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Captain Tightpants
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Posted - 2006.01.13 13:57:00 -
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It's pretty obvious that there's a strong anti-CCP current running through some members, as evidenced by the "OMG you nerfed my ship on purpose!" through to the "OMG you made the font suck on purpose!!" via the "OMG you made downtime lasted an hour and a half longer on purpose!!11" threads.
Now, I'm not a blind devotee of CCP, I just live in the real world enough to realise that no-one's perfect, and I'm sure they must get pretty dispirited sometimes due to the fact that they can't make any changes without people getting narky. As such, I thought it would be a nice gesture to compile a list of things that they can change/fiddle with/nerf/make unicode/eat without causing mass indignation.
This isn't a thread for things you WANT. This is a thread for things that you honestly, really, don't give a hoot about.
So, without further ado; I hereby declare that I will not complain, gripe, whine, cry, yell, moan about or otherwise lament;
-making the Thorax look a little less like a... you know. -the correct use of punctuation. -the fact that to do the HARD parts of the game, you need to have some skills. -the removal of aspects of the game I consider 'unnesscary' such as asteroids, PvPers, the Minmatar and other players. -taking the forums offline between 9-5 so that I can actually get on with some work. -replacing all non-Gallente ships with foam rubber toys. -jumpgate reroutes getting Oursulaert traffic sent into the outer rim. -introducing alien life in the form of a many-tentacled woe.
Who's with me?
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.01.13 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Uther Doull on 13/01/2006 14:01:23 nah, theer are enough fanboys around to cancel out the whiners :P
besides, i think all ccp employees have pretty thick hides by now
anyway, i have plenty of things i would whine about, but eve is still my number one game
Originally by: Captain Tightpants -introducing alien life in the form of a many-tentacled woe.
oh and we need drawn doe-eyed japanese schoolgirls to go with that too
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:05:00 -
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Overall i'm pretty happy with EVE. There are a few balance issues, but every MMO has their red headed stepchild race, empire or character class. In EVE, thats the Minmatar. 
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Sable Schroedinger
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:12:00 -
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I run a NWN server and the sheer level of whining you get from players is what has led me here. Basically it kills your enthusiasm, grinds you down and basically makes you ask yourself on a near minutely basis, "why bother". In the end, it turns into a self fulfilling prophecy: "Players will b**ch, threaten, shout and whine no matter what you do. So you may as well do whatever you like, make the game what you want and ignore them. Cos at least then, someone will be happy. You". I've learnt over the last 3 years of running the damn thing that 90% of players have no sense of perspective or even what it is they really want (other than for them to "win", especially if that means everyone else "loses"). I truely believe that if you gave palyers what the majority of "voices" ask for, you'd have a boring 2 diamentional game you couldn't even pay them to play. So, in short, they can do whatever they like in my book. If they ask for feedback on it, I'll happily give it as constructively as I can. If the game becomes something I no longer enjoy, then I'll move on... and no you can't have my stuff cos I'm a miserable old bugger!  
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lady asg
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:12:00 -
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well i can have all the whine stuff, so they can go to wow and get the same d/t lag stuff, as they think they got a perfect world on their side of the computer. and that nothing can ever go wrong.
PS please update ur wooden computer and can and string dial-up connection. the world would be very greatful |

Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:14:00 -
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CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
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The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
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Oveur

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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
***** Senior Producer EVE Online
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Lady Flashheart
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****
QFT !!!
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****

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Lady Flashheart
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****
I also forgot to add... Who says CCP dont read the forums
:)
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****

I think I stole his reply.
At least I hope that's what he means....  ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |

Captain Tightpants
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Tightpants on 13/01/2006 14:25:37
Originally by: Uther Doull besides, i think all ccp employees have pretty thick hides by now
Because Oveur beats them!
Oveur: Nerf harder, you scum! *snaps whip*
(Really, that profanity filter)
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lady asg
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:26:00 -
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they care in some sort of way, but not alot of it really important to comment on or worthing thing abit it.
people say ccp heart is two size too small. but if people look harder, they might see that their heart grows three sizes larger |

Zuki Ed
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Tightpants
-taking the forums offline between 9-5 so that I can actually get on with some work. -introducing alien life in the form of a many-tentacled woe.
Who's with me?
QFT
I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!! |

James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.01.13 14:56:00 -
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And abort that accursed mobile client RIGHT NOW, becuase if it's ever released I'll get sacked for doing no work. -- We are recruiting
Carriers on sale |

Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild Overall i'm pretty happy with EVE. There are a few balance issues, but every MMO has their red headed stepchild race, empire or character class. In EVE, thats the Minmatar. 
Im not red headed, or anyone's stepchild. Im just an innocent nerfbat victim :(
Thanks muchly to Harlequin D'Earth for my sig :) |

Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:09:00 -
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But I like whining 
Tbh, I'd like to get more HARD things in the game. Lots and lots of more. Succeeding in them is more rewarding then No whining about at least that from me 
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****
***** is blocked now? I mean hack-zor etc...
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Justus Imperius
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
*****
Its true, check a game called Neocron I used to play. Back when people actually played it ( maybe 5000 people played it, now only bout 500 ) Their forums looked alot like eve's does. Non stop *****in etc and asking why their idea isnt in the game because its the best idea ever.
Well look at their forums now. The game has pretty much died but the company is still trying to get customers. They had extreme bad luck with advertisement company choices because they had 0 advertisements in US / UK from what I know of at least.
Anyway now you must be a subscriber to actually READ most of their forum ( something they've added since the fall of the game ) And, yea I went back to see if it was improved at all, all the threads you do see once you goto the main discussion forum are all 'we love you' 'good job' 'how are ya?' type threads. I was disgusted tbh, they had the same bugs + more that I had when I quit over a year and a half ago . The only thing they added was a better gfx engine, some new textures, some very little new content, and just more and more bugs. Not 1 person was complaining about bugs.
There are so many memory leaks in that game its rediculous, and they have been in since the start of the game! Read the patchnotes of theirs if you can, almost every other one says 'Identified new memory leak' or ' Fixed known memory leak'
I asked in their discussion area why no one was complaining and they said it was useless to complain because KK, their developer, knows everything thats wrong and it has known for 2-3 years so oviously. And said they've learned to live with the bugs :P
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JeanLuc Picarde
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:26:00 -
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considering the team actually owns the game instead of being slaves to a corp, im sure the angst at having to read whining is offset by their considerable bling ^^
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 15:42:00 -
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Heh, CCP can get away with doing anything they want to do with the game. It is their game after all, but that doesn't mean they will be able to make EVERYONE happy. For every 5 people made happy, there will be the 1 person who got affected in a negative way from the change. That can't be changed, so theres no way to get rid of whiners without just shutting down the game or banning them 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 13/01/2006 16:13:16
Originally by: Oveur Edited by: Oveur on 13/01/2006 16:10:57
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
h 4 x 0 r
owned by your own filter  
edit: wait, fixed 
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: JeanLuc Picarde considering the team actually owns the game instead of being slaves to a corp, im sure the angst at having to read whining is offset by their considerable bling ^^
I have to say, this is one of the best quotes I've ever seen on the forum 
Originally by: Ginger Magician Mercenary Coalition are one the worst examples of cowardly gank squad lovers that i have seen in my in eve career.Not one of them could hold a candle to me in solo combat
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Edited by: Oveur on 13/01/2006 16:10:57
Originally by: Avon CCP will only really start to worry about things when people don't care enough about Eve to whine anymore.
h 4 x 0 r
Oh, in that case ->  ______________________________________________
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Gantry Koh
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Posted - 2006.01.13 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
I've learnt over the last 3 years of running the damn thing that 90% of players have no sense of perspective or even what it is they really want (other than for them to "win", especially if that means everyone else "loses"). I truely believe that if you gave palyers what the majority of "voices" ask for, you'd have a boring 2 diamentional game you couldn't even pay them to play. quote]
Anyone who played SWG religiously before Nov. 2005 can attest to this
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Soren
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Posted - 2006.01.13 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Soren on 13/01/2006 18:19:32 I guess this thread goes to show then "can" get away with by-passing the forum filters! _______________________________________________
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.01.13 18:37:00 -
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Thing CCP will NOT get away
The STUPID carrier bonus of minmatar, i will buy ticket to iceland and teach em what stupid bonuses can cause
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Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2006.01.13 19:12:00 -
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Is that Oveur bypassing our profanity filter?
tut tut tut

My broken heart leaves my mind in pieces, temptation wins in the end |
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.01.13 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis Thing CCP will NOT get away
The STUPID carrier bonus of minmatar, i will buy ticket to iceland and teach em what stupid bonuses can cause
bring it up at this years fanfest, and when your surrounded by 50 drunk icleandic devs, try not to crap yourself
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JeanLuc Picarde
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Posted - 2006.01.13 19:22:00 -
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roflmao
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