We are recruiting! PvP in NPC 0.0, and Gallente low sec! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281323 |

Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
0
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Posted - 2013.10.04 13:29:00 -
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This reminds me of Charlie Murphy's Greenpeace "enviroMENTAList" war on miners using jetcans, and a 1-man battle against a corp. That was funny stuff.
Anyway, thanks for writing this up. Those of us with almost-normal attention spans and an 8th-grade reading level enjoyed it. |

Dream Kim
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.10.04 16:59:00 -
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If you want, my main can WarDec you and give you all the lessons you need.
Unfortunately you only have 5 members and in my experience the mouthy ones such as yourself never actually undock to engage.
Probably the activities of the pilots you mentioned had nothing to do with you and was just part of their regular business model.
Leave it to carebear hubris to believe anything they actually do matters and that they're capable of competing in arms with PvPers. |

Substantia Nigra
Dopaminergic Systems
1220
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Posted - 2013.10.08 11:29:00 -
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yes, indeed. Thanks for comments and thoughtful insights.
holidays atm, but hope to resume my failtard windmill tilting when I return. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
84
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:21:00 -
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Night Sword wrote:too long, cant be bothered to even begin to read
Perhaps you missed the part in the title where it said "STORY". |

BobFenner
Black Hole Runners Brainfarts
65
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:16:00 -
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This brought a smile to my face. I think Highsec Wardec Corps are the scum of Eve.
At least Gankers actually bother to fire weapons. 
Thread watched for future entertainment My missus thinks of EvE as 'the other woman'. :) |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
122
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:05:00 -
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I enjoyed it and will keep an eye out for further updates, have fun. If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space,-áand those people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local,-álight a cyno and try jumping to it.-á-á There is a structural issue with Eve, based on accounts with no link, vast reserves of ISK-áand plex, which makes it too easy to metagame the destruction of small alliances. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
14
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:13:00 -
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Subscribed. No matter how many ships you lose, you're winning the war. This war was about you learning, and you are getting that in spades, ships are only isk.
Keep it up, and keep posting updates. |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1231
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:46:00 -
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Katherine Raven wrote: ... you're winning the war. This war was about you learning, and you are getting that in spades, ships are only isk. Keep it up, and keep posting updates.
Thanks, hereGÇÖs an update GǪ
ItGÇÖs been quite an education so far.
Trying to run a solo hisec wardec against a widely dispersed alliance is hard work. Now I understand why, when I was a miner-noob, the griefers who hassled us worked in gangs and tended to camp gates on our main supply routes or station undocks.
The alliance that IGÇÖve been trying to griefer-grief is spread widely across the cosmos: w-space, Vorsk and associated Minmatar hisec, Osmon / Gicodel SoE mission locations, and a bundle of Amarr hisec systems and regions.
For me it has been an exercise in meticulous surveillance, interspersed with mad 24-gate sprints to try for a single easy(ish) kill. ItGÇÖs also been an education in tricks and counter-tricks.
Some of the things so far: - I think they probably know who most of my scout alts are by now. Being solo there are only so many useful alts I can employ, and I donGÇÖt have anyone suitable for biomassing and replacing. - One of their more clever hisec miners moved himself to a humungous system and setup in the belt furthest from any gate. The shortest warp to him was over 50AU, so when I land on his grid he has long-gone. OFC whenever I was in-system he stayed docked. I tried an in-warp corp-switch [1] tackle but made the switch too early (I should have waited until I was decelerating onto grid) and he was still gone when I landed, and now I have to wait another week on that alt. Perhaps a logoffski is my only way to catch him now, but I donGÇÖt think I can spare a character just on the off-chance he will start mining there again. - One of their SoE distribution mission runners has sensibly setup instawarp undock BMs and is using a blockade runner. IGÇÖve been ongrid with him several times but not yet managed to achieve a lock. I know itGÇÖs near impossible to catch a well flown blockade runner, often being on the other side of this coin[2], but itGÇÖs been fun trying GǪ and anyway my presence and persistence must be reducing his standings / LP flow a little. - I did manage to tackle a mission-runner battleship, killed all except one of his drones and tanked his damage, only to run out of cap, lose point, and let him run away nüî Lessons from that one GÇô, torp the drones early with javelins (I was picking them off slowly with a single small autocannon), prolly use EM torps to start with (likely shield resistance hole, despite my bonuses) and take a lot more care with capacitor management (active shield-tanking AB stealth bomber with a cap booster) and watching my range. I got down to half structure, but managed to keep repping my shields up, and got him to half-shields before he ran away. I am counting the fact that he fled as being a moral victory nüè - Yesterday I did catch and kill a hulk, a hauler, and a couple of pods GǪ so far for no further losses. Slim pickings, but better than nothing. - Their numbers have reduced since I decced them, from over 250 to 180 now. OFC this could be natural attrition but, up until the dec, they had been growing steadily. One corp CEO did evemail me and made it clear that their alliance-dropping was due to the hassles of the wardec. Perhaps clutching at straws but IGÇÖll claim another moral victory here.
Plan.
Stick with it for a while longer and see whether I can improve my seek-and-destroy tactics. Keep on trying to locate their wormhole. Try and come up with more tactics and ideas to improve my chances of gaining more kills. Resist the temptation to open more accounts to get more scout alts GÇô CCP would approve but my bank manager would not.
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1. in-warp corp-switch. Intending tackler starts out in non-combatant corp but with application accepted to the wardec corp, just not confirmed by the tackler. Opens the corp window to recruiting tab, commences warp to target (could be done while stationary, but I wanted to have no decloak delay GÇô recon GÇô once ongrid with target) and during that warp hit the GÇÿacceptGÇÖ button on the corp recruitment offer. The idea is that when I land I am at war with the target and able to lock / point him instantly. You can only do this once a week per character though. 2. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77821&find=unread GǪ yes, I do like writing rambling longwinded stories nüè
I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Archibald Thistlewaite III
265
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:25:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote: 1. in-warp corp-switch. Intending tackler starts out in non-combatant corp but with application accepted to the wardec corp, just not confirmed by the tackler. Opens the corp window to recruiting tab, commences warp to target (could be done while stationary, but I wanted to have no decloak delay GÇô recon GÇô once ongrid with target) and during that warp hit the GÇÿacceptGÇÖ button on the corp recruitment offer. The idea is that when I land I am at war with the target and able to lock / point him instantly. You can only do this once a week per character though.
I believe doing that is classed as an exploit. I think there has to be a session change after joining a corp in order for the 'war target' standing to be shown on the overview and engaging a war target before that will get CCP involved.
Edit: GM post 6 |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1232
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:18:00 -
[32] - Quote
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote: I believe doing that is classed as an exploit.
Thanks, that is interesting. Clearly I am going to need to do some more checking on that front. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.19 01:06:00 -
[33] - Quote
Substantia Nigra wrote:Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote: I believe doing that is classed as an exploit.
Thanks, that is interesting. Clearly I am going to need to do some more checking on that front.
how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah. "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Substantia Nigra
Terribad Gay Failtard Carebears
1233
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Posted - 2013.10.19 02:22:00 -
[34] - Quote
Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:14:00 -
[35] - Quote
Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours.
wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now?
you know what youre doin "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Zachary Quack
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:17:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin
Don't mind him, he's a merican.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Pirate Nation.
130
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Posted - 2013.10.19 12:05:00 -
[37] - Quote
Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin
Perhaps this will help you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigra
For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report. If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space,-áand those people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local,-álight a cyno and try jumping to it.-á-á There is a structural issue with Eve, based on accounts with no link, vast reserves of ISK-áand plex, which makes it too easy to metagame the destruction of small alliances. |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:01:00 -
[38] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin Perhaps this will help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigraThis part is most relevent "The substantia nigra is an important player in brain function, in particular, in eye movement, motor planning, reward-seeking, learning, and addiction." The addiction part may be what the joke was. For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report.
we all took bio in highschool thank you lol
im guessing OP lost his gf to a black man. thats where a good deal of racism comes from
"buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

BobFenner
Black Hole Runners Brainfarts
66
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Posted - 2013.10.21 08:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote: how have you not had to change your name yet? racism is not cool brah.
LOL, IMHO it's not nearly as uncool as abject and illiterate ignorance. Also I suspect I am no 'brah' of yours. wtf is illiterate ignorance exactly? did you make it up just now? you know what youre doin Perhaps this will help you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substancia_nigraThis part is most relevent "The substantia nigra is an important player in brain function, in particular, in eye movement, motor planning, reward-seeking, learning, and addiction." The addiction part may be what the joke was. For the OP, I enjoyed the latest report. we all took bio in highschool thank you lol im guessing OP lost his gf to a black man. thats where a good deal of racism comes from
You sir have the intellect of a sea sponge. I can only hope that you do not pass on your defective genes to any children...... My missus thinks of EvE as 'the other woman'. :) |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
20
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:36:00 -
[40] - Quote
BobFenner wrote:
You sir have the intellect of a sea sponge. I can only hope that you do not pass on your defective genes to any children......
I like the cut of your jib. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
487

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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:46:00 -
[41] - Quote
I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
65
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:51:00 -
[42] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
are you for reals?
"thank you for wasting my time" has been deemed not a troll post
but "hey man your name is racist, thats messed up" is a troll post?
could you explain that to me? although i dont know why i expected anything else from the "gaming community" "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
203
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Posted - 2013.10.25 08:14:00 -
[43] - Quote
Haha, great story (wo-)man, can't wait to read more.
Whoever came up with 'Substantia Nigra IS RACISTS' should do some soul searching, since this person obviously has issues.
That's like saying choclate, coal, oil, the night and panthers are all racist 
D.

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Draugy
Osmosis Inc Li3 Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:07:00 -
[44] - Quote
I love this to bits. Keep up playing EVE your own way! Don't let anyone discourage you! |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
73
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:42:00 -
[45] - Quote
Danalee wrote:Haha, great story (wo-)man, can't wait to read more. Whoever came up with 'Substantia Nigra IS RACISTS' should do some soul searching, since this person obviously has issues. That's like saying choclate, coal, oil, the night and panthers are all racist  D. 
i guessing your not from the states? here in america we have alot of up-front, in your face racism. its a little diff than the stuff you guys experience in Europe. Anyway!
that phrase is indeed a medical term and we all, im sure, had a laugh when we saw it in high school bio for the first time but there is a deeper and more serious issue here.
the phrase (and CCP please i am merely trying to educate here, not inflame) "substantial n......" has been used as hate speach here in the states for a long, long time. by choosing that name (albeit a "clever" latinized version) one can only assume that the OP is having a joke. Now would i assume the same if OPs avatar wasnt dark skinned? honestly i dont know and maybe that makes ME the racist but as soon as I saw that name and a dark skinned avatar with it, i immediate thought of this:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19150309&id=kpMWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yCAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5881,6169228
that phrase has historical, and hateful intonations. I wouldn't expect anyone in Iceland to understand that, and quite frankly only the student of American History would probably have ever seen those tobacco ads which used the phrase regularly.
anyway, im done, history lesson over. Ultimately eve is great because we have real villains to fight so if allowing racist names (and i didnt even mention the highly offensive corp name) is something CCP wants to do, well im not upset about that. It adds to the realism. i just thought id call it like i see it.
hope to see you in space! "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |

Ciaphas Cyne
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.10.26 03:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
you're scum, buddy. "buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"
- you |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2469

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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
Removed a post with offensive content. Please keep it civil. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1306
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:54:00 -
[48] - Quote
Wrap-up:
Thanks ppl, for your comments, assistance, and support. My little windmill-tilting wardec vendetta has now drawn to a close GǪ and the raging solo carebear claims moral victory and heads off out to nullsec again.
The hisec wardec stuff was an interesting learning experience for me but was not a whole lot of fun. I managed a few kills, died once, and learned a lot about how those griefers operate. The actual griefers just kept hopping and dropping corps and it became clear pretty quickly that the alliance CEO didnGÇÖt really give a stuff about his people GǪ other than his griefer alts.
It did not take long for the people in the alliance to realise this and their numbers reduced beyond half during the wardec (15SEP up until last week) - http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fearless_Flying_Frogs/stats/2013-08-15:2013-10-25. IGÇÖve spoken with some of their people and the wardec had made it clear to them how bad their alliance was. This galvanised many into leaving, and a couple to applying to the nullsec alliance IGÇÖve been affiliated with for a wee while now.
As was my goal last posting, I did manage to locate and enter their w-system. Before decamping back to Vale I advised them of this fact and left them a little reminder - http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20132739. That discovery should keep me in sporadic entertainment well into the future.
I also have the hisec POS of the main griefer gang. That will also provide some future entertainment.
Take homes: - DonGÇÖt pay ransoms; - You *can* solo hassle an alliance bigtime GǪ even if youGÇÖre a GÇÿsolo raging carebearGÇÖ; - wardec costs are a bit of a pain, but often you can piggy-back onto other peopleGÇÖs decs for free; - Hisec griefers prefer defenceless targets and are agile corp hopper-droppers when someone responds with a little aggro; - ItGÇÖs not terribly difficult to find an enemy w-system if you know how; - The true colours of your alliance GÇÿleadershipGÇÖ show through when you come under a little duress; - You can meet some decent people during wardecs.
TYVM all. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
26
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:26:00 -
[49] - Quote
Thanks for sharing your story. :) |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:52:00 -
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Just found this,quite amusing. Heres some things that where left out : 1. we where after their highsec research tower,it was around 500million isk worth of value,not one of the better ones at the time,so we offered a "ransom" to not dec them (admittedly we had no intention at the time as it was worth less then the other wars we had.) 2. when substantia declared war,he did not try and fight,his prefered tactic was to sit cloaked in a manticore and afk. 3. he decided to try and show his pvp prowess by going after an indy corp and alliance and targetting their miners. This is how that worked out for him when he targetted a hulk beside an orca http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19719478 4. when he told me to pay or lose my pos,i did exactly what i needed to ensure his 10 alts in bombers couldnt touch,and that was make a D*ckstar. since then,good olg teg mentum and substantia suicide gank miners,piggyback on wardecs and cloak up waiting for that perfect moment and thats about all. As to how our career went? We continued on for about 3 months,teg continually wardeccing then sitting in his cloakies,but that didnt stop us,this wasnt nullsec. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=8&y=2013 http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=9&y=2013 http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1624738&m=10&y=2013 we lost i believe one maybe two ships (mining barges) to tegs suiciding (it stopped after several failed attempts on a procurer) He however lost a 300million isk manticore when he tried to kill a hulk who used an orca to swap ships.
Teg mentum and substantia had all in all about 10 alts,all cloaky and was quite unhappy he didnt get his ransom from my new D*ckstar,bad enough to give as much chase as he could.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:59:00 -
[51] - Quote
yay, they live :-) I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1055
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well we are recruiting, if you want to learn high sec art of warfare. But we are a bit picky on people that at least do not have a history of loosing billions for each million they kill. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
111
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Posted - 2014.01.10 10:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lmao, the fact the guy tries to save face as an npc corp member is quite funny.
Good on you mate, especially if you are only learning. Leeroying into a corp of multiple players would be less than smart, afking in their systems and hunting those away from the main school was your best chance at picking some off.
You may have lost an expensive covops, but its hardly a chest beating achievement to kill a covops in a heavy assault cruiser, you just got unlucky to be decloaked. In future in those situations, I would suggest always warping to 10km or so after checking for any roids, cans, corpses etc that may decloak you, if things look bad when you land you have a chance at bouncing out, and you only have to burn 1km to grab point if things look good.
My take aways from reading.
1. Solo player gives something new a go, and has some fun. 2. You lost a ship but learned a lesson in the process. 3. You dissuaded them from their original purpose. 4. You inspired some of the hostile members to change sides. 5. You didn't give in to an extortion attempt from someone without a spine to back it up.
Entertaining read anyway :) |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.10 14:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Lmao, the fact the guy tries to save face as an npc corp member is quite funny.
Good on you mate, especially if you are only learning. Leeroying into a corp of multiple players would be less than smart, afking in their systems and hunting those away from the main school was your best chance at picking some off.
You may have lost an expensive covops, but its hardly a chest beating achievement to kill a covops in a heavy assault cruiser, you just got unlucky to be decloaked. In future in those situations, I would suggest always warping to 10km or so after checking for any roids, cans, corpses etc that may decloak you, if things look bad when you land you have a chance at bouncing out, and you only have to burn 1km to grab point if things look good.
My take aways from reading.
1. Solo player gives something new a go, and has some fun. 2. You lost a ship but learned a lesson in the process. 3. You dissuaded them from their original purpose. 4. You inspired some of the hostile members to change sides. 5. You didn't give in to an extortion attempt from someone without a spine to back it up.
Entertaining read anyway :)
1. solo player with 10 alts* fixed that 2. he lost a ship going after a hulk and orca. he warped in cloaked,got close,decloaked to kill a hulk with his no risk cloaky,then got caught. 3. check the links i sent,we continued on and where quite successful,made more then 20billion isk in total from labs,and bpo's from said labs. 4. no members changed sides,one person who was looking for more pvp happened to join a nullsec renting group,who substantia happens to be allied with. 5. he later tried to extort my pos,and failed to do anything. he even went as far as posting my pos location everywhere he could to get backup. And yes im in a npc corp currently,in between what i want to do in eve atm. so why swap through 15corps when i can figure it out then join an appropriate corp? i wouldnt expect you to learn any of the facts (5 i listed just then) also it was a recon ship that caught his manticore trying to be an assault frigate. you keep saying "solo" when in fact he had 10-15 alts in total at his disposal. What we used where oracles,cap stable tower bashing oracles,his pvp efforts where to cloak in t3's and or bombers. the only ships he ever actually went after where miners. I do love people who dont know what they are talking about.
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Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
111
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:46:00 -
[55] - Quote
The npc corp thing is no big deal, but as a third party reading this it is amusing that the initial aggressor that started all this is no longer in the corp he was threatening with, while the target goes on unaffected. Your point is fair enough though, clearly extortion isn't your forte and it's reasonable to consider other options.
1. I say "solo" because multiboxing three toons for example is not the same as having three pilots at your disposal. You don't have the advantage of multiple peoples experience, guidance, resources and so much more. If you can't see how 1 guy, even controlling 10 toons is at a natural disadvantage to the same number of individual pilots then that is simply a failure of imagination.
2. Slightly different to his account, but either way, he made a mistake and learned a lesson about people swapping ships from orcas. It was my bad that I read huginn as muninn. (ps, calling it a "no risk cloaky" when it died is a little ironic :p)
3. Yes you achieved some other unrelated things. The purpose to which I referred was your initial attempt to extort him. You failed at that.
4. Again different to his account, what is clear is a significant drop in members at the time. You disagree why, fair enough.
5. He didn't give in to you, that stands. That one man cant take down a pos defended by multiple people is hardly a surprise.
You seem to suggest that him going afk is somehow a bad thing, but against multiple opponents it's a valid tactic to encourage complacency and allow a weaker entity to pick off targets from a larger entity you'd stand no chance fighting straight up. Unless this is a very stealthy nerf afk cloaking thread and I missed it...
I don't know either of you, but his account was entertaining to read and I'm always enthused to see people trying new things. If you wrote a good tale, preferably nothing to do with shooting static pos modules, I'm sure we'd similarly be reading with enthusiasm.
Love you too. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4220
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:54:00 -
[56] - Quote
I golfclap you OP. Well done.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:24:00 -
[57] - Quote
Kagura Nikon wrote:Well we are recruiting, if you want to learn high sec art of warfare. But we are a bit picky on people that at least do not have a history of loosing billions for each million they kill.
'Mentally Assured Destruction' I like the name :-)
I may just give hisec-wardec-corp play a try when I next want a change of pace. I tried hisec ganking for a while last year and was surprised how much I enjoyed it ... lots of planning and coordination for big ganks, and lots of technical game dynamics to be considered. Good for a break but not long-term for me. I would not be surprised if I also enjoyed hisec wardec play ... much as I have had many evil thoughts about such folk in the past.
Fly dangerous MAD doods. I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Anthologee
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.01.11 06:01:00 -
[58] - Quote
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:The npc corp thing is no big deal, but as a third party reading this it is amusing that the initial aggressor that started all this is no longer in the corp he was threatening with, while the target goes on unaffected. Your point is fair enough though, clearly extortion isn't your forte and it's reasonable to consider other options.
1. I say "solo" because multiboxing three toons for example is not the same as having three pilots at your disposal. You don't have the advantage of multiple peoples experience, guidance, resources and so much more. If you can't see how 1 guy, even controlling 10 toons is at a natural disadvantage to the same number of individual pilots then that is simply a failure of imagination. Guess you have never seen IS boxer at work,10 characters doing the same order perfectly can be more powerful then a group if the one person knows how to do what he is doing in the specific thing.
2. Slightly different to his account, but either way, he made a mistake and learned a lesson about people swapping ships from orcas. It was my bad that I read huginn as muninn. (ps, calling it a "no risk cloaky" when it died is a little ironic :p) No risk that he knew of,sitting in a manticore and attacking miners,he was worried about drones only,he got caught out and was quite shocked.
3. Yes you achieved some other unrelated things. The purpose to which I referred was your initial attempt to extort him. You failed at that. Unrelated? lets put it another way,our purpose was taking down Highsec towers that where valuable,we would ransom the towers worth less then the main towers we wanted,so we didn't tip off the main guys,but still had a chance at cash. Case in point was mentioned in OP's 1st post
They'd not wardecced us at all and had even, passed us by and wardecced other small hisec carebear corps with POSes in our systems.
^^^ there you go.
4. Again different to his account, what is clear is a significant drop in members at the time. You disagree why, fair enough.
Agreed,the alliance we had left due to lack of leadership beforehand fell apart when a cloaky group started killing their miners.
5. He didn't give in to you, that stands. That one man cant take down a pos defended by multiple people is hardly a surprise. .
Id say he ended up giving in,he stopped his pursuit,even stopped suicide ganking because he couldn't kill a procurer. he sent a demand to the alliance ceo we where to be booted along with a list of members AND that he would kill my tower,the tower that still stands \o/
All in all it was good fun,made some isk,learnt some things,and we went on to make a nice chunk of isk and even form a community (still part of the intel channel incase i ever get back into it) but highsec tower bashing,just like sov grinding was boring.
Goodluck with all future endeavors and no hard feelings.
Edit,reading the post thought i should mention i did change some of the text in the quote,as it wasn't easily noticeable unless pointed out. |
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