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Spawn El'Marr
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Posted - 2003.08.24 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Spawn El'Marr on 24/08/2003 17:48:34
Well, first of all. Logging off at 4am in the morning after you have been playing for 14 hours is not the same as fleeing.
Secondly, the reason we left today was that there were only 6 people online in the whole Venal region, and noone in space, everyone was docked and hiding.
We realised that we would not meet any more resistance at that point and we were just wasting our time in the Venal region. And it's not that far away so we can come back at any time and hunt some more pirate scum.
When a corp allies with Pirates and protect them they are also pirates. If you stand side by side with (your allied) Pirates at a gate and fight with them, you are indeed a pirate yourself, even if you "only defend" your fellow alliance members who are attacking innocent travelers. You can claim that you are the good guys as much as you want, but as long as you protect and help known pirate corps you are not the good guys.
Founder and Joint CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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KIAHairymoony
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:05:00 -
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currently i dnt c why u are attacking us in venal, and i dont know why everybody hates TTI, as soon as miner 2 BP's came out everybody was screaming that TTI got given them but nobody sells them in the venal channel and i have asked many times.
and Spawn El'Marr yes i am in venal with space invaders and yes they are pirates but i am not and never will be a pirate if it pleases u to call me that so be it but i dnt pod people and i dnt steal items, with so much to loose in this game i dnt consider it fair
currently Evo corp is in venal they are scattered around the place and only come out to pod miners and the such there tactics are to sit on local and spam there intelligence or not in homo erectus's case "XX if i offend any nice Evo players" so far the force that invaded venal has been using sensor boosters to purposivly crash players as such nearly everybody has there sound muted so we can play with out being annihilated by cheats
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plur
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: plur on 24/08/2003 18:13:08
Live with pirates, die with pirates TTI.
You work with pirates, fund their organisations, and hire them. All to try keep your hands clean of any dirty business huh?
Even struck deals with m0o, supplied them with ships.
you help, fund, and harbour criminals. You are criminals yourselves.
you made your bed.... 
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Gafton on 24/08/2003 18:25:13
Quick question to you absolute people. Why would you mount an attack so close to the time you would have to log off?
Secondly, you condem the alliance members for allying with pirates, yet you do the same thing and it's ok? Please explain that for me as I dont understand the contridiction.
Edit: I'd still like to see proof that TTI paid a pirate corp to kill someone.
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KIAHairymoony
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:23:00 -
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OK one snippit of info at a time, have u any proof on the acusations?
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crimson Rose on 24/08/2003 18:31:51
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so far the force that invaded venal has been using sensor boosters to purposivly crash players as such nearly everybody has there sound muted so we can play with out being annihilated by cheats
Huh, really. What would make you say that? If that is the case. All this crap about both sides have lost just a couple ships is bogus. Because if they were cheating. Your losses would be more than just a couple of ships. Get your stuff straight.
edit- Or would you like to confess how many ships you have really lost? You probably lost so many ships that you can't believe it. And don't complain about the enemy taking out miners, I mean, don't countries always cut off "supply lines"? I have one word to discrive KIA. MORONS
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KIAHairymoony
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHairymoony on 24/08/2003 18:39:27
as far as i know Va losses are 2 apoc battleships early morning and 3 cruisers 2 moa 1 thorax
this evening we have taken down 1 BS for sure "as i got his guns :) anybody want anode neutron partical cannon 1"
o and i am being told by people that we have killed 4BS and atleast 4 cruisers but that is from word of mouth
and have chased several into hiding throughout the day 
rofl m8 im not hiding how many ships we have lost i have not said anything about "minimal losses" above are numbers i am positive about so stfu thnx XX 
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Daerth Vadaer
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:42:00 -
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Last i checked VA lost almost 20 ships since yesterday including 8-9 Battleships. The attackers lost 2 ships.
Founder and CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 24/08/2003 19:43:58
<i'll let the man do the talking>
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Daerth Vadaer
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:49:00 -
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Yeah right Tehel 
haha
Founder and CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.24 18:53:00 -
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stfu? I don't have to use such language to have a discussion. Evidently the TTI (Venal Alliance) have lost alot more than you are willing to confess. It's ok though. If you learn how to "suck up" , they might let you leave in your pod. Remember. Every thing you say will either do one of two things. Give you credibility or ruin your reputation. You sir, no, you animal, have ruined any reputation that you are a human.
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KIAHairymoony
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHairymoony on 24/08/2003 19:08:14
rofl m8 when u realise that most of what is being said in this forum is absolute rubbish and propaganda then u will realise that this is a game 20 ships pffff, 6 were destroyed 2 of which were battleships and i know that we have given out as much as we have recieved so stop trying to be mr intelligent "u animal" and just play the game. the truth of the matter is that u find security in insulting others through the screan you are sitting behind, others dnt need that pathetic crutch
o and before u try and say that im scum or something like that and my reputation is damaged
know this, i know a person who goes to my college who sounds just like you he is 6 ft lanky about 3 friends is called coleman and spends his time writing virus's for the internal network
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:05:00 -
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Last i checked VA lost almost 20 ships since yesterday including 8-9 Battleships. The attackers lost 2 ships.
ROFL!!!
You need to get a new source of information. Either that or your source needs to lay off the mind altering drugs.
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Daerth Vadaer
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:07:00 -
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VA, i think your Intranet is broken.
Founder and CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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Spanker
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:11:00 -
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Yeah right Tehel
haha
Aw let's be civil and give the guy a brake Helmet, we wouldn't like it much if we were loosing either. If numbers are what he needs to convince himself that the Venal Alliance is NOT a dying breed then let's not take that away from him.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:15:00 -
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(hmm... second time I'm writing this post)
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Yeah right Tehel
haha
Give the guy a brake D, we wouldn't like it if we were the ones loosing either. If numbers are what they need to convince themselves that they are NOT a dying breed then let's not take it away from them. Anyhow I doubt they'll be burping up statistics in a few days
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Spanker
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:18:00 -
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lol.... I obviously have no idea how to post a message
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Klydor
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:25:00 -
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As a neutral party I'd love to know how the battles (or lack thereof) are progressing, however I feel both sides will fill the thread with properganda.
Who should we beleive? I guess we can beleive neither side. Even though one side may be telling the truth we cannot be sure. Unless the same figures are given by both sides.
Perhaps concord should widen their tracking of ships killed to include ships killed by other corps and producing a monthly reports of which corps killed which ships in which region.
At least this data would be accurate.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:27:00 -
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Last thing I noticed was another kill for the VA today, no losses by the VA, and a retreat of the last 3 ships in HQ back to H-PA29.
Right now you are on troubled ground. Your first attack wave failed to do any real damage, you're losing bships, you can't resupply, your lasers are easily countered.
You blew up a few cruisers, you destoryed 2 real battleships, and you jumped CXG battleships while mining and blew them up.
Everytime you've been met in a real battle you have either lost ships while VA has lost none, or retreated before shot where fired.
You destoryed MINING operations, so far all ships that have been destoryed have insurance, I guess the only real loss was the ore can's left in the field, I don't know but, right now your attack is just winding down and falling apart.
For Evolution this must be starting to hurt, back before TTI joined the alliance they came up to Venal Region twice, just to have thier 8 battleships turned away by a handful of cruisers. The only member of evolution that has any sign of a brain is Homo Erectus. Sure he talk to damn much and is quite annoying in local, but he's the only member of Evo that I've seen that can actually fight worth a damn.
So until you invader's grow some and actually do an attack instead of retreating methodically system to system as we jump in, you can have a nice can of Shut the .... up.
Thanks and have a nice day,
-QBall
Pseudo Leader of the Venal Alliance.
Profanity removed. Please keep it civil- Orestes
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-QBall
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Ragnar
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Posted - 2003.08.24 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ragnar on 24/08/2003 19:44:33
Official Statement from TTI.
Since Evolution began the invasion on Friday night, TTI has lost 0 battleships, 2 scout cruisers, 1 industrial, and 1 scout frigate. Our forces were involved in the destruction of 2 Evolution battleships and 3 Evolution cruisers. This can be confirmed by other members of TTI, who, as opposed to members of Evolution, speak the truth. People at TTI do not let me lie for them, as members of Evolution allow their leadership to do for them. (Anyone in TTI that lost a Battleship to Evolution since their assault, please post.)
Some screenshots at http://tti.fragland.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6143
Anyone that wants to sneak into Venal to watch the local chat can see impartially what is going on. Evolution runs around like roaches from the light and rarely engages us. We can't decide if this is a war or a shell game. You'll find it quite easy to warp around Venal and stay in dead space to listen in. Just ask Evolution for tips on how to run around randomly.
More importantly, in addition to Evolution's complete inabilty to do anything substantial, they will now gain the ally of Xanadu who will be joining them. Now maybe we will see some real fighting instead of simple chasing and extermination. It appears that Evolution is nothing without Xanadu, because so far, everyone in the Venal Alliance has yet to be whelmed by Evolution.
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Ragnar Danneskj÷ld
Taggart Transdimensional, Inc.
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.24 20:05:00 -
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Quote:
As a neutral party I'd love to know how the battles (or lack thereof) are progressing, however I feel both sides will fill the thread with properganda.
Who should we beleive? I guess we can beleive neither side. Even though one side may be telling the truth we cannot be sure. Unless the same figures are given by both sides.
Perhaps concord should widen their tracking of ships killed to include ships killed by other corps and producing a monthly reports of which corps killed which ships in which region.
At least this data would be accurate.
Let me inform you that 90% of this thread is utter *comment remove* - Orestes, Modsquad.
But like you say, what can u expect? :)
The only true way to determine who's doing better is to be there and witness it. Or indeed see who is left standing in venal at the end of it all.
-Necro
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.08.24 20:49:00 -
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I'll ask the character Beenthere from TTI to post.
And really, Ragnar my dear, lol. No matter how much red tape you try to inflict on your members, or how much stories you write up, this battle will be fought where it matters, and thats not on the forums.
Keep posting those screenshots if you wish, keep counting ships if you wish, we won't. We all know what we kill or what has been killed, and frankly your numbers of your kills or your losses, is not of any interest.
You still dont have a bite TTI, you can only bark, here, on the forums, so pls, continue with that.
When the smoke clears, ill dump off all the screenshots, corpses, bodycounts, shiplosses and whatever if it is of any interest to anyone.
We play the game where it counts. As for you TTI.. well. gl.
The verdict has fallen.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:04:00 -
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The more and more i read through this and engage evo vessels (which nearly always end up in pieces) i think that evo have bitten off far more than they can chew. Yes you want TTI destroyed, but didnt you guys realise that you would be up agains some damn fine players. why dont you just accept your losses, swallow the bile you keep spitting out and leave Venal before this turns really nasty.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:33:00 -
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Molle, you say you will fight us in game and not on the forums. Well I must say that the most I've seen from Evo yet is on these very forums and certainly not in game.
Oh right, maybe I did see you, I remember a faint yellow blip on the map moving around the border zones, could that have been you?
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:37:00 -
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I've still seen no proof that TTI paid a pirate corp to kill evo.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 24/08/2003 21:47:54
I'd like to address a few matters.
First- TTI does NOT supply ships to members of the VA, nor do we "fund" them. There is a market in Venal, we do place items for sale (as does everyone else) and they are bought (mostly by other VA members). As there is NO market method for "locking out" a certain person or corporation selling to pirates is something I'm sure EVERYONE has done.
Second- we DID NOT EVER supply m0o with ships as someone here claimed (God the stories get more outrageous every day). We had an NAP with them. Period. End of story. If you have any PROOF (which there is none) for your stories please feel free to post it. Flames are just that, flames, you only show how little credibility you have.
Third- Ragnars statement about ship losses was accurate (we did lose a mining battleship this morning I believe and a cruiser early this moring - both alone). Time zone differences obviously are affecting the times people can be online, I don't think anyone is "fleeing" by going to bed, I do think warping two within two jumps of the VA fleet and SITTING THERE FOR TWO HOURS is "avoiding" contact and I guess I just wonder what your doing there taking an asteroid sightseeing tour or something? If you come up then fight - simple request?
Fourth- As far as I know I've yet to see Evolution supply any "proof" for their accusations. SirMolle claims to avoid fourm wars yet he started this ridiculous thread in the first place. I saw someone here post a link to a story about Evolution podkilling newbies so its clear whereas TTI has accidently destroyed a few ships (and paid for them) Evolution feels its their "right" to blow up people and issue no apology or restitution. Who is the "arrogant" one here?
Fifth- Why? This is an easy question, its personal (just me asking not Calladen). I guess I'm wondering why people seem to hate TTI so much. I mean this "pirate ally" thing is just the story of the week. Even back in beta people seemed to rail on us. We haven't run wild like m0o killing people, we dont pod newbies, we dont start wars for no reason, we dont cheat or exploit, so why? I've seen this in other online games and its as pathetic here as it is there. People hate someone who seems to have more then they do. Perhaps we're a little "cocky" because we're big and rich, perhaps the trait of "humility" is one we need to learn a little. Then again hating someone because they're successful is a little dumb. I've seen people accuse us of cheating and exploiting yet I've NEVER seen ONE SINGLE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE that we do this? Why are people lying about this? Is it to much to ask for people to have a little decency and common sense?
Calladen Nimitz
(These are my personal views not those of TTI)
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:51:00 -
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Calladen, i think you actually said something in that post. I don't know what tho.
Please try to keep posts to a maximum of 100 words please as I tend to get bored fast.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2003.08.24 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 24/08/2003 22:10:25
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I've still seen no proof that TTI paid a pirate corp to kill evo.
And just what would constituate proof?
Any logs of anything, would simply be dismised by TTI as being falsified - right?
BIG Lottery
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.24 22:24:00 -
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Molle i agree with you, your absaloutley right. This war will be fought where it matters, as soon as EVOL get the bollox to come and put their money where their mouth is.
The bad thing about this, is i've lost all respect for my opponent, this is a bad thing, one should always respect their opponent, but when they lie, run like dogs and genuinley dis-respect you, are they worth respecting?
Come on EVOL, i urge you, earn my respect again.
(This post represented the individual opinion of me, and not my corp).
-Necro
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.08.24 22:29:00 -
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**Footnote
KIA Pieman, please to be adviced to look at the below URL.
http://web.njit.edu/~mrd6/piemancorpse.JPG
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