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Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:37:00 -
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Be aware of the following people, they ransomed me and a friend for our ships, we paid the ransom then as we ejected (agreed in the deal to let them have a rookie killmail) "mislocated" the ships held for ransom. Also in the deal it was agreed on we would NOT get podded, only to get killed anyway. Our ships got stolen and I lost a set of implants.
Booster Mord - Dirt Nap Squad [D-N-S] Crassadi Sinq Laison Happiness [HAPEN] Cypir - Member of rules of aquisition [ROA-A]
Well hope someone will check their names and realise THEY WILL SCREW YOU OVER ANYWAY, so don't try a ransom with them.
- Axi |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1475
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:40:00 -
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This belongs in crime and punishment.
Your crime was in believing. Your punishment lay in dying. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
569
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:43:00 -
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Never pay ransom. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:44:00 -
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Sounds to me like you were trying to scam them. They did the right thing. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2622
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:45:00 -
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IB4L.
...on a personal note, I would never honor a ransom. ..so don't pay them.
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Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
21
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:45:00 -
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Never trust a man that doesn't mine |

Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
571
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:46:00 -
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http://digit-8.com/wp-content/images/real-noob.jpg "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:48:00 -
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Yawn making a deal, then not sticking to it is wrong, I'd be okay if they rejected the offer of a ransom OR stuck to it. Doing neither is sad, but just by looking at the replies I got so far this community is what it is. Just hope someone else figures out that they will screw them anyways.
- Axi |

BoSau Hotim
uitraan diversified holdings incorporated
7068
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:48:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Be aware of the following people, they ransomed me and a friend for our ships, we paid the ransom then as we ejected (agreed in the deal to let them have a rookie killmail) "mislocated" the ships held for ransom. Also in the deal it was agreed on we would NOT get podded, only to get killed anyway. Our ships got stolen and I lost a set of implants.
Booster Mord - Dirt Nap Squad [D-N-S] Crassadi Sinq Laison Happiness [HAPEN] Cypir - Member of rules of aquisition [ROA-A]
Well hope someone will check their names and realise THEY WILL SCREW YOU OVER ANYWAY, so don't try a ransom with them.
- Axi
You may be quite shocked at such behavior but this is happening in Eve daily. It's a great way to get isk at very little cost for the ransomers.
welcome to the harsh world of EvE I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1303
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:50:00 -
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Welcome to EVE, please leave your morals and trust in other human beings at the log-in screen. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1477
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:51:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Yawn making a deal, then not sticking to it is wrong, I'd be okay if they rejected the offer of a ransom OR stuck to it. Doing neither is sad, but just by looking at the replies I got so far this community is what it is. Just hope someone else figures out that they will screw them anyways.
- Axi
Maybe next time you'll get better responses by posting in the appropriate forums.
You seem to have expectation issues. You should have that checked out. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
0
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:53:00 -
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Yup a harsh lesson, had faith in humanity, got bitchslapped in the face with reality, too many sad people and then there are people that are actually surprised at homocidal maniacs. But hey it's a game, I learned something new.
- Axi |

Ivan Krividus
Born Crazy
14
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:53:00 -
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Luckily, the one time i was ever in a ransom situation the ransomer let me go. In fact, i had forgot to update my clone and he and a friend had me pointed in a pod. I still get nightmares about that. Anyway, i would offer to pay them 1/3 before they let you go and 2/3 after. If they let you go, just dont pay em the rest. If they were lying about the ransom in the first place, they scammed you out of less, and you can scam them if they let you get away |

BoSau Hotim
uitraan diversified holdings incorporated
7068
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:55:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Yawn making a deal, then not sticking to it is wrong, I'd be okay if they rejected the offer of a ransom OR stuck to it. Doing neither is sad, but just by looking at the replies I got so far this community is what it is. Just hope someone else figures out that they will screw them anyways.
- Axi Making a deal and then not sticking to it in the real world is wrong in most cases. In this game it's just part of EVE because it is just a game. Your going to find many other things in this game that would be considered wrong in the real world, but allowed in Eve. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |

Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
21
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:56:00 -
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Its so sad you need another beer |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 01:57:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Axirillon Grinder wrote:Yawn making a deal, then not sticking to it is wrong, I'd be okay if they rejected the offer of a ransom OR stuck to it. Doing neither is sad, but just by looking at the replies I got so far this community is what it is. Just hope someone else figures out that they will screw them anyways.
- Axi Maybe next time you'll get better responses by posting in the appropriate forums. You seem to have expectation issues. You should have that checked out.
appropriate forums? You kidding right? I don't expect anything to happen because in reality nothing will, what I hope for is for 1 person to read this and realise they this is screw me online rather than anything else, moral is "I will screw the **** outta my fellow players, just because I can" but hey I'm a na+»ve guy, I put trust in my fellow man, shame on me.
- Axi |

Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
473
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:00:00 -
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Those pirates are poo poo heads! This will be dealt with. |

Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
638
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:01:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Be aware of the following people, they ransomed me and a friend for our ships, we paid the ransom then as we ejected (agreed in the deal to let them have a rookie killmail) "mislocated" the ships held for ransom. Also in the deal it was agreed on we would NOT get podded, only to get killed anyway. Our ships got stolen and I lost a set of implants.
Booster Mord - Dirt Nap Squad [D-N-S] Crassadi Sinq Laison Happiness [HAPEN] Cypir - Member of rules of aquisition [ROA-A]
Well hope someone will check their names and realise THEY WILL SCREW YOU OVER ANYWAY, so don't try a ransom with them.
- Axi
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1479
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:15:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:
appropriate forums? You kidding right?
Nope. There's a forum for the kind of whining you're doing. It's called Crime and Punishment.
Quote: but hey I'm a na+»ve guy
Yep. You are. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
0
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:19:00 -
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He he, guess we're at a difference of opinion, "whining" imho would be crying that it was unfair, all I am trying to achieve is to raise some awareness, crime and punishment imho would refer to something against the rules and thus punishable, this doesn't seem like it thus for raising awareness I'd guess general discussion would be the right place.
- Axi |

BoSau Hotim
uitraan diversified holdings incorporated
7068
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:20:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Axirillon Grinder wrote:Yawn making a deal, then not sticking to it is wrong, I'd be okay if they rejected the offer of a ransom OR stuck to it. Doing neither is sad, but just by looking at the replies I got so far this community is what it is. Just hope someone else figures out that they will screw them anyways.
- Axi Maybe next time you'll get better responses by posting in the appropriate forums. You seem to have expectation issues. You should have that checked out. appropriate forums? You kidding right? I don't expect anything to happen because in reality nothing will, what I hope for is for 1 person to read this and realise they this is screw me online rather than anything else, moral is "I will screw the **** outta my fellow players, just because I can" but hey I'm a na+»ve guy, I put trust in my fellow man, shame on me. - Axi
I think your taking this a bit too far. You didn't put your trust in your fellow man. You put your trust in a person who is playing a pvp game. Hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow and be able to look at it for what it really is.
If you log onto Battlefield 3 you would expect to get shot/blown up right? Well if you expect that getting blown up - along with a myriad of other types of attacks - will happen to you in EvE, then you can learn to protect yourself and how to survive and do well in this game. CCP puts new players in a cocoon in the starter systems and they don't reallize what a harsh game this is until they leave the nursery (unless this happened in a starter system in which case it's a whole different story)
I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
480
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:22:00 -
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Tuggboat wrote:Never trust a man that doesn't mine Never trust a man who does, either. CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |

unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:28:00 -
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I am sure it is easier to make list of all pirate who honor ransom. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1479
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:30:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:He he, guess we're at a difference of opinion, "whining" imho would be crying that it was unfair, all I am trying to achieve is to raise some awareness, crime and punishment imho would refer to something against the rules and thus punishable, this doesn't seem like it thus for raising awareness I'd guess general discussion would be the right place.
- Axi
You'd be wrong. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:42:00 -
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as said difference of opinion and yes it's a harsh game, I repeat, just attempting to raise awareness for the random rookie trolling the forums and coming across this so he'll be forewarned and maybe not make the same mistake I made, if it can happen it will happen and putting my faith in my fellow man was not an understatement, experienced enough rip-offs, scams, screw overs on the internet, can live with that, alas real life ain't any better, of course there are exceptions, some people do deserve the trust others put in them, just wish there were more of those, that's all.
- Axi |

Desimus Maximus
Substandard Coalition
22
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:45:00 -
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Just confirming.. you believe EvE pilots may, just may, be dishonest.
This changes everything!
Rule #1: Don't trust anyone in EvE, even if it's your mom. She will screw you out of ISK before your ship can say 'your capacitor is empty'.
Rule #2: EvE is a COLD and CRUEL universe.
Rule # 3: Never, ever..... ever....... trust anyone in EvE. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
373
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:48:00 -
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Crime & Punishment is not for game rule breaks. The Petition system is used for those. Crime & Punishment is for 'In Character' laws being broken, such as failing to honour a ransom. Or corp theft etc.
That is why people are saying to use that forum. |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:48:00 -
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Yup, there's some good rules.
- Axi |

Axirillon Grinder
Axi's Beerpounders
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Posted - 2013.09.19 02:59:00 -
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Would love to see people actually read. It is not about these particular players and more about AWARENESS for new players like myself that they fully realize how harsh this game can be, the situation named is mainly an EXAMPLE of what happens when you are na+»ve about your fellow players in this game and hence I am still convinced that the topic is in the right spot although I might just troll over to that forum to spam the crap out of it about how dishonest these guys are, but nope, it is part of the game, I gambled, I lost, I live on, the fact remains I intend this topic for NEW PLAYERS, so you forum warriors please get off my back that the topic is in the wrong place, it is not intended for you, your opinion is noted and I reject it by my arguments named above. If it bugs you that bad then get a forum mod to move this topic.
- Axi |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
293
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:04:00 -
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Axirillon Grinder wrote:Yup a harsh lesson, had faith in humanity, got bitchslapped in the face with reality, too many sad people and then there are people that are actually surprised at homocidal maniacs. But hey it's a game, I learned something new.
- Axi
No reason to loose faith in humanity. The people who betrayed you were avatars playing a role. IRL those guys are most likely normal decent bros. Its a game. It has rules. Play within those rules is valid. Cops and robbers would be no fun without the robbers. If you are set on demonizing other players in a sandbox game, I think you're going to have a miserable time here. This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice. |
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